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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: What's with the mass hysteria from the Biden voters here [View all]Gothmog
(154,590 posts)81. sanders debating Biden and keeping in the race may help Joe a great deal
sanders not dropping out may help Biden. sanders keeps on losing primaries by large margins nnly strenghten's Joe's position https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/11/no-surprise-bernie-sanders-is-still-all-about-himself-never-party/
Sanderss remaining in the race should serve several salutary purposes for the party and the country. First, seeing him lose overwhelmingly week after week will dispel the notion that the Democratic Party has moved left, or that he is in a dominant position to negotiate with the overwhelming winner. Its not clear why the Biden camp should give Sanders anything.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.
Second, it is good to keep Biden in fighting form, continuing to boost turnout and showing, as he did in Philadelphia, how presidential he is. Biden can pivot to the general election, essentially ignoring Sanders. (His planned speech on the coronavirus is the perfect opportunity to leave Sanders out of the discussion entirely.)....
Whoever is to replace Sanders as the standard-bearer for the left hopefully someone as smart and wonky as Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) will need to learn how to win elections. (Hint: It is not by scaring voters or attaching oneself to the socialist label.) When in office, a new generation of leaders on the left will need to learn the art of deal-making rather than waste years, as Sanders has, rabble-rousing but accomplishing nothing. Unlike Sanders, Warren (or whoever else takes the reins) will not be burdened by a record of reflexively praising dictators nor be driven to attack fellow Democrats.
Sanders will end the race at some point, a diminished figure. In retrospect, his wins in 2016 will be seen more as an anti-Hillary Clinton vote than a pro-Sanders vote. How he behaves at Sundays debate will determine whether he leaves a bad taste in the mouths of Democrats.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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He has no fucking right to hold Biden accountable period. He lost...he needs to get out now.
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#24
"The Democratic party only benefits from a longer primary in my view." - Nope.
TwilightZone
Mar 2020
#3
The Russians and Comey are responsible for Hillary's loss (too many stayed home). Bernie
Meadowoak
Mar 2020
#43
I saw that press conference and I have seen the tweets from his worthles campaign Stein Supporter...
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#20
No we aren't. The longer he stays in the more chance Trump has of defeating us in the General.
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#17
Biden has three things she doesn't. Name recognition, media support, and a penis.
progressoid
Mar 2020
#37
Sanders doesn't have any better path to the nomination now than Warren did when she dropped out.
TwilightZone
Mar 2020
#33
Maybe, just maybe, it's because all the other good options have bailed...
TreasonousBastard
Mar 2020
#13
Biden supporters have always been about winning the general...and clearly Sanders has a different
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#15
It's over. He has no chance in Georgia and Florida next week. What's the point? We need to get..
brush
Mar 2020
#35
I think Bernie is staying in because his supporrters demand it. They've given him A :OT sof $$
napi21
Mar 2020
#40
What's with Bernie not getting the message Democrats don't want him to the nominee?
HarlanPepper
Mar 2020
#73
Mathematically he can't win...it is dumb to delay the general...and he and his campaign are
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#85