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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: WaPo: On the 2008 bailout, Biden is right and Sanders is wrong [View all]thesquanderer
(12,350 posts)50. In the interest of complete transparency...
Here's the original post NJ is taking me to task over (which had been subsequently edited):
People who make assertions should be able to back them up. My assertions in this thread (that Sanders did support some kind of Wall Street bailout, and that he has cast major votes where he ended up accepting the Good rather than holding out for the Perfect) were backed up with links and examples, I didn't expect people to take me at my word, and I did not tell them to look it up for themselves. Similarly, if someone is going to take a contrary position to mine, I expect them to be able to back it up. Experience tells me that if they are unwilling or unable to do so, the likely reason is that they are talking out of their a**.
I'm putting it here because NJ seems to feel I'm trying to pull something by having edited away a perceived personal insult (she said, "it gets the message across without having to worry about the obvious repercussions or consequences. How clever!" "Editing is just an admission of guilt" etc. ). So now people will see it, and I hope people will see I was not being duplicitous. My edit was made, not to remove an insult that I didn't want to be held accountable for, but because I realized she was probably referring specifically to something mentioned earlier in the thread (even though it was not mentioned in the post I was actually replying to), which prompted me to then put up a different reply instead.
I'm curious to know what people here think about this. Of course, I can't change how NJ feels about it, but I don't want to do a lame "I'm sorry if you were offended" non-apology apology either... if I genuinely wronged someone, I'll offer a genuine apology. So I'm curious to see if I'm truly missing something here. Was this really an egregious personal affront? Do I appear to be calling anyone a liar, or stupid? I don't see a personal insult in saying that I think an assertion is likely to be bullsh*t when no support is provided for it, this does not seem to me to be beyond the pale for acceptable DU discourse. Am I really off-base here?
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Sanders did not want to guillotine the bankers. This opinion piece is wrong when it says...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#8
Sanders was not demanding prosecutions. But he wanted the bailout financed differently.
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#16
I thought your initial post was agreeing with the opinion piece in the OP...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#21
If the bailout didn't occur and the banks failed, MILLIONS of Americans in the 99% would have lost..
George II
Mar 2020
#7
Sanders supported a bailout, but thought it needed to be fixed, as he explained at the time...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#9
Who doesn't? Most votes of significance are a balance of good and bad, and you have to decide...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#11
Just one more thing to add to the long and growing list of reasons I cannot stand him.
NurseJackie
Mar 2020
#14
I gave you examples of the crime bill and obamacare, which I guess you count as some of...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#30
Brady bill. (And I'm sure there's a "reasonable excuse" for that as well, eh?)
NurseJackie
Mar 2020
#31
I guess you typed that before I edited to include a gimme for the gun votes.
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#32
re" Nobody is bashing Bernie" - Of course they are, with lies and misrepresentations,
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#38
You mean HIPAA? I DID look it up. That's how I got the link I posted before...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#40
Looks like you posted that before seeing my 1:05 edit, which I made when I realized...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#42
Yes... because my response of "HIPAA" may have been referring to something other than HIPAA.
NurseJackie
Mar 2020
#43
Again, saying that someone may be pulling something out of their ass (if they can't support it)...
thesquanderer
Mar 2020
#53