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Celerity

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23. his programme is nothing like Medicare, he just stole the name for buy-in due to name recognition
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:55 PM
Mar 2020

IF his programme (MFA) was actually passed, it would end 98% of most private insurance (only elective surgery types of PI would be left).

I am all for that, I have lived most of my entire life with basically free or near free universal healthcare on a single or semi-payer model (UK and Sweden), it is vastly better than the US for profit model, BUT it (MFA) will never pass atm in reactionary USA. There is zero chance even Biden's Public Option will pass. They could not get the PO passed when we has SIXTY seats in the Senate.

It is a pipe dream to think that even very Democratic Senator will vote for the Public Option now. Zero chance.


here:


Biden in Cross Hairs of the Partnership for America's Healthcare Future

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287207761

“Unfortunately, Vice President Biden’s proposal for a new government insurance system through a ‘public option’ would undermine the progress our nation has made and ultimately lead our nation down the path of a one-size-fits-all health care system run by Washington. From driving up premiums in the private market, to threatening our nation’s already at-risk hospitals, to diminishing Americans’ access to the quality care they need, research warns that such an approach could be disastrous for patients and consumers.
https://americashealthcarefuture.org/partnership-statement-on-biden-health-care-proposal/



and

here:


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287207761#post9

they are going after Biden's public option plan, just as I predicted for months, and this group Partnership for America's Healthcare Future is partially backed by Blue Cross/Blue Shield and AHIP, (America's Health Insurance Plans), who spent over 100 million USD in the last 14 months (prior to it's passage) trying to defeat the ACA and ever since then have vowed they will do the same to quash the public option.


Here is a direct quote from the OP's link

Unfortunately, Vice President Biden’s proposal for a new government insurance system through a ‘public option’ would undermine the progress our nation has made and ultimately lead our nation down the path of a one-size-fits-all health care system run by Washington. From driving up premiums in the private market, to threatening our nation’s already at-risk hospitals, to diminishing Americans’ access to the quality care they need, research warns that such an approach could be disastrous for patients and consumers.


The institutional power players are staunchly against even the slightest diminution of their extractive abilities within the for-profit health care matrix. The public option is a massive threat to them.

The co-chair of Biden's kick-off giant fundraiser in Philadelphia (at David Cohen's, the Comcast executive, home) was Daniel Hilferty, the Independence Blue Cross CEO and an executive director of AHIP. He was a key driver against the ACA, and now is helping lead the charge against the public option (not to mention he is obviously against MFA as well, which is not my preferred thing anyway).

Hilferty is bad news, and is just hedging his bets with Biden, as he almost always gives mostly to Rethugs like McTurtle. I am absolutely sure Hilferty will pop a 5000 USD bottle of some rare vintage of Dom Pérignon or other champagne if/when the SCOTUS invalidates all of the ACA, especially the pre-existing conditions clause. Biden should really disown him publicly, and anyone affiliated with Partnership for America's Healthcare Future and AHIP. It is a really bad look IMHO to have them involved to a point where he (I do not know about others) was a fundraising co-chair.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190503175136/https:/twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1121232294801547265



https://web.archive.org/web/20190503222233/https:/twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1121203315067490306




As Dems debate Medicare for All, a less radical idea stalls in blue states

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/08/health-care-blue-states-1308730

This was supposed to be the year blue states created government-run health insurance plans, after health care-fueled midterm election victories.

But legislation around the country to craft a so-called public option — a longtime progressive goal — has stalled over political and financial roadblocks, underscoring the challenge of creating coverage expansions even less comprehensive than the "Medicare for All" plan championed by Democratic presidential contenders and progressives in Congress.

Legislative proposals in New Mexico, Nevada and other states to set up a public option to give people more choices — and insurers more competition — have been watered down or shelved as lawmakers struggle to design affordable plans building on Obamacare. And multiple Democratic governors who backed the idea during their campaigns haven’t pushed it since taking office.

“When you’re dealing with a new issue — and this is a new idea — the biggest problem around the idea is one of cost," said former Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear, a Democrat. "Where is the money going to come from? And obviously every politician is concerned about that, rightfully so."

The public option has appeal among some moderate Democratic officials hoping to harness the base’s energetic support for Medicare for All in the 2020 elections — while skirting the political risk of embracing the full single-payer overhaul that Republicans decry as socialism. Democrats who have embraced less radical overhauls hoped to leverage the party’s newfound advantage on health care to make progress toward universal coverage this year while contrasting it with Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare.

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There already are troubling signs that the 2009 tactics (where the public option was taken off the table due to immense pressure from the lobbyists) are being baked in the cake yet again.

At Biden's first major campaign fundraiser, in Philadelphia a few weeks back, one of the co-hosts was Daniel Hilferty.

Daniel Hilferty is the CEO of Independence Blue Cross. He is on the board of America’s Health Insurance Plans, the trade association working to defeat the progressive push for Medicare for All. In national politics, Hilftery has exclusively donated to Republicans this year, records show. The health insurance executive gave $5,000 to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., along with smaller donations to other congressional Republicans (see below).

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_period=2020&contributor_name=Hilferty%2C+Daniel+&min_date=01%2F01%2F2019&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020





Hilferty's group America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), pumped in $102 million in 14 months to try and block Obamacare, now they are doing the same with MFA and even the much milder buy-in option.


Health Care Insurers Spent $100 Million To Defeat Obamacare


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1002805314

As the Supreme Court readies to announce their decision on the individual mandate portion of the health reform, it has emerged that the largest health care lobbying group in the country spent a total of $102.4 million in just 15 months to prevent Obamacare from becoming law in the first place.

In 2009 alone, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) pumped $86.2 million into a conservative lobbying group, the US Chamber of Commerce, to combat President Obama’s health care reform plan. But with the added months of 2010 prior to the ACA’s March passage, AHIP piled on an additional $16 million to be used against the bill.

That staggering total, which the National Journal’s Influence Alley uncovered today, was not out in the open — rather, the funds were transferred through a secretive process and listed only by the organization as ‘advocacy’ spending:

The backchannel spending allowed insurers to publicly stake out a pro-reform position while privately funding the leading anti-reform lobbying group in Washington. The chamber spent tens of millions of dollars bankrolling efforts to kill health care reform.


more at link
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/13/499093/health-care-insurers-spent-100-million-to-combat-the-affordable-care-act/




https://www.opensecrets.org/search?order=desc&q=daniel+hilferty&sort=D&type=donors







They are still at it (trying to destroy the public option)


AHIP mobilizes industry opposition to public option (2016 efforts)

https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/ahip-mobilizes-industry-opposition-to-public-option/426659/


Dive Brief:

The leading health insurance industry trade group, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), launched an effort last week to mobilize members against the growing push for a public option, which would create a government-run health insurance plan to compete with private plans on the ACA exchanges.

AHIP's action alert last week asked its members to contact Senate offices and provided a list of talking points to assist in arguments against the public option, The Huffington Post reported.

The move came within hours of the introduction of a resolution by 27 Senate Democrats, led by Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley, calling for the public option--an idea that President Barack Obama and presidential nominee Hillary Clinton have also recently joined forces to support.

Dive Insight:

AHIP's swift action suggests the group sees the groundswell of support for a public option from legislators and advocates as a real threat. The concept has essentially come back from the dead after raising major debate during the crafting of the ACA, but subsequently being left out of the health law due to concerns among lawmakers, including some liberals, as well as opposition from industry groups.

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2019


Partnership Statement On Introduction Of Senate Medicare-X Legislation A Public Option Would Restrict Patient Choice of Plans and Access to Care

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/partnership-statement-on-introduction-of-senate-medicare-x-legislation/


ICYMI: “Medicare Buy-In, Public Option Proposals Would Harm Our Health Care System”

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/icymi-medicare-buy-in-public-option-proposals-would-harm-our-health-care-system/


they also will fight to stop the US government from having the ability to negotiate lower drug prices


A BITTER PILL: HOW BIG PHARMA LOBBIES TO KEEP PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES HIGH

https://www.citizensforethics.org/a-bitter-pill-how-big-pharma-lobbies-to-keep-prescription-drug-prices-high/



PARTNERSHIP FOR AMERICA’S HEALTH CARE FUTURE.

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/about-us/





The American Medical Association, BlueCross BlueShield and the Federation of American Hospitals are behind this PAC that is constantly buying ads on YouTube against Obamacare and single payer healthcare.
They also don't like Biden's plan to repair Obamacare."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
And, what's that post saying "BS shouldn't get pressured Cha Mar 2020 #1
Unless he drops out soon, it's clear he is hoping Trump wins. tritsofme Mar 2020 #2
Spot on! blue-wave Mar 2020 #3
I don't see how e continue to give him the benefit of doubt. showblue22 Mar 2020 #6
I never did.. ever. Cha Mar 2020 #22
I've been saying that was my hunch. Some ppl said it was extreme. onetexan Mar 2020 #11
It would bring into question his votes on sanctions, not disclosing he knew Russia was helping him, MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #16
Not only hoping, but insuring. nt jrthin Mar 2020 #30
Taken out of context videohead5 Mar 2020 #4
It doesn't stop Bernie from showing that to his supporters. TODAY. showblue22 Mar 2020 #5
he lost because he didn't build Cha Mar 2020 #24
So you're saying that blue-wave Mar 2020 #7
Motives? Lol, no kidding. I've often wished political psychologists would Hortensis Mar 2020 #8
He's wanting to have the illusion of a single payer plan Aquaria Mar 2020 #9
Sure. Borrowing the label was marketing genius, so Hortensis Mar 2020 #15
What about the motives of his campaign staff? dansolo Mar 2020 #21
On, yes, I was wondering what's going on with them. Hortensis Mar 2020 #25
his programme is nothing like Medicare, he just stole the name for buy-in due to name recognition Celerity Mar 2020 #23
If you want go into deeper personal reasons then you'll have to examine the person. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #13
"Internecine nightmare." I don't think we have to worry about Hortensis Mar 2020 #18
I saw somewhere, I forget where now, a long discussion about Bernie's healthcare efforts.. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #19
Matt Taibbi, say no more. God! I think he was never very Hortensis Mar 2020 #20
Al Smith's epic 1928 promise to "Make your wet dreams come true" retrospectively hardest to top. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #32
Lol, I'd heard of "The Happy Warrior" slogan, but what Hortensis Mar 2020 #33
I'll get banned if I say what I think his motives are. Aquaria Mar 2020 #10
Won't make a morsel of difference at this point. ucrdem Mar 2020 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #14
From who? Evergreen Emerald Mar 2020 #28
Wow. This is nothing I expected. lindysalsagal Mar 2020 #17
Bernie works for Trump. PubliusEnigma Mar 2020 #26
Yes, indeed. showblue22 Mar 2020 #27
Petty. betsuni Mar 2020 #29
These days Sanders reminds me of Howard Beale, from the movie Network. sop Mar 2020 #31
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