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In reply to the discussion: What Makes Bernie Run? [View all]Gothmog
(158,255 posts)63. sanders has accomplished nothing in the real world
Again, I have never considered sanders to be a serious candidate because I live in the real world where accomplishments matter. sanders is ignored by his fellow Democrats because all sanders does is talk and sanders does not engage in the hard work necessary to get legislation adopted. Even Senator Warren is tired of sanders
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sanders is only appealing to less than 30% of the Democratic Party base and that is not sufficient for anyone to take sander seriously in the real world
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So if, from day one, they didnt think they needed more than 30%, why would they actually run a campaign and build a culture designed to win more than his 30% ceiling? As that article notes, even way back in early 2019, Sanders was picking fights and creating enemies out of potential allies.
We saw that in Sanders refusal to broaden his message to bring in more people. When I said exactly that on Meet the Press, that the problem with Bernie Sanders is that he has the exact same message he had four years ago when he lost to Hillary Clinton 60-40, the response from the Sanders campaign was, well, this:
If your message wasnt a majority message four years ago, and you want to win, wouldnt you tweak it? They didnt. Proudly and explicitly did not tweak it. They had zero intention of growing new support by broadening and expanding their message. (Sanders famously refused to even inject more biography into his stump speech to humanize him more.)
Sanders and his campaign saw that their ceiling was 30%, and they built an entire strategy around winning with 30%. That means that instead of seeing the other 70% of voters as allies, they saw them as THE ENEMY. Even when there was ideological alignment.
We saw that in Sanders refusal to broaden his message to bring in more people. When I said exactly that on Meet the Press, that the problem with Bernie Sanders is that he has the exact same message he had four years ago when he lost to Hillary Clinton 60-40, the response from the Sanders campaign was, well, this:
Link to tweet
If your message wasnt a majority message four years ago, and you want to win, wouldnt you tweak it? They didnt. Proudly and explicitly did not tweak it. They had zero intention of growing new support by broadening and expanding their message. (Sanders famously refused to even inject more biography into his stump speech to humanize him more.)
Sanders and his campaign saw that their ceiling was 30%, and they built an entire strategy around winning with 30%. That means that instead of seeing the other 70% of voters as allies, they saw them as THE ENEMY. Even when there was ideological alignment.
I understood sanders' message. I just do not consider sanders to be a serious messenger because I live in the real world

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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If he's so inspiring, why is he getting his clock cleaned in the primaries?
The Velveteen Ocelot
Mar 2020
#1
I can't deal with OPs like this because I am dealing with a fucking global crisis
still_one
Mar 2020
#3
Trumps approval numbers are up, we have to get to the General...Sanders needs to go...and he
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#8
And Bernies issues were sound rejected by millions of voters-twice now...16 and 20.
Demsrule86
Mar 2020
#10
As of now, Biden has received 25% more popular votes and 25% more delegates than Sanders.....
George II
Mar 2020
#18
That's absolutely not true. Let's take the minimum wage, for example. There has been....
George II
Mar 2020
#27
Clinton had two years control and so did Obama, but the Senate for only a few months.
betsuni
Mar 2020
#58
It seems that many supporters of a particular candidate are forever explaining to those
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#70
Indeed. "Issues" is something any one of us could run on. We need someone who gets things done. (nt)
ehrnst
Mar 2020
#75
In just one day (yesterday to today) 538's forecast of delegates increased Biden's by 47.8 while...
George II
Mar 2020
#12
when one is used to being a big fish in a small pond the attention is hard to lose nt
msongs
Mar 2020
#30
Americans expect their Senators to be ON THE JOB, doing the work of Senators @$15,000 a month.
George II
Mar 2020
#45
Running for the Democratic nomination has proven very profitable for him and his family.
W_HAMILTON
Mar 2020
#40
I believe the only way Sanders' "movement" can survive and grow is if Trump wins in 2020.
sop
Mar 2020
#54
The same thing that made Trump run: A massive ego and a claim that only he can save the world.
NNadir
Mar 2020
#77