Democratic Primaries

Laelth

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80. Honestly, I don't care who deserves the credit.

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:53 PM

Mar 2020

I am thrilled to have a truly liberal party, at last, and I am willing to give Bernie at least some credit for that. You should try it. It won’t hurt nearly as much as you think.

Go Joe!

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders didn't win any larger argument [View all] Gothmog Mar 2020 OP

Sanders is like a gnat in the sweltering hot weather in Florida. NT William769 Mar 2020 #1

Thank You! Jeeze! Cha Mar 2020 #2

Hey Cha Gothmog Mar 2020 #61

He needs to concede mcar Mar 2020 #3

He's having a hard time dealing with this. ucrdem Mar 2020 #4

He's beginning to look like a 21st Century Harold Stassen. George II Mar 2020 #6

That's giving him more credit than perhaps he deserves. ucrdem Mar 2020 #7

Bernie returned True Blue American Apr 2020 #102

So I had to look up Harold Stassen.. I knew Cha Mar 2020 #8

There are flies that orbit a charging bull's head NCProgressive Mar 2020 #5

Sanders won the issues, and with voters under 45. Biden won on electability. DanTex Mar 2020 #9

No he didn't! What are these "issues" that Sander won? The majority of Democrats AND.... George II Mar 2020 #10

so going forward.... Locrian Mar 2020 #13

The kind that we can pass quickly...millions of people's lives depend on it...can't have some huge Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #15

We have the infrastructure of the ACA in place, along with REAL Medicare (not some faux "for all") George II Mar 2020 #16

Medicare 4 All is not the panacea you think it is Aquaria Mar 2020 #39

Sanders's secret is out: He has no movement - Gothmog Mar 2020 #11

No, it obviously isn't. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #12

Of course it is! He won overwhelmingly among young voters. DanTex Mar 2020 #19

That's what Sanders' supporters claimed in 2016 Orrex Mar 2020 #31

And they were right. Young voters again went to Bernie by huge numbers. DanTex Mar 2020 #32

If they'd gone in huge numbers, he'd have won. Orrex Mar 2020 #34

But they didn't turn out in huge numbers Aquaria Mar 2020 #41

And if BS's "ideas" had any traction, Aquaria Mar 2020 #42

Again, ignoring the data. DanTex Mar 2020 #48

Think Joe Biden Has a Young Voter Problem? Think Again. Gothmog Mar 2020 #64

sanders young voters never showed up Gothmog Apr 2020 #100

Biden does not have an issue with young voters in the real world Gothmog Mar 2020 #45

Why do you think that he coudn't inspire them to register and get to a polling place on a Tuesday? ehrnst Mar 2020 #72

Memes and online polls do not vote Gothmog Apr 2020 #104

I still suspect Aquaria Mar 2020 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Anon-C Mar 2020 #56

Biden won and that is that...and M4A will never pass Congress. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #17

He won by cleaning up with older voters. Bernie and progressives are the future. DanTex Mar 2020 #20

Time is not on Bernie's side. nt William769 Mar 2020 #22

If Sander got younger voters, he could have won...they didn't show up Dan...his base Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #23

He did get younger voters by huge margins. Turnout was the problem. DanTex Mar 2020 #27

Woulda coulda shoulda Aquaria Mar 2020 #43

The Gauzy Myth of the Sanders Campaign Gothmog Mar 2020 #52

The young folks today will not get older and still be in his "movement." showblue22 Mar 2020 #26

Of course they will. It's a generational shift. DanTex Mar 2020 #30

If they didn't vote for him, you can't say that he won them. It's really that simple. Orrex Mar 2020 #35

They did vote for him. Just look at the exit polls. DanTex Mar 2020 #36

Joe Biden supported $15 minimum wage in 2015. betsuni Mar 2020 #44

LOL. For fast food workers in New York. DanTex Mar 2020 #46

Fight for Fifteen started in 2012 and has raised minimum wages around the country. betsuni Mar 2020 #50

LOL. Bernie has been driving the fight for $15. It has everything to do with Bernie. DanTex Mar 2020 #55

Reality Aquaria Mar 2020 #59

All this seems to be an excuse to repeat the word "centrist." betsuni Mar 2020 #60

"Pro-corporate centrists", please. Codeine Mar 2020 #66

The problem with this straw you clutch so desperately Aquaria Mar 2020 #51

Again, you ignore the exit poll data, which is understandable because it totally contradicts DanTex Mar 2020 #57

According to the exit data hard left lost to moderate in a landslide redstateblues Mar 2020 #58

But their "huge numbers" weren't enough to do shit for him Orrex Mar 2020 #62

Incidentally, I love how you tag dissenters as "centrist" Orrex Mar 2020 #63

Think Joe Biden Has a Young Voter Problem? Think Again. Gothmog Mar 2020 #47

LOL. Yeah, against Trump, of course Biden does better with younger voters. DanTex Mar 2020 #49

LOL the real world is a nice place Gothmog Mar 2020 #53

Message From Hillary Gothmog Mar 2020 #75

Folks are going to believe what they want, regardless of the reality jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #18

It would take years to put every person in the country on Medicare...and the cost would be Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #24

new deal style policies would ease the pain of the millions who jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #70

Reality says otherwise Aquaria Mar 2020 #38

You have no idea what young voters want Codeine Mar 2020 #65

A majority of Democrats just don't like Bernie. It's not that complicated Walleye Apr 2020 #101

I am so glad you posted this...K&R Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #14

You are welcomed Gothmog Mar 2020 #37

They offered similar bullshit rationalizations when he LOST in 2016 Orrex Mar 2020 #21

+10000 Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #25

Sen. Sander's will never admit or realize showblue22 Mar 2020 #29

Yeah, he's a big fan of the "fake news" accusation Orrex Mar 2020 #33

He was arguing with himself. betsuni Mar 2020 #28

Give Bernie his participation trophy and be done with it. NoMoreRepugs Mar 2020 #54

"The only thing he's owed is a chance to exit with grace." Tarheel_Dem Mar 2020 #67

"Sanders's vision for the party has been soundly and consistently rejected..." NurseJackie Mar 2020 #68

"Sanders's vision for the party has been soundly and consistently rejected." Hortensis Mar 2020 #69

+1000 oasis Mar 2020 #71

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Mar 2020 #73

Ouch! OnDoutside Mar 2020 #76

Why Can't Bernie Accept That Democratic Voters Didn't Want Him? Gothmog Mar 2020 #74

For me, the M4A litmus test excluded me from the revolution. bluedye33139 Mar 2020 #77

+1 betsuni Mar 2020 #81

He DID win the larger argument. Laelth Mar 2020 #78

Nope. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #79

Honestly, I don't care who deserves the credit. Laelth Mar 2020 #80

What ideas were considered "crazy" four years ago? betsuni Mar 2020 #82

M4A, UBI, Green New Deal (just to name three). Laelth Mar 2020 #83

Every four years the party platform becomes more progressive. That's how time works. betsuni Mar 2020 #84

Perhaps he takes more credit than he is due. Laelth Mar 2020 #89

Not Really, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #90

I see the red ink. I am not fond of it, either. Laelth Mar 2020 #91

Unfortunately, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #92

Not in the real world Gothmog Mar 2020 #85

No. The arguments haven't turned into reality yet. Laelth Mar 2020 #87

You do not take into account that the messenger has poisoned the message Gothmog Mar 2020 #93

sanders's secret is out: He has no movement - The Washington Post Gothmog Mar 2020 #86

Sanders can't win the nomination. Laelth Mar 2020 #88

sanders is not popular in the party Gothmog Mar 2020 #94

Why did Bernie Sanders drop out? The progressive majority he needed doesn't exist Gothmog Apr 2020 #106

Kick Cha Mar 2020 #95

Hey Cha Gothmog Mar 2020 #96

Thank you for that, Tweet, Goth! Please check out my OP Cha Mar 2020 #97

... Scurrilous Mar 2020 #98

How 'Never Bernie' Voters Threw In With Biden and Changed the Primary Gothmog Apr 2020 #99

Bernie Sanders is out. And the insincere praise begins. Gothmog Apr 2020 #103

Bernie Sanders Didn't Win the Ideas Primary, Either Gothmog Apr 2020 #105