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The Magistrate

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53. Do You Seriously Think, Sir, That Is What Happened?
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 11:47 PM
Mar 2020

The blockage was from four Republican Senators who initially disobeyed orders from McConnell in the matter. McConnell wanted the bill passed as is, and does not tolerate insubordination, at least not insubordination that goes beyond a few short-lived gestures. The grand 'Bernie' speech, stirring as it may have been, can have had no more actual effect than possibly to have given cover for the four Republican dissidents to submit to McConnell's demand for their votes in assent without too much ruffling of feathers all around. Everyone involved, from Speaker Pelosi and Sen Schumer, through McConnell and McCarthy, clear down to Trump itself, wanted the bill passed in the form it was presented, and except when the four Republican dissidents spoke to themselves, they heard nothing from anyone but demands they strike their colors and end their foolishness. Sanders threat, that he would hold up the bill by some manipulation of the rules, was as empty as the gestures of the four Republican dissidents. It would not have been tolerated by leadership of either side, and could not have stood more than a few hours. This is not some Frank Capra movie, grand speeches on the Senate floor nowadays move no one by the time the actual vote looms, and neither side of this showboating kerfuffle had any real threat at their disposal. Without a real threat, there is no leverage, and nothing is moved.





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Joe Biden
How nice of him to finally show up at his job. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
... William769 Mar 2020 #2
Spitting fire? A good antacid will help with that. Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #3
Guess he's feeling his own Bern. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #22
That's funny! MontanaMama Mar 2020 #83
Who cares? showblue22 Mar 2020 #4
+1 zackymilly Mar 2020 #23
The room is empty dude. BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #5
Bernie is the master of the empty gesture so yelling at an comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #65
👍🏻 BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #66
The fact is, they didn't hold up unemployment benefits.... George II Mar 2020 #6
delayed outrage. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #7
a reminder we are all on the same team. He did good for us with this. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #8
He did? How do you figure? William769 Mar 2020 #12
He threatened to put a hold on the bill if the GOP senators tried to force their corporate welfare jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #67
You'r not very good at rewriting history. William769 Mar 2020 #68
good thing I'm not. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #69
What did he do that Pelosi and Warren Aquaria Mar 2020 #79
How so? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #16
He didn't do anything. Ninsianna Mar 2020 #21
LOL! Welcome to DU! n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #24
crickets. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #41
Thanks, you too!! jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #70
Thank you! Sorry I missed your 2-week anniversary a couple days ago! zackymilly Mar 2020 #74
"anniversaries" comes from annual jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #75
You've Never Been Young And In Love, Sir, Obviously The Magistrate Mar 2020 #81
I don't quite understand all of this post jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #85
He did nothing, all the details of the bill were already established while he was still in Vermont.. George II Mar 2020 #38
Sanders needs to back Biden 100%. LizBeth Mar 2020 #9
Rules of the Coronavirus: sheshe2 Mar 2020 #10
is there such a word as followership? nt msongs Mar 2020 #11
Not sure... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #14
Others did the hard work and heavy lifting. Bernie shows up at the last minute. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #13
Not leading. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #15
As usual. Squinch Mar 2020 #28
And in the future Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #35
Sorry, no longer care relayerbob Mar 2020 #17
Backbencher... Skya Rhen Mar 2020 #18
Is this a set up? Has he created this "speech" Evergreen Emerald Mar 2020 #19
No. The Senate is imposing social distancing; only those speaking present, Liberty Belle Mar 2020 #25
There have been a number of Senators in the chamber at the same time..... George II Mar 2020 #32
Well done Senator Sanders. jalan48 Mar 2020 #20
All the modifications to the bill were already determined days before his speech on the floor... George II Mar 2020 #33
... Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #42
You can't keep a good man down. jalan48 Mar 2020 #44
You can if he prefers sulking in Vermont Aquaria Mar 2020 #76
LOL Scurrilous Mar 2020 #62
. Squinch Mar 2020 #26
Peggy March sheshe2 Mar 2020 #39
lol oasis Mar 2020 #71
hmmm.... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #73
That part was already done before Sanders' photo op in empty room. Hoyt Mar 2020 #27
Spits fire indeed. But accomplishes NADA, since... LovingLife Mar 2020 #29
I don't know about fire, but the rest....? George II Mar 2020 #34
A side: Top cruise companies don't locate in America and won't get piece of a $500 billion bailout LovingLife Mar 2020 #30
Paywall. n/t Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #36
Nina Golgowski wrote this piece -- she is a protege of David Sirota NCProgressive Mar 2020 #31
Another Nina. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #43
Berniebro to the core NCProgressive Mar 2020 #47
If He Could Actually Spit Fire, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #37
Was there a musical guest? mcar Mar 2020 #40
Sanders stood up for the people struggling most and it paid off. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #45
You do know the days of negotiations where already over, correct? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #48
Yes, Sanders was the only Dem Senator who stood up against the R's attempt to strip that benefit. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #49
signed seal delivered... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #51
This is why we need progressives. Don1 Mar 2020 #52
Do You Seriously Think, Sir, That Is What Happened? The Magistrate Mar 2020 #53
Yes. That is what I believe. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #55
All Right Then, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #56
I was hoping for a fact based answer but it seems you've given me another fortune cookie. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #57
Have Another Then, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #58
I will contemplate that one. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #59
I Could Keep This Up All Night, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #60
OK, gave me a much needed laugh there. Aaron Pereira Mar 2020 #61
Happy We Ended On A Friendly Note, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #64
Then offer some of them Aquaria Mar 2020 #82
Total bullshit. Aquaria Mar 2020 #80
Woohoo! Don1 Mar 2020 #46
Empty gesture Aquaria Mar 2020 #77
Furthermore, Slanders Aquaria Mar 2020 #78
Nothing to say here BidenBacker Mar 2020 #50
LOL sanders is taking credit for Senator Bennett's hard work Gothmog Mar 2020 #54
Low Barred Bernie. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #63
Meant absolutely NOTHING Yavin4 Mar 2020 #72
Sigh. MontanaMama Mar 2020 #84
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