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Celerity

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80. have a look at this, Sir, from July, 2019, attacking Biden's (and thus all the other candidates as
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 04:20 PM
Mar 2020

well) Public Option plans.


Partnership Statement On Biden Health Care Proposal

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/partnership-statement-on-biden-health-care-proposal/

WASHINGTON – The Partnership for America’s Health Care Future issued the following statement regarding former Vice President Joe Biden’s proposal to implement a new government health insurance system:

“We strongly believe that every American deserves access to high-quality health care, and we agree with the majority of Americans who believe the best way to achieve this is to build and improve upon what is working, while coming together to fix what isn’t,” Lauren Crawford Shaver, the Partnership’s Executive Director, said. “Unfortunately, Vice President Biden’s proposal for a new government insurance system through a ‘public option’ would undermine the progress our nation has made and ultimately lead our nation down the path of a one-size-fits-all health care system run by Washington. From driving up premiums in the private market, to threatening our nation’s already at-risk hospitals, to diminishing Americans’ access to the quality care they need, research warns that such an approach could be disastrous for patients and consumers.”

A recent study found that government insurance systems like the one Biden proposes could force hospitals to limit the care they provide, produce significant “layoffs” and “potentially force the closure of essential hospitals.” Other research reveals the significant risks to hospitals and patients posed by so-called “moderate” alternatives to Medicare for all, such as “public option” or “Medicare buy-in” proposals. One study found that “[f]or hospitals, the introduction of a public plan that reimburses providers using Medicare rates would compound financial stresses they are already facing, potentially impacting access to care and provider quality.”


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my thoughts

Even back then they were already going after Biden's public option plan, just as I predicted for ages, and this group Partnership for America's Healthcare Future is partially backed by Blue Cross/Blue Shield and AHIP, (America's Health Insurance Plans), who spent over 100 million USD in the last 14 months (prior to it's passage) trying to defeat the ACA and ever since then have vowed they will do the same to quash the public option.


Here is a direct quote from that statement again:

Unfortunately, Vice President Biden’s proposal for a new government insurance system through a ‘public option’ would undermine the progress our nation has made and ultimately lead our nation down the path of a one-size-fits-all health care system run by Washington. From driving up premiums in the private market, to threatening our nation’s already at-risk hospitals, to diminishing Americans’ access to the quality care they need, research warns that such an approach could be disastrous for patients and consumers.


The institutional power players are staunchly against even the slightest diminution of their extractive abilities within the for-profit health care matrix. The public option is a massive threat to them.

The co-chair of Biden's kick-off giant fundraiser in Philadelphia (at David Cohen's, the Comcast executive, home) was Daniel Hilferty, the Independence Blue Cross CEO and an executive director of AHIP. He was a key driver against the ACA, and now is helping lead the charge against the public option (not to mention he is obviously against MFA as well, which is not my preferred thing anyway).

Hilferty is bad news, and is just hedging his bets with Biden, as he almost always gives mostly to Rethugs like McTurtle. I am absolutely sure Hilferty will pop a 5000 USD bottle of some rare vintage of Dom Pérignon or other champagne if/when the SCOTUS invalidates all of the ACA, especially the pre-existing conditions clause. Biden should really disown him publicly, and anyone affiliated with Partnership for America's Healthcare Future and AHIP. It is a really bad look IMHO to have them involved to a point where he (I do not know about others) was a fundraising co-chair.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190503175136/https:/twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1121232294801547265



https://web.archive.org/web/20190503222233/https:/twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1121203315067490306




As Dems debate Medicare for All, a less radical idea stalls in blue states

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/08/health-care-blue-states-1308730

This was supposed to be the year blue states created government-run health insurance plans, after health care-fueled midterm election victories.

But legislation around the country to craft a so-called public option — a longtime progressive goal — has stalled over political and financial roadblocks, underscoring the challenge of creating coverage expansions even less comprehensive than the "Medicare for All" plan championed by Democratic presidential contenders and progressives in Congress.

Legislative proposals in New Mexico, Nevada and other states to set up a public option to give people more choices — and insurers more competition — have been watered down or shelved as lawmakers struggle to design affordable plans building on Obamacare. And multiple Democratic governors who backed the idea during their campaigns haven’t pushed it since taking office.

“When you’re dealing with a new issue — and this is a new idea — the biggest problem around the idea is one of cost," said former Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear, a Democrat. "Where is the money going to come from? And obviously every politician is concerned about that, rightfully so."

The public option has appeal among some moderate Democratic officials hoping to harness the base’s energetic support for Medicare for All in the 2020 elections — while skirting the political risk of embracing the full single-payer overhaul that Republicans decry as socialism. Democrats who have embraced less radical overhauls hoped to leverage the party’s newfound advantage on health care to make progress toward universal coverage this year while contrasting it with Republican efforts to repeal Obamacare.

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There already are troubling signs that the 2009 tactics (where the public option was taken off the table due to immense pressure from the lobbyists) are being baked in the cake yet again.

At Biden's first major campaign fundraiser, in Philadelphia a few weeks back, one of the co-hosts was Daniel Hilferty.

Daniel Hilferty is the CEO of Independence Blue Cross. He is on the board of America’s Health Insurance Plans, the trade association working to defeat the progressive push for Medicare for All. In national politics, Hilftery has exclusively donated to Republicans this year, records show. The health insurance executive gave $5,000 to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., along with smaller donations to other congressional Republicans (see below).

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_period=2020&contributor_name=Hilferty%2C+Daniel+&min_date=01%2F01%2F2019&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020





Hilferty's group America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), pumped in $102 million in 14 months to try and block Obamacare, now they are doing the same with MFA and even the much milder buy-in option.


Health Care Insurers Spent $100 Million To Defeat Obamacare


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1002805314

As the Supreme Court readies to announce their decision on the individual mandate portion of the health reform, it has emerged that the largest health care lobbying group in the country spent a total of $102.4 million in just 15 months to prevent Obamacare from becoming law in the first place.

In 2009 alone, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) pumped $86.2 million into a conservative lobbying group, the US Chamber of Commerce, to combat President Obama’s health care reform plan. But with the added months of 2010 prior to the ACA’s March passage, AHIP piled on an additional $16 million to be used against the bill.

That staggering total, which the National Journal’s Influence Alley uncovered today, was not out in the open — rather, the funds were transferred through a secretive process and listed only by the organization as ‘advocacy’ spending:

The backchannel spending allowed insurers to publicly stake out a pro-reform position while privately funding the leading anti-reform lobbying group in Washington. The chamber spent tens of millions of dollars bankrolling efforts to kill health care reform.


more at this link

https://web.archive.org/web/20120717104832/http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/06/13/499093/health-care-insurers-spent-100-million-to-combat-the-affordable-care-act/




https://www.opensecrets.org/search?order=desc&q=daniel+hilferty&sort=D&type=donors







They are still at it (trying to destroy the public option)


AHIP mobilizes industry opposition to public option (2016 efforts)

https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/ahip-mobilizes-industry-opposition-to-public-option/426659/


Dive Brief:

The leading health insurance industry trade group, America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), launched an effort last week to mobilize members against the growing push for a public option, which would create a government-run health insurance plan to compete with private plans on the ACA exchanges.

AHIP's action alert last week asked its members to contact Senate offices and provided a list of talking points to assist in arguments against the public option, The Huffington Post reported.

The move came within hours of the introduction of a resolution by 27 Senate Democrats, led by Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley, calling for the public option--an idea that President Barack Obama and presidential nominee Hillary Clinton have also recently joined forces to support.

Dive Insight:

AHIP's swift action suggests the group sees the groundswell of support for a public option from legislators and advocates as a real threat. The concept has essentially come back from the dead after raising major debate during the crafting of the ACA, but subsequently being left out of the health law due to concerns among lawmakers, including some liberals, as well as opposition from industry groups.

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2019


Partnership Statement On Introduction Of Senate Medicare-X Legislation A Public Option Would Restrict Patient Choice of Plans and Access to Care

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/partnership-statement-on-introduction-of-senate-medicare-x-legislation/


ICYMI: “Medicare Buy-In, Public Option Proposals Would Harm Our Health Care System”

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/icymi-medicare-buy-in-public-option-proposals-would-harm-our-health-care-system/


they also will fight to stop the US government from having the ability to negotiate lower drug prices


A BITTER PILL: HOW BIG PHARMA LOBBIES TO KEEP PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES HIGH

https://www.citizensforethics.org/a-bitter-pill-how-big-pharma-lobbies-to-keep-prescription-drug-prices-high/



PARTNERSHIP FOR AMERICA’S HEALTH CARE FUTURE.

https://americashealthcarefuture.org/about-us/



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Amen to that!! Peacetrain Mar 2020 #1
Kick! mcar Mar 2020 #2
Not sure how bringing up how nice it would be if everyone had insurance at a time like now ... mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #3
Yes, my mileage varies. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #8
do you realize for the uninsured everyday is a crisis? questionseverything Mar 2020 #29
So. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #35
my post didnt say one thing about bernie or biden for that matter questionseverything Mar 2020 #42
italy has universal health care and guaranteed one month paid vacation nt msongs Mar 2020 #4
Yep. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #12
Italy has what Bernie wants BidenBacker Mar 2020 #22
+1000 Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #25
You are conflating two different things. Gore1FL Mar 2020 #49
That was exactly my point BidenBacker Mar 2020 #78
M4A would be a disaster relayerbob Mar 2020 #5
Thank God the benevolent insurance companies have our backs! ZZenith Mar 2020 #6
It's about having alternatives relayerbob Mar 2020 #9
But you would agree their balance is way closer to socializing the costs than ours, yes? ZZenith Mar 2020 #13
AS I said elsewhere relayerbob Mar 2020 #32
Get back with me in a couple of weeks on that death rate, thanks. ZZenith Mar 2020 #36
Yes ZZ !!!!!! DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #46
Rate .... not total number relayerbob Mar 2020 #64
Your preference for a for-profit healthcare system is noted as well. Cheers. ZZenith Mar 2020 #65
Where exactly did I say that????? relayerbob Mar 2020 #66
I say again DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #73
Perhaps your main beef is with your fucked-up political system. luvtheGWN Mar 2020 #56
Precisely. ZZenith Mar 2020 #62
Ya think? relayerbob Mar 2020 #63
Funny how we don't have that worry. luvtheGWN Mar 2020 #71
Yes, obviously it is relayerbob Mar 2020 #72
to claim the UK as a 'hybrid system' is very disingenuous Celerity Mar 2020 #19
Thank you. ZZenith Mar 2020 #21
I thought I detected an accent in your posts BidenBacker Mar 2020 #23
BoJo the bellend can go sod the fuck off, along with the rest of the Tories and their Lib Dem Celerity Mar 2020 #28
LOL...you really shouldn't hold back when you post, Cel BidenBacker Mar 2020 #33
To assume I am for insurance is a mistake relayerbob Mar 2020 #31
Then why did you push clear disinfo about the UK? Also you've no idea what the true and final death Celerity Mar 2020 #44
Try not being a jerk relayerbob Mar 2020 #51
I was born in Los Angeles, moved with my parents at less than 2 years old to London, where I was Celerity Mar 2020 #53
You also don't have a political party whose main purpose relayerbob Mar 2020 #38
Go tell that to a MFA fangirl, cuz you are not engaged in a colloquy when you're conversing with me. Celerity Mar 2020 #47
You aren't even making any sense relayerbob Mar 2020 #50
you need some manners, ya' obviously got no broughtupsy, to wax Bajan for a wee bit Celerity Mar 2020 #55
A Skilled Politician, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #77
have a look at this, Sir, from July, 2019, attacking Biden's (and thus all the other candidates as Celerity Mar 2020 #80
I Agree There Will Be Opposition, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #83
We need 60 votes, and even if we need a simple majority, and even of we take it back by say a 52-48 Celerity Mar 2020 #84
I Do Not Disagree, Ma'am The Magistrate Mar 2020 #85
Love that cartoon! BidenBacker Mar 2020 #81
me too! Celerity Mar 2020 #82
I'm serious, Cel...LOL BidenBacker Mar 2020 #86
Better they than Trump. Mine called today to offer numbers to call for telemedicine visits, mental emmaverybo Mar 2020 #18
And this!! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #26
A fair request made in a beautiful way. marble falls Mar 2020 #7
Hey, mf. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #11
+1 ucrdem Mar 2020 #69
I don't listen much if at all to Bernie any more BidenBacker Mar 2020 #10
++++++++++++++++++++++++++ emmaverybo Mar 2020 #20
Good luck with that. William769 Mar 2020 #14
I know, William. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #15
My prayers are with you and your family. William769 Mar 2020 #16
Love you. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #17
Bernie is Just Being Selfish By Using CV-19 to Push M4All Indykatie Mar 2020 #24
+1 sheshe2 Mar 2020 #27
Nutshell BidenBacker Mar 2020 #30
+1000 sheshe2 Mar 2020 #37
Man BidenBacker Mar 2020 #39
I agree that M4A doesn't help our current situation and arguing about t doesn't solve immediate... mjvpi Mar 2020 #34
actually if we had m4a, we would have more docs, nurses and hospitals since we would be treating the questionseverything Mar 2020 #45
Really? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #57
stands to reason if we had a system that treated an additional 70 million peops questionseverything Mar 2020 #87
I am not trying to cause issues here or fight with you. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #88
hopefully if we have a system based on peops needs instead of profits questionseverything Mar 2020 #89
I hope you are right. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #92
your neice is a hero, as are the other docs and nurses questionseverything Mar 2020 #94
K&R! Bravo! IluvPitties Mar 2020 #40
He has said that as president he'll have rallies and the people will force Republicans to do betsuni Mar 2020 #41
He has been rallying/ campaigning for 5 years now. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #54
I always think of a reporter's description of her first interview with him. betsuni Mar 2020 #58
You nailed it. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #59
the fact he is undermining NewEnglandAutumn Mar 2020 #43
We have a psychopath in the WH. He wants people to die. littlemissmartypants Mar 2020 #48
We already have more cases than Italy, and are likely to have exponentially more deaths. jorgevlorgan Mar 2020 #52
Isn't complaining about people talking about it doing exactly the same? Kali Mar 2020 #60
Welp, Kali. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #61
I guess I'm referring to you Kali Mar 2020 #67
No. ucrdem Mar 2020 #68
Lol sheshe2 Mar 2020 #70
Always loved that song ucrdem Mar 2020 #93
Sorry. It isn't "politicizing it" to point out how people without insurance kcr Mar 2020 #74
Did you see the OP the other day? sheshe2 Mar 2020 #79
I didn't read that thread, but it doesn't matter. kcr Mar 2020 #95
Pilot Putinpuppet BidenBacker Mar 2020 #75
... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #90
Kick SheltieLover Mar 2020 #76
Thank you. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #91
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