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In reply to the discussion: To those who STILL support Sanders: as I have previously posted, I agree with much [View all]Celerity
(47,737 posts)Dem is running) as he would be into his early NINETIES at the end of 2 terms. If he waits until 2028 he will be in his nineties for the the majority of his terms. Plus, odds are low he will even be alive. People in their 90's should not be in Congress or the POTUS as a general rule of thumb. Most are not up to the task. The track record is poor at that age. That is not ageist in the slightest to point that out. History more than completely backs me up.
There have only been 4 Senators to serve into their 90's ever (Feinstein will be the 5th if she sees out her term)
Carl Hayden (91 when he left)
Robert Byrd (92) Died in office
Theodore F. Green (93 when he left)
Strom Thurmond (100 when he left) Died around 6 months after he left
Only 1 House member ever in history, Ralph Hall, who retired in 2015 at 91, served into his 90's. He seemed to have his wits still, albeit he was a Rethug for years after he switch parties in 2004.
It is fantasy land that we can have all the ultra aged people running the country. It is a bad, bad trend IMHO. Byrd was damn near incapacitated at the end (he died in office), as was Thurmond. I know little about Hayden or Green's (Green was not healthy when he resigned) mental capacity at the end (Hayden was a wonderful Senator for years though). Feinstein never should have run for reelection, I voted against her (I voted for Kevin de León in both the primary and then the general) in the primary and was very disappointed she won. She outspent him by almost 20 million USD (he raised 1.6m, she raised almost 21.2m) and only won by around 8 points. She is way too much of a proponent of the surveillance state (big pusher for the FISA Act, Patriot Act, etc), just recently (as in 2018 recent) flipped from being pro death penalty, also flipped in 2018 from being a hardcore drug warrior for decades, was a key Dem driver for the Iraq War resolution, is in favour of government censorship of the internet (thank fuck Trump doesn't have that powernow!), and was the head Dem sponsor of the Amendment to make it a crime to desecrate the flag. She also said Trump could be a good president (10 months AFTER he was elected and after he was already tearing shit apart), and was against giving same sex partners (not married) immigration protections from discrimination. She is not my cuppa. Thankfully we have a Dem governor (Newsom) to appoint her replacement, if need be.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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