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so I know first hand what happened there. I'm curious to know what your personal Florida election campaign experience is? In addition, the University of Michigan's 2000 Florida ballots project documents, "In the United States presidential election of November 2000, approximately 180,000 ballots in Florida's 67 counties were uncertified because they failed to register a "valid" vote for president." According to Florida election law in 2000, just because the counting machines could not read these ballots, they still contained legal votes that Florida election law required be counted. These ballots were not counted because of Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris and the GOP controlled SCOTUS. I know this based on my personal Florida election campaign experience.

Also please don't lump today's progressive dems in with what Nader did in 2000. Today's progressive dems are actually dems. Nader has never been a dem and he ran on the Green party ticket in 2000 so he wasn't a dem then either. Nader ran in 2000 to help Bush and to cost Gore the election

The points I've raised in this thread are because of my actual personal Florida election campaign experience along with pointing out ugly facts that too many don't want to deal with.