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ancianita

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39. UPDATE: Anand Giridharadas' Interview with Faiz Shakir
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jan 27

Excerpts... to read the full interview, use this link.
https://the.ink/p/hard-truths-interview-faiz-shakir-democratic-national-committee-chair

Among the newer contenders is Faiz Shakir — former political director of the ACLU, the head of Bernie Sanders’ 2020 campaign, and current executive director of the media organization More Perfect Union.
Shakir offers a very different vision, of a DNC chair who can refocus the position and the party, with a commitment to rebuilding the Democrats’ traditional working-class base, putting the donor class in its place, and educating its elected members about how to negotiate the media landscape to speak honestly to voters about their needs and dreams...

Giridharadas: ...I feel like the space that has been opened up in the wake of this Trump victory is actually a really big, broad space. So I want to invite you now to fill that space with some of your hardest truths. What are the things that you want to tell people are true now, hard truths about how the Democratic Party has shown up? What are the reasons it shows up that way? And how is it going to have to change?

Shakir: ...My first reaction was, whoa, what the heck are these caucuses? Like, we’ve got to change this structure because very little purpose and meaning is going into this. We are telling people when they join the Democratic Party, “You worked hard, maybe you ran for something, you want it, and now you're a member of the DNC. Great. When you come to our winter meeting, summer meeting, whatever it might be, what do you do there?”

Nothing.

You actually go and join in a little group and you sit over there and you separate yourself out by skin color, or race, or identity, whatever it might be. And then you sit there and there's no mission or purpose.

I'm like, whoa, let's break this. How about mission and purpose? What are some? Well, obviously, you know, we're lacking for ambition there. So I'm going to offer a few...

...working-class people hold us in higher regard. They have a higher bar for us than they do for Republicans. They think of our historical lineage: You fight for the common person. That is what you are.

So I will penalize you greater if I don't feel like you are going to stick your necks out for me in a rigged economy in which I think I'm getting screwed over. And you’re the people who fought for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, I'm expecting you to bring it right now because we're swimming in a sea of selfishness and greed here. So you bring me your passion because I need you now. And when we don't meet it, they penalize us greater. They stay home. They say, hey, I'm out....

OK, this institution, call it the Democratic National Committee, whatever you want to say, labor union. When you have the devolution of power and it goes away from that to super PAC, ... OK, what happens?...

We have to have a conviction-oriented conversation.
So our brand is lacking it right now. It is a sense that the Democratic Party, very polite, very nice, but, you know, very slow, very lethargic, doesn't want to have honest conversations around the things that they truly believe.
So I'm not sure what you truly believe, when I see you agree on the Green New Deal here, now you're not, or you're interested in trans issues at this point, now you're seemingly not as interested.

In my mind, these are all easy to deal with if you have conviction and talk about it.
But when they see you not talking about them, you're going to get penalized.

So my view is that the things you're talking about — of not winning online with some of these forums — is downstream of the fact that upstream, decisions were made that we can not talk about these five things right now. Can we not discuss the challenge of immigration, the border crossings, and what they're doing in Chicago, and how they're hurting the social safety net there in schools and healthcare systems? So it's dicey. It's very difficult. I don't know what you'd have to say. Why don't we not say anything?

Well, people aren't dumb. They're watching. They're seeing that. And my view is that we can solve the downstream things of you being interesting online. But you're going to go on Joe Rogan (or Anand’s show), right? And you're going to get asked, “Hey, so a lot of people are interested in what's your view on border crossings? Has your view changed on that? It seems like back in the day you thought this thing, and now, maybe, do you still think that?”

You gotta answer that one. In my view — this is where I might feel differently than a lot of Democratic operatives — I'm like, I think people out there in the world have different ideologies and they're all over the map. What they're hunting for is, do you know where you stand with any degree of conviction and can you tell me that you believe that?

Like if Donald Trump was reading a poll, he's not gonna keep saying the election is rigged. Like Mr. President, that's a 30 percent issue. Why are you going out with that? He's like, sorry, I believe it. I'm gonna keep saying it. And then he gets rewarded by people who say, well, I don't agree with him, but he believes what he's saying. So he thinks the election was rigged, but I'm going to look past that and I'm going to look at some other things.

This is why I think a lot of people get too scared of talking, but just give me your orientation. Wherever.
On Gaza, Gaza is a great example. Just give me your orientation. You can be John Fetterman, you can be AOC, you can be Bernie Sanders.

Just tell me what you believe and say it.

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Martin O'Malley, smart , pragmatic, and not afraid to FSogol Jan 21 #1
I'm all in for Wikler!!! Yoyoyo77 Jan 21 #2
Reasons? ancianita Jan 21 #3
He had an interview w Brian Cohen Taylor. Wanted to reach out the voters in some different ways. Get voters more involve electric_blue68 Jan 24 #35
O'Malley Platform & 100 Day Plan jxla Jan 22 #19
I like the thoughtfulness of the 100 day plan. He is at least coming up with ideas that could be Nanjeanne Jan 23 #22
Marianne Williamson should get zero votes.n/t FSogol Jan 21 #4
Doesn't look as if she has any endorsements... here's a closer look, along with her political positions. ancianita Jan 21 #6
I got curious - Marianne's Plan for the DNC jxla Jan 23 #31
She seems clear on the "consultants" of the party, but "that will change" ... I don't know. What do you think? ancianita Jan 23 #33
agree msfiddlestix Jan 27 #43
Wikler. Absolutely no question about it. Bleacher Creature Jan 21 #5
Reasons? ancianita Jan 21 #7
His track record in Wisconsin speaks for itself. Bleacher Creature Jan 21 #12
Agree he'd be a good choice imaginary girl Jan 23 #34
I heard Martin on POD save America and he was saying the right things. Renew Deal Jan 21 #8
Martin's strength is fundraising iemanja Jan 26 #37
Pete Buttigieg. Because he can do anything. But he's not in the running. Scrivener7 Jan 21 #9
Second that! n/t DFW Jan 22 #16
I'm hoping for someone who isn't deeply entrenched... Think. Again. Jan 21 #10
AOC osteopath6 Jan 22 #15
She has a full time job already. n/t FSogol Jan 23 #25
Are vice chairs appointed or voted on? Im assuming FSogol Jan 22 #20
Vice Chairs Candidates jxla Jan 23 #21
Faiz Shakir: Donkees Jan 21 #11
Fair Shakir is who I want. The reasons are in Donkees post. As well as his interview Nanjeanne Jan 21 #13
Ben Wikler milestogo Jan 21 #14
I like Wikler as well. pinkstarburst Jan 22 #17
Obsession with Midwest is ridiculous kansasobama Jan 22 #18
Ok..as a Canadian, I am throwing this name out there... Fix The Stupid Jan 23 #23
Well, since you asked... ancianita Jan 23 #24
Attila the Hun BOSSHOG Jan 23 #26
lol cynical joke aside... ancianita Jan 23 #30
David Hogg FarPoint Jan 23 #27
A brawler Aviation Pro Jan 23 #28
Who will Stand up for Clean Water to Drink? Oneear Jan 23 #29
Maybe the former governor candidate? Governors tend to know how infrastructure repair in their states are handled. ancianita Jan 23 #32
Ben Wikler Wild blueberry Jan 25 #36
I don't see David Hogg's name on this list. Maybe it's my vision impairment? msfiddlestix Jan 27 #38
Glad you ask! David Hogg is running for Vice Chair. Emphasis here has been on the DNC Chair. ancianita Jan 27 #40
Oh right, thanks for the fact check! msfiddlestix Jan 27 #42
UPDATE: Anand Giridharadas' Interview with Faiz Shakir ancianita Jan 27 #39
Where are our women leaders? I don't see many on this list... CTyankee Jan 27 #41
I hear you. Let's ask all 28 of them. ancianita Jan 27 #44
MARC ELIAS INTERVIEWS KEN MARTIN, MARTIN O'MALLEY AND BEN WIKLER ON "What They'd Do Differently Moving Forward" ancianita Jan 28 #45
DNC 450 VOTE IS TOMORROW, FEB1! ancianita Jan 31 #46
TODAY: KEN MARTIN OF MINNEAPOLIS IS THE NEW DNC CHAIR -- How might his leadership impact The Way Forward? ancianita Feb 1 #47
He believes there is such as thing as a good billionaire. Passages Feb 1 #48
Truth is there are "good" billionaires - but it's a horrible message to be sending out. We only take $$$$$$ from "good" Nanjeanne Feb 1 #49
We can't take their money and have full independence. Passages Feb 2 #52
Exactly. Nanjeanne Feb 2 #53
Just remember, 82 of them backed Harris/Walz. Don't forget we're in oligarch wars now. ancianita Feb 1 #50
I understand that yet we must stand against that influence. Passages Feb 2 #51
That would be like standing against Citizens United, and thus shooting ourselves in the foot. ancianita Feb 2 #54
So, the Vice Chair became the DNC Chair. CoopersDad Feb 2 #55
Yes. He had Walz's endorsement along with lots of others. ancianita Feb 2 #56
Martin's strength is fundraising iemanja Feb 2 #57
2025 DNC leadership: ancianita Feb 3 #58
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