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The Way Forward
In reply to the discussion: Is it time for Antifa to organize into a formal political party? [View all]Think. Again.
(21,183 posts)198. Yes, what we saw in 2024 suggests we need to add to our ranks...
...with voters who are against fascism.
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I want us to join forces and share empowerment (and votes) with any and every group...
Think. Again.
Jan 26
#106
I'm paraphrasing Bernie Sanders here, but the two parties are literally the only two organizations
CrispyQ
Jan 26
#112
Sadly, the Democratic Party probably is the most focused anti-fascist organization we have. -nt
CrispyQ
Jan 27
#155
I disagree, non-military resistance to the nazis was vital in defeating them.
Think. Again.
Jan 26
#111
Hegseth was confirmed last night because of third party votes costing us a key senate seat
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 26
#103
The only 2 third party (independent) held seats in the Senate voted against hegseth.
Think. Again.
Jan 26
#109
part of their power & effectiveness is there is no individual leader/site/infrastructure to attack
cadoman
Jan 25
#48
Doesn't Antifa think the Democratic Party is fascist? At least that is what I have heard.
LeftInTX
Jan 26
#61
They have referred to the Democratic Party as fascist because we are organized. And now you say I'm
LeftInTX
Jan 26
#64
We are Democrats. By historical definition we've been anti-fascist since WW2.
OAITW r.2.0
Jan 26
#57
We should proudly say that we are anti-Fascist Democrats. But that seems redundant.
OAITW r.2.0
Jan 26
#60
"Just spitballing here ... what we need is a third party made up of organized anarchists and Democrats...
lapucelle
Jan 26
#82
Nah, not really. Advocating for a weird third "Antifa Party" or the co-option of the Democratic Party
lapucelle
Jan 26
#116
What does that even mean in the context of "Should antifa start a third party /
lapucelle
Jan 26
#126
The purpose of this forum is to discuss ideas as to how Democrats can win
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 26
#110
I live in the real world where votes for third parties only help the GOP
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 26
#123
I think you've figured it out. It is a sad plan, and it ONLY helps the GOP. I just want to know WHY *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 26
#134
LOL! Whenever I see anyone go to such great lengths to change the subject and/or *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#163
Backpedaling and pretending that what you ACTUALLY wrote is just our imagination.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#174
Yes. you've clearly shown support and advocated for "Antifa" becoming a "formal" party.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#179
LOL! If you're advocating for Antifa to "formally" become a political party *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#188
And I encourage YOU to tell the truth and stop advocating for Antifa to organize into a formal political party.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#190
Perhaps YOU should look at how idiotic third party voters cost us TWO elections in favor of Trump.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#194
You believe that third party ideology threatens Democratic party ideology?
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#267
Third parties siphon-off votes from Democrats, and that benefits the GOP in close elections.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 28
#294
Apparently, The Way Forward for Democrats involves the formation of a third party: The Antifa Party.
lapucelle
Jan 26
#138
Perhaps you don't understand that blending two parties makes one larger one.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#146
And it is my hope that people do not carelessly conflate "working with outside groups"
lapucelle
Jan 27
#186
Generally, people who stand by their words do not claim to be "misinterpreted"
lapucelle
Jan 27
#272
I only claimed to be misinterpreted when I was confronted by misinterpretations of my words.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#273
Nah, it was another "linguistic error" on your part. You also *believed* that Sanders and King belong to a third party.
lapucelle
Jan 27
#279
Indeed. It's pure insanity to advocate for third-parties. We know well that they split the vote and benefit the GOP *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 26
#133
That's not the question or the issue. Advocating for forming a third party is NOT the way to do it.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#154
LOL! Whenever I see anyone go to such great lengths to change the subject and/or *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#161
It absurd. In fact, you asked a very specific question wherein you're advocating for a third party.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#168
If you're advocating that they become a "formal" party then it will compete with Democrats and *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#182
LOL! Yes... they necessarily ARE. In our two-party system only ONE party wins the white house.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#192
I encourage you to join me in the real world and support the Democratic Party...
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#205
Actually, the point of your OP is to advocate "for Antifa to organize into a formal political party."
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#209
LOL! Just "asking a question" ... and then defending the question does not leave any room for *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#213
Nah, almost 3000 people have viewed it so far, maybe the idea will be considered.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#215
Spare me. You know perfectly well that "views" does not equate to the same number of individuals.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#216
No. Third parties siphon votes. "As I've said in this thread many times." 🙄
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#224
I disagree with your assumption that collaboration will draw Democrats away from the party.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#226
It's not an assumption. It's FACT that third parties siphon votes from Democrats.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#229
I am also amused by the inability or failure of the OP to answer any issues raised by his "question"
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#324
It is indeed amusing, and predictable. The problem is this: a direct answer and honest response *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 28
#325
Yet you have refused or are unable to answer basic questions about your OP
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#316
How is anyone supposed to take your "question" seriously if you have not looked at the issues raised?
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#321
I'm hoping for serious responses and discussion on the topic my questions raised.
Think. Again.
Jan 28
#327
What bullshit. Antifa is a violent anarchist group, and to even imply that the Democratic Party needs to employ the
JohnSJ
Jan 26
#80
No. But our party must define what it means, and underscore opposition to fascism using the acronym in context
msfiddlestix
Jan 26
#81
Considering 'Antifa' at most was like 250 students attending various west coast universities and started in the 10's
AZJonnie
Jan 26
#92
The way forward is not to help the GOP win with the formation of bogus third parties who will peal away votes
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 26
#117
LOL Yet you refused to answer basic questions about the new "formal political party"
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#315
I am sorry that you are unable to deal with the real-world issues raised by your "question"
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#323
66,388 Green Party voters in Pennsylvania brought you Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 26
#139
Then what purpose does it serve to add another third party to the ballot in the real world?
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 27
#235
Building a strong coalition of Pro-Democracy, Anti-fascist voters will....
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#242
LOL It is sad that you are unable and have failed on numerous occasions to explain your silly proposal
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#309
It is really sad that you are unable to explain your proposal or even deal with issues raised by your "question"
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#314
I am sorry that you are unable to deal with the real-world issues raised by your "question"
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#322
Read your OP, you want to form a "formal political party" for anti-fa supporters
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#296
FALSE. Although they are not affiliated with either party, they do not belong to an official "Independent Party."
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#200
I consider myself a part of the reality-based community where making-shit-up *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#207
I hate to be the one to tell you, my dear... but that's a very low measurement of "success".
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#217
3000 people have now heard my concern that we need to fight stronger against fascism.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#219
Clearly, you do not comprehend the difference between multiple "pageviews" from the same person *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#225
No that's false. The OP is promoting the idea of a separate "formal" Antifa party.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#237
I live in the real world. I know that third-party candidates siphon votes from Democratic candidates.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#246
LOL. If that were true, then there would be zero support of third-parties to siphon votes from Democrats.
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#249
My support for Pro-Democracy, Anti-fascist ideology is the clear basis of this OP.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#251
No, that's false. Anyone can clearly see that it's promoting the idea of an Antifa party *
Oopsie Daisy
Jan 27
#252
I don't believe collaborating with a new third party that shares our goals...
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#254
You will NOT deal with the facts that your silly proposal will only help trump and his fascists
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 27
#283
People who hate Democrats should really just be honest and join third parties (make LOTS third parties
betsuni
Jan 27
#264
Yeah, but my OP is about whether we (the U.S.) need a stronger position against fascism on our political stage.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#265
The OP is about whether or not it's time for Antifa to organize into a formal political party.
lapucelle
Jan 27
#281
"...or will the Democratic Party become focused enough to do what must be done?"
Think. Again.
Jan 28
#293
I'm watching this movie tonight called the Underground 1941 and it's about the Nazis and it's scary that it could
kimbutgar
Jan 27
#276
Yes, it is happening here, but so many don't want to face it, just like in germany in the 1930's.
Think. Again.
Jan 27
#277
The GOP will campaign on anti-fa being the bad guys if this silly proposal is adopted
LetMyPeopleVote
Jan 28
#326
Are we really setting our strategies around whether the rightwing will call us names?
Think. Again.
Jan 28
#331