The Way Forward

WarGamer

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13. that's a bit black and white.

Tue Jan 21, 2025, 07:27 PM

Jan 21

I want the US to withdraw enough to be a member of the "family of nations" and that doesn't mean isolated.

I don't want to be "Daddy"

We will always be unique just because of the economic power, etc... but we don't need to keep our hands in geopolitics.

I mean... we literally have a long history of propping up dictators, overthrowing leaders we don't like, arming adversaries... sometimes arming BOTH sides of a confrontation...

No more.

That's not isolationist. It's just hoping that the USA becomes more like Spain, Peru or Morocco.

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Act like Democrats. [View all] WarGamer Jan 21 OP

True. I didn't like the cozying up to Cheneys either ck4829 Jan 21 #1

I actually don't believe in a mono-polar world. WarGamer Jan 21 #2

Yeah the whole "Let's just forget about all the evil shit Putin does and be friends" is naive and foolish. BannonsLiver Jan 21 #3

that's a bit black and white. WarGamer Jan 21 #13

NATO isn't clean either osteopath6 Jan 22 #20

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MAGA light? BannonsLiver Jan 21 #15

I see that The Wandering Harper Jan 27 #41

Doesn't make it maga light though. BannonsLiver Jan 27 #42

that's a matter of opinion The Wandering Harper Jan 28 #46

Indeed. BannonsLiver Jan 28 #48

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They went that long because he deserved to rot in prison Mountainguy Jan 21 #17

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It's "canonized" dpibel Jan 21 #8

noted, tyvm. WarGamer Jan 21 #12

I agree that we need better candidates senseandsensibility Jan 21 #9

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You know what you're doing... WarGamer Jan 21 #14

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Opposition to war is not a right-wing talking point. Sailingfish Jan 22 #22

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All wars result in the death and murder of innocents. That's the point. Sailingfish Jan 22 #26

This osteopath6 Jan 21 #19

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Ok... WarGamer Jan 24 #29

Yeas, it was an allegory, but you still picked it as an example... As for Ukraine... electric_blue68 Jan 24 #30

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You've had some first hand experiences! Yeah, I've read about... electric_blue68 Jan 24 #32

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ONLY because they fought Red Mountain Jan 27 #43

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Acting like Democrats is challenging for some: Passages Jan 27 #45

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