The Way Forward

JHB

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50. 10-20 years? Please double that.

Tue Jan 28, 2025, 10:38 PM

Jan 28

It was Bill Clinton who acquiesced to Reaganomics, in much the same way that Eisenhower acquiesced to the basic New Deal structure, by emphasizing the need to be seen as "pro business" and working within the basic Reagan framework rather than pushing back. In the conditions of the time it may have seemed like the right move, but it undermined the Democratic Party's brand as "the party that looks out for the little guy". in retrospect, it has cost us repeatedly. It's the reason Hillary lost to Obama in the 2008 primaries, and Obama's going along with that perspective was a major factor in the 2010 "shellacking."

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Act like Democrats. [View all] WarGamer Jan 21 OP

True. I didn't like the cozying up to Cheneys either ck4829 Jan 21 #1

I actually don't believe in a mono-polar world. WarGamer Jan 21 #2

Yeah the whole "Let's just forget about all the evil shit Putin does and be friends" is naive and foolish. BannonsLiver Jan 21 #3

that's a bit black and white. WarGamer Jan 21 #13

NATO isn't clean either osteopath6 Jan 22 #20

Another thing to discuss is to fight "the man". We totally should go back to that. ck4829 Jan 21 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 21 #5

Peltier was convicted in 1977 dpibel Jan 21 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jan 21 #11

MAGA light? BannonsLiver Jan 21 #15

I see that The Wandering Harper Jan 27 #41

Doesn't make it maga light though. BannonsLiver Jan 27 #42

that's a matter of opinion The Wandering Harper Jan 28 #46

Indeed. BannonsLiver Jan 28 #48

If you can count the KNEECAP movie as a documentary? The Wandering Harper Jan 28 #49

They went that long because he deserved to rot in prison Mountainguy Jan 21 #17

I am not saying we should run Liz Cheney or Adam Kensinger for president. But we need somrone doc03 Jan 21 #7

It's "canonized" dpibel Jan 21 #8

noted, tyvm. WarGamer Jan 21 #12

I agree that we need better candidates senseandsensibility Jan 21 #9

Democrats aren't silencing speech!!! Lunabell Jan 21 #10

You know what you're doing... WarGamer Jan 21 #14

Are you talking about "cancel culture" here? dpibel Jan 21 #16

It's not the Democrats who are censoring. Lunabell Jan 21 #18

Opposition to war is not a right-wing talking point. Sailingfish Jan 22 #22

Well, just tell putin about this. Lunabell Jan 22 #23

The obsession with Putin from many is beyond laughable. Sailingfish Jan 22 #24

Obsessed with putin? Lunabell Jan 22 #25

All wars result in the death and murder of innocents. That's the point. Sailingfish Jan 22 #26

This osteopath6 Jan 21 #19

Haven't Dems got any youngsters with charisma??? ultralite001 Jan 22 #21

Dem leadership growing a spine needs to be the first step GoreWon2000 Jan 22 #27

Hmmm...you managed to irk both of my enthno origins... electric_blue68 Jan 23 #28

Ok... WarGamer Jan 24 #29

Yeas, it was an allegory, but you still picked it as an example... As for Ukraine... electric_blue68 Jan 24 #30

Here's what I think... not that it means much. WarGamer Jan 24 #31

You've had some first hand experiences! Yeah, I've read about... electric_blue68 Jan 24 #32

Opportunities will be readily available. WarGamer Jan 24 #33

Utterly delusional. BannonsLiver Jan 24 #34

Just wait and see... Ukraine will come out of this better than going in... in some ways. WarGamer Jan 24 #36

ONLY because they fought Red Mountain Jan 27 #43

I wish I was a fly on the wall during the pre-war negotiations. WarGamer Jan 27 #44

Bullshit. Why should a sovereign nation give up territory to a corrupt aggressive neighbor? FSogol Jan 24 #35

Look at a map or a globe and find a nation that's never given up territory in a war... I'll wait. WarGamer Jan 24 #37

What was the net gain from Liz Cheney? Nothing. Passages Jan 25 #38

I agree. KentuckyWoman Jan 25 #39

no flames here... WarGamer Jan 25 #40

Acting like Democrats is challenging for some: Passages Jan 27 #45

I'll just be God-DAMNED if I'll stop blaming the stupid fucking voters. Paladin Jan 28 #47

10-20 years? Please double that. JHB Jan 28 #50