The Way Forward

yellow dahlia

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42. I think you may not understand the purpose of my post.

Thu Jan 30, 2025, 05:58 PM

Jan 30

It is not because I take AOC's words "personally".

I made the post because I don't want the Democratic Party to make mistakes. I think it is a mistake to lose sight of the "big tent" party that they have been in the past. I don't see how the Democratic Party can be anything other than a "big tent" party. It is compromised of people from all walks of life, blah blah blah. We are drawn to the Democratic Party for their policies and the accomplishments they have made, as well as the accomplishments they strive for. Some vote for the Democratic Party because it represents "the lesser of two evils".

I think some of the rhetoric about remaking themselves is leading the Dems to a misguided paradigm shift. The idea that anyone would think they should remake themselves as brawlers, because that supposedly wins election, is some of that misguided rhetoric. (I don't believe that the Felonious Fucking Grifter won the election in a legit way.)

I don't expect the Democratic to "represent" me - I'm still going to vote for them. I want them to stop making mistakes...or looking for new mistakes to make. I want this Democracy to exist for future generations. I don't think identity politics is the way forward.

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I realize I may get some flack for this, but here goes. [View all] yellow dahlia Jan 29 OP

It appears to me gab13by13 Jan 29 #1

I totally disagree! tableturner Jan 29 #2

A. I did not say I think Dems aren't doing enough. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #13

you're right in a lot of what you say here. stopdiggin Jan 29 #3

What "brawler" means in AOC's context.... tableturner Jan 29 #7

I understand your point. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #15

Did you see my correction on my OP? yellow dahlia Jan 29 #27

and I agree with about 95% of what you had to say stopdiggin Jan 29 #34

The word choice is probably intended to evoke commitment. Frasier Balzov Jan 29 #4

IMHO, you missed her point. Phoenix61 Jan 29 #5

I agree...SCREW decorum! That's how the GOP kicks our asses! tableturner Jan 29 #10

I think the push back regarding the EO's in the past couple of days yellow dahlia Jan 29 #16

I needed to make a correction in my OP. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #18

I believe you might be wrongly hung up on the "middle class" thing. Think. Again. Jan 29 #6

"Ocasio-Cortez said, we need to be a party of brawlers for the working class." yellow dahlia Jan 29 #8

Cut and pasted from your OP above... Think. Again. Jan 29 #11

Your OP states it differently. Sailingfish Jan 29 #14

I have since realized that it wa indeed the phrase - "working class". yellow dahlia Jan 29 #20

Thanks. No apologies needed at all. Sailingfish Jan 29 #25

Thank you for your gracious reply. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #31

Cheers Sailingfish Jan 30 #38

Thanks for clearing that up! Sorry about the confusion. Think. Again. Jan 29 #35

My apologies. There was a typo in my OP. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #19

My take SilasSouleII Jan 29 #9

I'll agree. The word "brawlers" means a lot of things n I'm not getting hung up on a word. Her intent is more important Deuxcents Jan 29 #12

The phrase used by AOC was actually "working class. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #23

the middle class made this country? try again. NoRethugFriends Jan 29 #37

The Revolutionary War ... Xoan Jan 29 #17

Freedom riders. CoopersDad Jan 29 #22

Here is a more full transcript of the exchange. Context matters. CoopersDad Jan 29 #21

She used that phrase in more than one interview. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #24

and that is actually WAY more disappointing stopdiggin Jan 29 #36

How I'm reading it Lulu KC Jan 29 #26

Thank you for your input and thoughts. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #29

The notion that Democrats need to be brawlers is spot on, gab13by13 Jan 29 #28

I think the push back regarding the EO's in the past couple of days yellow dahlia Jan 29 #30

I like anyone that names themselves after a flower. Brogrizzly Jan 29 #32

Thank you. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #33

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. yellow dahlia Jan 31 #47

Working class for populists means rural white men in swing states who used to have good union manufacturing jobs betsuni Jan 30 #39

Right. The Biden/Harris administration implemented policies yellow dahlia Jan 31 #48

I don't know. Elessar Zappa Jan 30 #40

What if we are all of the above (or many of the above) - TBF Jan 30 #41

I think you may not understand the purpose of my post. yellow dahlia Jan 30 #42

So, would you prefer a polite and timid Bettie Jan 31 #43

I never said anything about polite and timid response. And I never said yellow dahlia Jan 31 #44

I feel like your concerns have some merit, however I wouldn't fret over attention to the working class emphasis.so long msfiddlestix Jan 31 #45

I agree with you that Democrats shouldn't be narrowing their representation to particular groups. Paladin Jan 31 #46