The Way Forward
In reply to the discussion: Bernie's policies? Was he right all along? [View all]JohnSJ
(97,246 posts)2016 refused to vote for Hillary in the general election, along with others such as susan sarandon, and why did they encourage others to do likewise? His judgement was too good when he picked those people it seems, and there was no ambiguity what was at stake then, THE SUPRME COURT.
It didn't take much either.
In every swing state Hillary lost by less than 1%, while in those critical swing states Jill Stein received 1% of the vote.
The "Democratic Party needs to change"? nonesense. These suppossed self-identified progressives, who don't like to be identified as Democrats better screw their heads on straight. It isn't the "either my way or the highway" bullshit.
If you are part of the Democratic Party then you work within the Democratic party, and that MEANS that if there is disagreements among Democrats they work together through those disagreements, and if in the end on some issues they don't prevail, you don't take your marbles and go away, or in this case not vote.
For gosh sakes, how stupid are people anyway.
Biden was the first President to walk a picket line, and along with Harris was as pro-labor as they come, yet labor split the vote between the sociopath and VP Harris. It isn't because the Democrats had the wrong message, it is because labor themselves were their own worst enemy. They did the same thing by voting for Reagan over Carter. That worked out real well for them, and was the beginning of the corporate anti-union movement.
Then there was the Latino's who split the vote between the sociopath and VP Harris. We will see how that works out if god forbid the sociopath's actual deportation plans are realized.
and last but not least the protesters, who were angry with Biden because after the October 7 slaughter he sent weapons to Israel, instead of doing what THEY wanted, to boycott Israel. An overwhelming bipartisan Congress was against that. In addition, the Problem with that logic is that Biden/Harris were constantly pushing for a ceasefire, return of hostages, and back to the negotiating tables. That wasn't good enough for hamas, Israel, etc. so the protesters so they decided to play the same game that was played in 2016. We will see how that works out for them.
The problem is there are interests within the Democratic party who if they don't get there way, they won't vote or vote third party.
On most of the issues, abortion, the environment, minimum wage, social security, medicare, healthcare, women rights, workers rights, civil rights, etc. the Democrats are on the same page, and there is NO AMBIGUITY WHERE THEY STAND.
The Democratic Party is NOT THE PROBLEM.