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The Way Forward

JohnSJ

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21. I wasn't referring to Bernie. I believe you said something to the effect that the neocons in the D party maligned

Reply to Clouds Passing (Reply #20)

Wed Jan 22, 2025, 10:38 AM

Jan 22

Biden, and I was pointing out it wasn't just what you refer to as "neocons" in the D party, but there were members in the D progressive caucus who not only maligned Biden, but also went out of their way publicly announce that they would NOT endorse Biden and subsequently Harris in the November 5 election.

that is a similar problem that occurred in the 2016 general election, where those with that same thinking refused to vote for Hillary in the general election by either not voting or voting third party, and it didn't take much to effect the election.

The Democratic party has always been an inclusive party, and that has been its strength and weakness, and the weakness is when those within the party instead of coming together in spite of some differences, take their marbles and walk away.

The modern Democratic party since Kennedy in general has always stood for Civil RIghts, Workers RIghts, Women's rights, the environment, social security, medicare, healthcare rights, a fair minimum wage, etc. etc. etc., and there is no ambiguity on those issues where the Democratic party stands verses the republicans.

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Bernie's policies? Was he right all along? [View all] LilElf70 Jan 21 OP

Mostly, yes... WarGamer Jan 21 #1

Bernie has always Faux pas Jan 21 #2

Indeed!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 22 #34

I have always agreed with Bernie's policies... Think. Again. Jan 21 #3

Yep!! He's been the one all along. wordstroken Jan 21 #4

I thought it was a good listen LilElf70 Jan 21 #5

Bernie has always been an FDR independent. I wish the D party would move toward FDRs and Bernie's policies. Clouds Passing Jan 21 #6

Ya know, I always thought LilElf70 Jan 21 #7

Her was smeared pretty well by some members of the progressive caucus, so much so that some refused to endorse him or JohnSJ Jan 21 #11

Bernie endorsed both Hilary and Kamala Clouds Passing Jan 22 #20

I wasn't referring to Bernie. I believe you said something to the effect that the neocons in the D party maligned JohnSJ Jan 22 #21

It's not Democratic neocons. They're neo-liberals. Weird name for economic globalists. hedda_foil Jan 22 #22

Meant neo-liberals. Clouds Passing Jan 22 #35

True. hedda_foil Jan 22 #38

Why didn't Nina Turner, David Sirota, Briahana Joy Gray, Cornell West, etc. who were integral part of his campaign in JohnSJ Jan 21 #8

Agreed. This sounds so much like B.See Jan 22 #17

YES - the point is the ideas. TBF Jan 21 #9

We can start with LilElf70 Jan 21 #10

100% on both - and I really wanted AOC for that role. nt TBF Jan 22 #24

Really? Martin68 Jan 21 #12

Actually, Hillary Clinton was right all along ismnotwasm Jan 21 #13

She was right about most things. Bluepinky Jan 22 #19

He voted against the USA PATRIOT Act, too. intheflow Jan 22 #23

He also voted multiple times against The Magnitsky Act, and voted for and boasted about the Crime Bill his emulatorloo Jan 22 #29

She voted for Iraq War, he voted against it, just as I stated. Bluepinky Jan 22 #37

She wasn't right when as a senator, she voted for the defense of marriage act. Lunabell Jan 22 #27

THANK YOU Skittles Jan 23 #41

As much as I appreciate all the feedback, LilElf70 Jan 21 #14

Thanks! You nailed it. nt TBF Jan 22 #25

Yes osteopath6 Jan 22 #15

And he's not against using his powder! GPV Jan 22 #32

Agreed! osteopath6 Jan 23 #39

I voted for Bernie in 16 and 20. He has it right. scipan Jan 22 #16

Part of the the reason LilElf70 Jan 22 #18

They wanted change with Obama & TBF Jan 22 #26

That is it osteopath6 Jan 23 #40

Bernie has good ideas, but lacks the skills to make concrete plans to implement them. emulatorloo Jan 22 #28

Yep. He was right all along. N/t Peregrine Took Jan 22 #30

BERNIE sure as hell was right before the Ukraine invasion... WarGamer Jan 22 #31

Yes. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 22 #33

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