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Bluetus

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59. Some percentage did, but that's completely beside the big picture
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jan 24

Last edited Fri Jan 24, 2025, 08:13 PM - Edit history (1)

150 million eligible voters NEVER vote. Why not?

It isn't because Kamala was black or a woman. These people didn't vote when Gore was running, Kerry, Hillary, and not even Obama for the most part.

Some are just dumb asses that care more about football or soccer than their kids' health, education or their own retirement security. We can't do too much about that.

But there are 50 million out there who don't vote because they simply don't believe it will make a difference. Democrats have the "college debate team" disease with a few exceptions (Warren, AOC, and , well Katie is out of Congress, so that's about the complete list.) There are plenty of great Dems who have the best of intentions, but they can't get through a 30-second elevator pitch in 90 minutes.

And if they ever get to the point, they can't seem to put in terms that most Americans can understand.

Example: Putin has invaded Ukraine. OK, so what? How does that affect me personally? Why should I care?

If you can't answer that question in 25 words or fewer, you have lost the audience. Some won't vote at all. Others will vote for Trump when he says, "I'm going to deport all the brown people and that will keep you safe from murderers and rapists." That took 19 words and 6 seconds. OK it had some lies. We can use the other 9 seconds to tell the truth. But if you can't get attention in 15 seconds, you lose.

For decades, Dems have groused about how the media gave more airtime to crazy Republicans. But they kept the audiences awake. The networks just couldn't package a Democrat basically reading a white paper in monotone, and their audiences didn't respond to that.

This part of the DU is called "The Way Forward". Let me plant an idea you can stick a pin in, so to speak. If we keep trotting out Beltway creatures to run for high office, we will lose. A name to watch is Mark Cuban. I am not necessarily a fan, but I believe he is seriously thinking of getting onto the political stage to try to fill the void left by generations of Dems who spend 10% of their time saying nothing and the other 90% apologizing for being too forceful. I'm not saying a Cuban candidacy would be a good or a bad thing, but it would certainly cause some people to pay attention, for a change.

There is no natural law that says leaders have to be lawyers and must be steeped and aged for many years in the "Beltway way of doing things." In the first half of this country's history, it was common for Presidents to never have attended law school. Now it seems almost mandatory for a Presidential candidate to be a lawyer. And I'd argue that is a big part of why we can't communicate with average people and why Trump can. I would also point out that Ronald Reagan and Volodymyr Zelenskyy came from an entertainment background. So, think about Cuban. It is not as far-fetched as it may sound.

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WTF these people. Where is the lack of integrity.... what crap. I dont want him running my party. LizBeth Jan 23 #1
And people keep telling us - - this is what the party needs to WIN .... stopdiggin Jan 23 #14
I thought Biden and Harris had plenty of integrity... Evolve Dammit Jan 23 #2
lack of integrity means bernie was not nominated lol nt msongs Jan 23 #3
exactly comradebillyboy Jan 24 #37
Compared to what other political party in this country? BOSSHOG Jan 23 #4
Yeah JustAnotherGen Jan 23 #5
I should look it up, but who selects the chair? Anyway, I would hope they listen to numerous views. Silent Type Jan 23 #6
He says in the video that no votes have been cast yet, and of course as we know it's DNC members who vote. betsuni Jan 24 #18
It seems like there are a few DUers who erroneously think comradebillyboy Jan 24 #38
Sounds like a repuke to me SheltieLover Jan 23 #7
Fetterman Tetrachloride Jan 23 #8
The major problem with Bernie was his associates Keepthesoulalive Jan 23 #9
Gee who hired those folks for Bernie? comradebillyboy Jan 24 #39
Lack of Integrity? Zackzzzz Jan 23 #10
I don't know that he can win, but he is 100% right. Bluetus Jan 23 #11
You are wrong. There is no lack of integrity of our candidates. FSogol Jan 23 #13
you are way too kind. "bollocks" - would be quite adequate and sufficient here ... -(nt)- stopdiggin Jan 24 #15
Read the post again. You don't understand the context of "integrity" Bluetus Jan 24 #16
Context? How does context change the definition of a word? Phoenix61 Jan 24 #31
That's not the only definition. Integrity requires providing the full picture. Bluetus Jan 24 #36
Oh BS! PortTack Jan 24 #54
Well we'll just skip over lack of vote integrity, gerrymandering, and voter suppression, voter purges, etc.. 58Sunliner Jan 24 #17
I have never voted for Bernie. I didn't even know this guy was associated with Bernie Bluetus Jan 24 #23
Integrity was definitely a poor choice of words. CrispyQ Jan 24 #29
It feels like you are gaslighting me. A process goof? 58Sunliner Jan 24 #47
The dems have gotten too repub light for my taste burrowowl Jan 24 #24
The only thing in the middle of the road is road kill Bluetus Jan 24 #28
The so-called things ... littlemissmartypants Jan 24 #40
Nobody voted for the middle of the road. Bluetus Jan 24 #42
We ignore the growing number of unaffiliated voters... littlemissmartypants Jan 24 #44
I fully agree Bluetus Jan 24 #50
No ...you are missing simple big picture here. We lost because this country is racist sexist and bigoted PortTack Jan 24 #55
Some percentage did, but that's completely beside the big picture Bluetus Jan 24 #59
Something I would expect from him. RandySF Jan 23 #12
What a hit job Cirsium Jan 24 #19
How exactly is the Democratic Party not the party of the working class? betsuni Jan 24 #20
Ok..here's an example... Fix The Stupid Jan 24 #21
What Republican policies help the working class? Give some examples. betsuni Jan 24 #26
It's not that. It's that the ... littlemissmartypants Jan 24 #41
Allow me to bluster a little bit off the theme. Nothing personal here. Sailingfish Jan 24 #46
That is not what was said Cirsium Jan 24 #30
People really should listen to the interview. He says "there is a lack of integrity ABOUT the DNC BRAND" Nanjeanne Jan 24 #22
I agree. Let's not be a part of the problem. Too many people get their news in soundbites and memes tulipsandroses Jan 24 #33
The f***? Srsly. Have they seen Trump? TBF Jan 24 #25
Omfg kerouac2 Jan 24 #27
In his defense, I think that one line is poorly stated. I listened to everything else after that statement tulipsandroses Jan 24 #32
there are a substantial number of people who question the integrity of both of the major parties. everyonematters Jan 24 #34
Talk to the Republican Supreme Court about that one. Keepthesoulalive Jan 24 #48
This person should not be in leadership at the DNC LetMyPeopleVote Jan 24 #35
Integrity definition... hint...there's more than one... littlemissmartypants Jan 24 #43
GOOD GRIEF He NEVER says the Democratic Party is suffering from a "lack of integrity". The headline Nanjeanne Jan 24 #45
There is nothing wrong with our message Keepthesoulalive Jan 24 #49
It not integrity its lower.... Historic NY Jan 24 #51
Go away Shakir. JohnSJ Jan 24 #52
I feel I'm part of the Democratic Party. LakeArenal Jan 24 #53
Load of crap milestogo Jan 24 #56
This guy is awful. Thank God he has no chance of winning the position Wiz Imp Jan 24 #57
The lack of integrity, such as it is, is because of corporate ties. alarimer Jan 24 #58
Shakir and his populist pals are the ones bashing Democrats as THEM (corrupt, not grassroots beholden to betsuni Jan 25 #60
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