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polichick

(37,626 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 12:52 PM Sep 2024

It's preposterous that the sitting US Vice President should spend...

…even one second “debating” a sociopathic malignant narcissist who has been found guilty of sexual abuse and 34 felony counts - in addition to absconding with classified documents and attempting a coup in plain sight.

Every level of government and all agencies have failed to hold one treasonous individual accountable and off the presidential stage.



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It's preposterous that the sitting US Vice President should spend... (Original Post) polichick Sep 2024 OP
It's beneath the dignity of the office, that's for sure Blue Owl Sep 2024 #1
Her first answer, should be, "I don't debate felons." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2024 #38
Recommended... Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 #2
I totally agree. Glorfindel Sep 2024 #3
i just look at it as part of her job description samnsara Sep 2024 #4
Wasn't she the one demanding it ? MichMan Sep 2024 #5
The point is we should never have reached this place... polichick Sep 2024 #6
Yup, most of government is afraid of the Orange Menace, and I will never understand why. Magoo48 Sep 2024 #8
Totally agree. This piece of garbage shouldn't be within 2000 miles of power. hadEnuf Sep 2024 #10
Agreed. Frank D. Lincoln Sep 2024 #14
It's not the responsibility of the government to deny Trump power, the responsibility is ours. tritsofme Sep 2024 #21
I agree 💯 Dem4life1970 Sep 2024 #7
THIS malaise Sep 2024 #9
Maybe so ... but why did Joe Biden agree to debate him? FakeNoose Sep 2024 #11
imo it was a mistake for Pres. Biden to agree to "debate" a criminal... polichick Sep 2024 #16
When I said this I was alerted on for bashing Democrats. MotownPgh Sep 2024 #29
That's why I said "imo" - but I've been alerted on for opinions too. polichick Sep 2024 #30
It's trump DownriverDem Sep 2024 #31
Yep. But that is where we are. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #12
I think as the Vice President she is entitled to ask him some questions tavernier Sep 2024 #13
That would be perfect! polichick Sep 2024 #18
I totally agree Ohioboy Sep 2024 #15
He's gotten away with murder for some time now ailsagirl Sep 2024 #53
It is beneath the dignity of anyone to be on the same debate stage with him. Katinfl Sep 2024 #17
It's not a debate. ananda Sep 2024 #19
Agree Katinfl Sep 2024 #20
No fact-checkers Seinan Sensei Sep 2024 #43
Precisely because THIS is where we are... RevBrotherThomas Sep 2024 #22
It is unbelievable surfered Sep 2024 #23
Well said. BoomaofBandM Sep 2024 #24
It truly boggles the mind!! young_at_heart Sep 2024 #25
..and a little depressing that those people who actually LIKE.. chouchou Sep 2024 #26
Totally agree, polichick Deuxcents Sep 2024 #27
My thoughts exactly kwolf68 Sep 2024 #28
It is preposterous and yet true Tweedy Sep 2024 #32
could not agree more 4catsmom Sep 2024 #33
Debate my ASS!! damifino10 Sep 2024 #34
What you said! Different Drummer Sep 2024 #40
I hope she ends every sentence with "convicted of 34 felonies, stole top secret louis-t Sep 2024 #35
spot on. Evolve Dammit Sep 2024 #36
He shouldn't bdamomma Sep 2024 #37
This is a complete failure of the GOP RainCaster Sep 2024 #39
I see this as closure potential on his ERA. Brainfodder Sep 2024 #41
If I ForgedCrank Sep 2024 #42
Announce "I don't debate felons," and walk out of the studio. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2024 #44
Only in America Dem4life1234 Sep 2024 #45
The good news is AdamGG Sep 2024 #46
If he even lives that long mdbl Sep 2024 #48
Right on! mdbl Sep 2024 #47
She needs to proudly say yes America is better off now than 4 years ago IronLionZion Sep 2024 #49
lipstick poozwah Sep 2024 #50
Fighting evil is part of her job. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #51
Absolutely right, and thank you for stating FalloutShelter Sep 2024 #52
This is pathetic PJMcK Sep 2024 #54
It gave people an opportunity to get to know her iemanja Sep 2024 #55
The psycho should not be in the running for President, but here we are. 1/3 of this fucked up country thing he's great. OverBurn Sep 2024 #56
Republicans have been committing TREASON DENVERPOPS Sep 2024 #57
Yep - there's a reason that the Mueller Report was filed away... polichick Sep 2024 #58

Blue Owl

(55,013 posts)
1. It's beneath the dignity of the office, that's for sure
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 12:55 PM
Sep 2024

But then the M$M has set the bar so low they are actually OK with this criminal sex offender taking the reins -- it is mind-numbing and disturbing.

38. Her first answer, should be, "I don't debate felons."
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:16 PM
Sep 2024

Only the Secret Service will know ahead of time her intentions. Silently she'll turn her back to T***p, stride from the studio, get into the car and leave. Even her staff won't know what's happening until she gets in the car and hands her chief of staff a note: "For your eyes only, Set up an interview with only the debate moderators and myself for the same network at the same time. Do not communicate with TFG's staff."

It will be a debate for the history books.

Dennis Donovan

(28,048 posts)
2. Recommended...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 12:56 PM
Sep 2024


MAGA and MAGA-adjacent GOPers failed America during the 2nd Impeachment trial. It's on their heads if he manages to win.

Glorfindel

(10,005 posts)
3. I totally agree.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 12:56 PM
Sep 2024

Engaging with that criminal acknowledges and dignifies him to a degree he does NOT deserve.

MichMan

(13,743 posts)
5. Wasn't she the one demanding it ?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:03 PM
Sep 2024

Seems like her campaign said that it had already been agreed to with Joe Biden and that Harris was considered to be a continuation of that agreement.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
6. The point is we should never have reached this place...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:08 PM
Sep 2024

The entire US gov’t has failed to hold one man accountable and away from power.

Magoo48

(5,630 posts)
8. Yup, most of government is afraid of the Orange Menace, and I will never understand why.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:55 PM
Sep 2024

hadEnuf

(2,850 posts)
10. Totally agree. This piece of garbage shouldn't be within 2000 miles of power.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:58 PM
Sep 2024

The fact that he is even in the running is an absolute mockery of the American system of government.

The press is also a lost cause. Yellow journalism doesn't even come close anymore. 97% tabloid crap, 3% actual news. Time for a redo of what can actually be called news.

Frank D. Lincoln

(713 posts)
14. Agreed.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:21 PM
Sep 2024

These people are the main ones:

Mitch McConnell had the power to have Trump convicted after that second impeachment and Trump would have been barred from running for public office again.

Merrick Garland waited way too long to assign a special prosecutor to go after Trump for J6.

SCOTUS (because of the six conservative justices) failed to disqualify Trump under the 14th amendment insurrection clause, deliberately slow-walked the case, and then gave Trump presidential immunity that's not even in the U.S. Constitution.

It's mainly because of them that our backs are now against the wall to defend our democracy from a wannabe tyrant.

If I had the power, I'd outlaw the Republican Party.

tritsofme

(18,736 posts)
21. It's not the responsibility of the government to deny Trump power, the responsibility is ours.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:47 PM
Sep 2024

FakeNoose

(36,193 posts)
11. Maybe so ... but why did Joe Biden agree to debate him?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:00 PM
Sep 2024

We didn't choose the R candidate - they did. Yes Chump is completely unqualified, and many would say he's also DISQUALIFIED due to his recent felony convictions. What I know for sure is that Chump was the worst president in the history of our country. Why would anyone even want him back? Why would they consider voting for him? It boggles my mind.

In spite of this, Kamala will show her spirit and her gumption tonight, she will show the country how unfit Chump really is. I believe the MAGAs will be watching and they're going to be shocked when they see that Chump can't do anything except scream lies and false accusations.

Tonight will be the point where even the true-blue Repukes are going to turn off their TV sets because they can't stand him anymore.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
16. imo it was a mistake for Pres. Biden to agree to "debate" a criminal...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:33 PM
Sep 2024

But then, imo it was a mistake for Pres. Biden to keep Merrick Garland in place when there was no action on the Mueller Report or high level arrests after January 6th.

tavernier

(13,312 posts)
13. I think as the Vice President she is entitled to ask him some questions
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:16 PM
Sep 2024

I would start with:

Mr. Trump, with what individuals, and from what countries, did you share America’s classified, top secret documents after you illegally removed them from the White House?

Ohioboy

(3,538 posts)
15. I totally agree
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:28 PM
Sep 2024

He should have been disqualified to ever run again at his first impeachment.

ailsagirl

(23,928 posts)
53. He's gotten away with murder for some time now
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 09:03 AM
Sep 2024

He's a bully and he's found that the more belligerent he is, the more beneficial it is for him.
Until now.

Katinfl

(276 posts)
17. It is beneath the dignity of anyone to be on the same debate stage with him.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:33 PM
Sep 2024

Biden and Kamala surely deserve a worthy opponent and they are not getting it. Same with Hillary. This is so beneath all of them but, sadly, it is necessary.

ananda

(31,043 posts)
19. It's not a debate.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:43 PM
Sep 2024

Trump will follow no rules.

He will not answer any question directly.

He will offer no policy.

It will be just one gishgallop after another
full of a string of lies...

And there will be no fact checking.

young_at_heart

(3,871 posts)
25. It truly boggles the mind!!
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 03:42 PM
Sep 2024

Just thinking about this absurd situation makes my head explode......really!

chouchou

(1,506 posts)
26. ..and a little depressing that those people who actually LIKE..
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 03:49 PM
Sep 2024

...the sociopathic malignant narcissist who has been found guilty of sexual abuse and 34 felony counts.

I've said this before: (I was a world traveler...My Job..not my wonderful-ness) .
There's a few people I talk/phone to and they ALWAYS say something like>> What the hell is going on over there?
I stammer around trying to say something intelligent and thoughtful....I really want to say: I want my Mommie..

Tweedy

(1,231 posts)
32. It is preposterous and yet true
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 04:13 PM
Sep 2024

I disagree with the rest of your statement, though. It is overbroad.

Every agency has not failed because it is not every agency’s duty to examine any of this.

Every part of government has not failed because attempts to hold Mr. Trump accountable are proceeding as we speak despite the supreme court’s corrupt intervention to invent for Mr. Trump an immunity not even English monarchs enjoyed (see Charles lost his head and the Long Parliament).

Every part of government controlled (still!) by Mr. Trump’s sycophants (there is no conservative/non MAGA party extant inside the GOP today) has worked solely to give Mr. Trump a get out of jail free pass for every act of criminality he committed.

IMHO we need to name and shame those responsible for this travesty (looking at you Justice Roberts). Blaming democrats in this instance is self defeating and will not change a single thing.

.

4catsmom

(350 posts)
33. could not agree more
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 04:33 PM
Sep 2024

the fact that people are 'undecided' about who to vote for just astonishes me. it's like saying you can't decide between the local child molester or your grandmother to babysit your kids.

damifino10

(49 posts)
34. Debate my ASS!!
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:28 PM
Sep 2024

Please, quit calling these fiascos debates. Nothing is debated. Moderators never make them "ANSWER THE QUESTION!"
Pathetic BS and we are forced to continue an out dated form of letting the contestents run the theater.
Chaps my ass they call these things debates.

louis-t

(23,817 posts)
35. I hope she ends every sentence with "convicted of 34 felonies, stole top secret
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:29 PM
Sep 2024

classified documents and wouldn't give them back."

bdamomma

(66,882 posts)
37. He shouldn't
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:51 PM
Sep 2024

even be there, he should be in prison. Where he truly belongs, let's make that happen.

RainCaster

(11,733 posts)
39. This is a complete failure of the GOP
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:22 PM
Sep 2024

The fact that this is the best they have to offer shows how pathetic that party has become.

Brainfodder

(7,181 posts)
41. I see this as closure potential on his ERA.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:09 PM
Sep 2024

Flush this dildo come to life out of politics.

This is what I think gets lost to Republicans:

We just don't want this jackass grifter as our president and it is just THAT FUCKING SIMPLE!

This one guy.... I'd rather Clint Eastwood or any other obnoxious Republican be POTUS than this particular SHIT!


ForgedCrank

(2,455 posts)
42. If I
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:09 PM
Sep 2024

am understanding you correctly, you don't think the American voters deserve to see our candidate for President of the United States speak in front of opposition? I think they do, and I have every bit of confidence that she will do just fine. And besides, every time Trump is in front of a camera, he does even more damage to himself.

44. Announce "I don't debate felons," and walk out of the studio.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:28 PM
Sep 2024

Arrange an interview with Harris and the moderators only the next day.

AdamGG

(1,536 posts)
46. The good news is
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:36 AM
Sep 2024

when he loses and is next tried, the Republicans will probably have less interest in helping him.

mdbl

(5,560 posts)
48. If he even lives that long
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 06:12 AM
Sep 2024

We can only hope. I keep sending him Big Macs and Large Fries.

IronLionZion

(47,315 posts)
49. She needs to proudly say yes America is better off now than 4 years ago
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 07:57 AM
Sep 2024

She gave some metrics and her plans and stories but the confident yes Americans are better now than with TSF needs to be said often and clearly.

poozwah

(278 posts)
50. lipstick
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 08:17 AM
Sep 2024

the republicans have made an elephant that looks exactly like a pig. there is not enough lipstick for this pig. there is not enough spin they can generate to change the fact that the man they claim was sent by god is nothing more than a rapist, a fraud, and an unparalleled liar. they will try and,in some areas, they will succeed which brings me to the following quote by h. l. mencken:

“On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

Irish_Dem

(60,859 posts)
51. Fighting evil is part of her job.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 08:19 AM
Sep 2024

She had to show us she could stand up to Trump and the GOP.

FalloutShelter

(12,912 posts)
52. Absolutely right, and thank you for stating
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 08:26 AM
Sep 2024

This so plainly.
It is an absolute disgrace that one entire political party ,with an obvious assist from the MSM, is absolutely A-okay with the monster they have nominated for the highest office in the land.
It breaks my bran. It still shocks me.

PJMcK

(23,194 posts)
54. This is pathetic
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 09:04 AM
Sep 2024

Nearly 40% of the country supports a criminal and a traitor for President. What kind of people do that?

iemanja

(55,066 posts)
55. It gave people an opportunity to get to know her
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 09:04 AM
Sep 2024

which they didn't before. It was a big win for Harris all the way around.

OverBurn

(1,119 posts)
56. The psycho should not be in the running for President, but here we are. 1/3 of this fucked up country thing he's great.
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 11:20 AM
Sep 2024

I'll never understand, it boggles the mind. The debates must happen though, to think otherwise is nonsense. The orange one must be debated, so the uninformed, living under a rock, undecided voter can see what a unfit loon he is.

DENVERPOPS

(10,347 posts)
57. Republicans have been committing TREASON
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:42 PM
Sep 2024

to win elections since the Carter/Reagan election.....Then 2000 and 2004, then Trump soliciting help from Putin via the NRA......

Some here have been shouting from the rooftops since we became knowledgeable of what they did in the Carter Election.....and following every move of theirs since then......

polichick

(37,626 posts)
58. Yep - there's a reason that the Mueller Report was filed away...
Wed Sep 11, 2024, 12:58 PM
Sep 2024

with no obstruction charges, even under “Biden’s” doj. That the 2000+ leads regarding Kavanaugh have still seen no action. And that no high level Jan. 6 planners have been charged, also under this doj. Etc., etc., etc.

Trump is not the only con being perpetrated against the American people.

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