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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's preposterous that the sitting US Vice President should spend...
even one second debating a sociopathic malignant narcissist who has been found guilty of sexual abuse and 34 felony counts - in addition to absconding with classified documents and attempting a coup in plain sight.
Every level of government and all agencies have failed to hold one treasonous individual accountable and off the presidential stage.
Blue Owl
(55,013 posts)But then the M$M has set the bar so low they are actually OK with this criminal sex offender taking the reins -- it is mind-numbing and disturbing.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,019 posts)Only the Secret Service will know ahead of time her intentions. Silently she'll turn her back to T***p, stride from the studio, get into the car and leave. Even her staff won't know what's happening until she gets in the car and hands her chief of staff a note: "For your eyes only, Set up an interview with only the debate moderators and myself for the same network at the same time. Do not communicate with TFG's staff."
It will be a debate for the history books.
Dennis Donovan
(28,048 posts)MAGA and MAGA-adjacent GOPers failed America during the 2nd Impeachment trial. It's on their heads if he manages to win.
Glorfindel
(10,005 posts)Engaging with that criminal acknowledges and dignifies him to a degree he does NOT deserve.
samnsara
(18,337 posts)MichMan
(13,743 posts)Seems like her campaign said that it had already been agreed to with Joe Biden and that Harris was considered to be a continuation of that agreement.
polichick
(37,626 posts)The entire US govt has failed to hold one man accountable and away from power.
Magoo48
(5,630 posts)hadEnuf
(2,850 posts)The fact that he is even in the running is an absolute mockery of the American system of government.
The press is also a lost cause. Yellow journalism doesn't even come close anymore. 97% tabloid crap, 3% actual news. Time for a redo of what can actually be called news.
Frank D. Lincoln
(713 posts)These people are the main ones:
Mitch McConnell had the power to have Trump convicted after that second impeachment and Trump would have been barred from running for public office again.
Merrick Garland waited way too long to assign a special prosecutor to go after Trump for J6.
SCOTUS (because of the six conservative justices) failed to disqualify Trump under the 14th amendment insurrection clause, deliberately slow-walked the case, and then gave Trump presidential immunity that's not even in the U.S. Constitution.
It's mainly because of them that our backs are now against the wall to defend our democracy from a wannabe tyrant.
If I had the power, I'd outlaw the Republican Party.
tritsofme
(18,736 posts)Dem4life1970
(617 posts)malaise
(279,515 posts)Rec
FakeNoose
(36,193 posts)We didn't choose the R candidate - they did. Yes Chump is completely unqualified, and many would say he's also DISQUALIFIED due to his recent felony convictions. What I know for sure is that Chump was the worst president in the history of our country. Why would anyone even want him back? Why would they consider voting for him? It boggles my mind.
In spite of this, Kamala will show her spirit and her gumption tonight, she will show the country how unfit Chump really is. I believe the MAGAs will be watching and they're going to be shocked when they see that Chump can't do anything except scream lies and false accusations.
Tonight will be the point where even the true-blue Repukes are going to turn off their TV sets because they can't stand him anymore.
polichick
(37,626 posts)But then, imo it was a mistake for Pres. Biden to keep Merrick Garland in place when there was no action on the Mueller Report or high level arrests after January 6th.
MotownPgh
(397 posts)polichick
(37,626 posts)DownriverDem
(6,712 posts)that bothers me. Harris should pretty much ignore him.
twodogsbarking
(12,291 posts)tavernier
(13,312 posts)I would start with:
Mr. Trump, with what individuals, and from what countries, did you share Americas classified, top secret documents after you illegally removed them from the White House?
polichick
(37,626 posts)Ohioboy
(3,538 posts)He should have been disqualified to ever run again at his first impeachment.
ailsagirl
(23,928 posts)He's a bully and he's found that the more belligerent he is, the more beneficial it is for him.
Until now.
Katinfl
(276 posts)Biden and Kamala surely deserve a worthy opponent and they are not getting it. Same with Hillary. This is so beneath all of them but, sadly, it is necessary.
ananda
(31,043 posts)Trump will follow no rules.
He will not answer any question directly.
He will offer no policy.
It will be just one gishgallop after another
full of a string of lies...
And there will be no fact checking.
Seinan Sensei
(776 posts)Plenty of Sanewashers
RevBrotherThomas
(850 posts)...is why I am terrified for our country.
surfered
(4,103 posts)BoomaofBandM
(1,922 posts)young_at_heart
(3,871 posts)Just thinking about this absurd situation makes my head explode......really!
chouchou
(1,506 posts)...the sociopathic malignant narcissist who has been found guilty of sexual abuse and 34 felony counts.
I've said this before: (I was a world traveler...My Job..not my wonderful-ness) .
There's a few people I talk/phone to and they ALWAYS say something like>> What the hell is going on over there?
I stammer around trying to say something intelligent and thoughtful....I really want to say: I want my Mommie..
Deuxcents
(20,381 posts)kwolf68
(7,876 posts)I am in disbelief at what this nation has come to.
Tweedy
(1,231 posts)I disagree with the rest of your statement, though. It is overbroad.
Every agency has not failed because it is not every agencys duty to examine any of this.
Every part of government has not failed because attempts to hold Mr. Trump accountable are proceeding as we speak despite the supreme courts corrupt intervention to invent for Mr. Trump an immunity not even English monarchs enjoyed (see Charles lost his head and the Long Parliament).
Every part of government controlled (still!) by Mr. Trumps sycophants (there is no conservative/non MAGA party extant inside the GOP today) has worked solely to give Mr. Trump a get out of jail free pass for every act of criminality he committed.
IMHO we need to name and shame those responsible for this travesty (looking at you Justice Roberts). Blaming democrats in this instance is self defeating and will not change a single thing.
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4catsmom
(350 posts)the fact that people are 'undecided' about who to vote for just astonishes me. it's like saying you can't decide between the local child molester or your grandmother to babysit your kids.
damifino10
(49 posts)Please, quit calling these fiascos debates. Nothing is debated. Moderators never make them "ANSWER THE QUESTION!"
Pathetic BS and we are forced to continue an out dated form of letting the contestents run the theater.
Chaps my ass they call these things debates.
Different Drummer
(8,849 posts)louis-t
(23,817 posts)classified documents and wouldn't give them back."
Evolve Dammit
(19,376 posts)bdamomma
(66,882 posts)even be there, he should be in prison. Where he truly belongs, let's make that happen.
RainCaster
(11,733 posts)The fact that this is the best they have to offer shows how pathetic that party has become.
Brainfodder
(7,181 posts)Flush this dildo come to life out of politics.
This is what I think gets lost to Republicans:
We just don't want this jackass grifter as our president and it is just THAT FUCKING SIMPLE!
This one guy.... I'd rather Clint Eastwood or any other obnoxious Republican be POTUS than this particular SHIT!
ForgedCrank
(2,455 posts)am understanding you correctly, you don't think the American voters deserve to see our candidate for President of the United States speak in front of opposition? I think they do, and I have every bit of confidence that she will do just fine. And besides, every time Trump is in front of a camera, he does even more damage to himself.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,019 posts)Arrange an interview with Harris and the moderators only the next day.
Dem4life1234
(2,040 posts)AdamGG
(1,536 posts)when he loses and is next tried, the Republicans will probably have less interest in helping him.
mdbl
(5,560 posts)We can only hope. I keep sending him Big Macs and Large Fries.
mdbl
(5,560 posts)IronLionZion
(47,315 posts)She gave some metrics and her plans and stories but the confident yes Americans are better now than with TSF needs to be said often and clearly.
poozwah
(278 posts)the republicans have made an elephant that looks exactly like a pig. there is not enough lipstick for this pig. there is not enough spin they can generate to change the fact that the man they claim was sent by god is nothing more than a rapist, a fraud, and an unparalleled liar. they will try and,in some areas, they will succeed which brings me to the following quote by h. l. mencken:
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
Irish_Dem
(60,859 posts)She had to show us she could stand up to Trump and the GOP.
FalloutShelter
(12,912 posts)This so plainly.
It is an absolute disgrace that one entire political party ,with an obvious assist from the MSM, is absolutely A-okay with the monster they have nominated for the highest office in the land.
It breaks my bran. It still shocks me.
PJMcK
(23,194 posts)Nearly 40% of the country supports a criminal and a traitor for President. What kind of people do that?
iemanja
(55,066 posts)which they didn't before. It was a big win for Harris all the way around.
OverBurn
(1,119 posts)I'll never understand, it boggles the mind. The debates must happen though, to think otherwise is nonsense. The orange one must be debated, so the uninformed, living under a rock, undecided voter can see what a unfit loon he is.
DENVERPOPS
(10,347 posts)to win elections since the Carter/Reagan election.....Then 2000 and 2004, then Trump soliciting help from Putin via the NRA......
Some here have been shouting from the rooftops since we became knowledgeable of what they did in the Carter Election.....and following every move of theirs since then......
polichick
(37,626 posts)with no obstruction charges, even under Bidens doj. That the 2000+ leads regarding Kavanaugh have still seen no action. And that no high level Jan. 6 planners have been charged, also under this doj. Etc., etc., etc.
Trump is not the only con being perpetrated against the American people.