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walznotwalls

(92 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:43 AM Sep 2024

Georgia school shooting suspect Colt Gray's dad called him a 'sissy' & bought him AR-15 to toughen him up, relative says

Source: NY Post

“He would call Colt names to his face,” says a relative of Colt’s mother, Marcee. “Names that no boy wants to hear: sissy, p—y, bitch… just names that were meant to break him down and emasculate him.”

Read more: https://nypost.com/2024/09/10/us-news/georgia-shooting-suspect-colt-grays-dad-bought-ar-15-to-toughen-him-up-relative/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social



this dad is dumb as a rock. lock him up. GUN CONTROL NOW!
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Georgia school shooting suspect Colt Gray's dad called him a 'sissy' & bought him AR-15 to toughen him up, relative says (Original Post) walznotwalls Sep 2024 OP
He killed children to impress his father and act out his rage. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #1
As an aside, I'll ask your opinion on Colt's rocking motion. John1956PA Sep 2024 #7
Rocking back and forth: Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #9
Yes, I saw that in another video. Looks like a self sooth. It can continue into adulthood if they aren't aware of it. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #72
Stimming LiberalArkie Sep 2024 #16
Bill Gates used to do that. And good morning. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2024 #38
I rock back and forth on my toes - from toe to heel when standing. LiberalArkie Sep 2024 #53
I noticed his father rocking radical noodle Sep 2024 #28
I've got chronic back. I rock. LeftInTX Sep 2024 #73
I'm so sorry radical noodle Sep 2024 #78
His father rocked back and forth, too rockbluff botanist Sep 2024 #31
so the kid was actually shooting his dad when he shot the school.... samnsara Sep 2024 #2
It would have been better for the world if he had shot his father. Baitball Blogger Sep 2024 #21
Some quality parenting right there BeyondGeography Sep 2024 #3
The mother has an arrest record a mile long as well Trenzalore Sep 2024 #4
"Doomed from the womb" as the saying goes... Talitha Sep 2024 #58
His name is Colt. James48 Sep 2024 #5
Weird isn't it...actually kinda creepy, patphil Sep 2024 #56
parents need to teach young learners how to become leaders... walznotwalls Sep 2024 #6
The problem is that it is easier to become a parent than to get a car license. No training required. Wonder Why Sep 2024 #39
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Sep 2024 #63
Jeebus- I am rendered speechless Redleg Sep 2024 #8
If only Traildogbob Sep 2024 #54
I forgot all about the ball tanning stuff Redleg Sep 2024 #64
We have a large Traildogbob Sep 2024 #66
Under the jail. The era of "How was I supposed to know?" is over. ck4829 Sep 2024 #10
WTAF. GB_RN Sep 2024 #11
The right wing MAGATs are too busy trying to persecute same-sex parents for "warping their kids hadEnuf Sep 2024 #12
where is that quote from? just wondering orleans Sep 2024 #42
It's just something I came up with because it seems to fit. hadEnuf Sep 2024 #60
it DOES fit -- it's perfect! nt orleans Sep 2024 #79
Being the child of a father who Karma13612 Sep 2024 #14
Damn. GB_RN Sep 2024 #18
My two siblings and I Karma13612 Sep 2024 #68
You're Welcome. GB_RN Sep 2024 #69
We had it from both sides. The MuseRider Sep 2024 #33
I'm glad to hear Karma13612 Sep 2024 #70
Oh so much here! MuseRider Sep 2024 #80
Your decision is one of... Mr. Mustard 2023 Sep 2024 #43
Oh gosh, now my eyes are leaking! Karma13612 Sep 2024 #67
So bullied at home, he takes that weapon the father bought hum and releases the rage on surrogates at school rather ... JT45242 Sep 2024 #13
Republican grooming. n/t area51 Sep 2024 #15
This is the kind of parenting that Trump and Vance want to bring back.n/t Yavin4 Sep 2024 #17
Is this what is called "Grooming kids"? LiberalArkie Sep 2024 #19
Horrible. Why was this abuser raising that child? mzmolly Sep 2024 #20
Nothing manly about shooting up a school IronLionZion Sep 2024 #22
Maybe shooting up the school was not the endgame. Shipwack Sep 2024 #25
The worst way to commit suicide IronLionZion Sep 2024 #26
No argument from me there... nt Shipwack Sep 2024 #29
Only 14 - IDK - more likely just an abused kid who didn't TBF Sep 2024 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #37
How does a gun toughen someone up? Joe Cool Sep 2024 #23
There is a lot of that type of 'parenting' going on. 70sEraVet Sep 2024 #24
Video - Colt deer hunting with dad womanofthehills Sep 2024 #41
i didn't watch the first video but the one with the cops orleans Sep 2024 #45
I watched both videos. Talitha Sep 2024 #61
His parents named him after a gun? Botany Sep 2024 #27
From the New York Post! So they would know.... Grins Sep 2024 #30
Mom and dad were the problem. I wonder how tough daddy feels now. Clouds Passing Sep 2024 #34
and how tough will he feel in prison with his upcoming life sentence? orleans Sep 2024 #47
Gun Control Jason1961 Sep 2024 #35
Of course he did, because that's what psychopaths do. Ray Bruns Sep 2024 #36
I had a feeling that it was typical RW machismo ideology Renew Deal Sep 2024 #40
How horrible it must have been growing up in that abusive house TommieMommy Sep 2024 #44
Convict dad. Then go after gun industry that uses ads like the following to promote their lethal weapons. Silent Type Sep 2024 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Yonnie3 Sep 2024 #48
It might also be coffeenap Sep 2024 #49
Yeah; killing children. Real masculine. Aristus Sep 2024 #50
Thank God and the GOP that the both of them had easy access thucythucy Sep 2024 #51
God. underpants Sep 2024 #52
Hopefully, Dad will have some time in prison to reflect on all this. Jim__ Sep 2024 #55
Consider That Dad RobinA Sep 2024 #59
I've seen this kind of "parenting" before. Mopar151 Sep 2024 #57
So sad that people are dead because this prick fucked his kid up so badly. onecaliberal Sep 2024 #62
that POS is lucky to be alive purr-rat beauty Sep 2024 #65
"Shooting sports" is considered "wholesome activity" by BSA and 4-H LeftInTX Sep 2024 #71
This is how a gun nut destroys his family Mysterian Sep 2024 #74
The weapon of self-destruction. twodogsbarking Sep 2024 #75
Yep Demovictory9 Sep 2024 #77
Toxic masculinity on steroids. Lunabell Sep 2024 #76
It sounds like the Dad is as guilty as his kid FakeNoose Sep 2024 #81
gun humping coward Skittles Sep 2024 #82
How many more dysfunctional families are there out there? Aussie105 Sep 2024 #83
Of course he's did Hassler Sep 2024 #84

Irish_Dem

(60,859 posts)
1. He killed children to impress his father and act out his rage.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:50 AM
Sep 2024

Rage from being abused by his own dad.

John1956PA

(3,492 posts)
7. As an aside, I'll ask your opinion on Colt's rocking motion.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:15 AM
Sep 2024

Colt's non-stop rocking back and forth struck me. As reported by news sources last month, Thomas Crooks had a similar habit when he was in his school years:

Citing loved ones and ex-classmates, the FBI revealed Crooks "would routinely sway back and forth while standing at the bus stop."

Irish_Dem

(60,859 posts)
9. Rocking back and forth:
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:25 AM
Sep 2024

It can be common in younger children as a self soothing behavior.

In older children it can be a sign of stress, a need to constantly self soothe.

Or a sign of a neurological disorder. Some sort of developmental disorder.

LeftInTX

(31,207 posts)
72. Yes, I saw that in another video. Looks like a self sooth. It can continue into adulthood if they aren't aware of it.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:24 PM
Sep 2024

I had a few habits. When I was in 8th grade, someone asked me, "Why are you saying, "ding-ding" all the time?"....
I responded, "I don't know". (I picked up the "ding-ding" from watching game shows).
Maybe I had a previous experience where the classmates said "ding-ding" when someone got the right answer? Anyway, I was going around saying "ding-ding", totally unaware that no one else was.
I was embarrassed and then I stopped.
I also clucked my tongue alot. I had alot of little things I did.
I had severe ADD

LiberalArkie

(16,749 posts)
53. I rock back and forth on my toes - from toe to heel when standing.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:15 AM
Sep 2024

It is about the only time that I am ever coordinated.

radical noodle

(8,882 posts)
28. I noticed his father rocking
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:33 AM
Sep 2024

in the courtroom. HE caused this, although Colt's mother's problems certainly would not have helped. My daughter teaches special needs (often emotionally disturbed) kids in a rural school and she sees families like this far too often. Dysfunctional family life is an epidemic in this country. Perhaps it's always been this way under the radar, but add the availability of guns to the mix and we're brewing a dysfunctional country.

rockbluff botanist

(360 posts)
31. His father rocked back and forth, too
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:39 AM
Sep 2024

At his court appearance, he was rocking and crying. Who's a sissy now?

samnsara

(18,337 posts)
2. so the kid was actually shooting his dad when he shot the school....
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 05:51 AM
Sep 2024

that dad belongs in prison forever

Baitball Blogger

(48,685 posts)
21. It would have been better for the world if he had shot his father.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:10 AM
Sep 2024

In retrospect.

I wonder how many kids out there, who are suffering the same abuse, will reach the same conclusion, because in the end, they will probably get less jail time than Colt.

Trenzalore

(2,575 posts)
4. The mother has an arrest record a mile long as well
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:07 AM
Sep 2024

Free will and all but this kid didn't have much of a chance

 

walznotwalls

(92 posts)
6. parents need to teach young learners how to become leaders...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:14 AM
Sep 2024

...who in turn when they grow up teach their own young learners to lead!

Wonder Why

(4,811 posts)
39. The problem is that it is easier to become a parent than to get a car license. No training required.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:09 AM
Sep 2024

It's easier to sell your car and take public transportation than it is to get rid of your kids legally.

There are cops who try and keep your driving safe and sane, insurance requirements to protect the car and the people you may hurt or the damage when you do, and testing to see if you qualify, as well as laws that can result in your losing your right to drive (although all these are too weak). On the other hand, beating, bullying, starving, mistreating and failing to bring your child up right have supporters.

Unless you are unlucky or do something real bad, you can keep your license almost forever, but there are no laws that stop you from creating more children, no matter how bad the parenting other than when you are in prison.

Bringing up children is far more expensive, far more difficult, and far more a problem than owning a car. Cars have become more reliable but children seem to have more environmentally-caused issues than in the days before pollution was so bad.

The repugs want to force you to bear your child, even if there is a likelihood of medical problems discovered before birth. Then once you have it, they don't want to provide aid for it. On the other hand, they want to build more and better roads in lieu of public transportation to encourage you to drive.

Redleg

(6,257 posts)
8. Jeebus- I am rendered speechless
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:18 AM
Sep 2024

well, almost. The father's thinking is what passes for manhood these days.

Traildogbob

(10,277 posts)
54. If only
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:29 AM
Sep 2024

Both would have followed Tuckum’s advice and just Tan their balls to be manly instead.
Have no idea the cost but a damn AR is over a thousand, and I know well ammo is close to over a dollar a bullet.
That’s a lot of tanning booth trips.
Fuck them both. We way too quickly forget about the wounded victims. Never hear about their debilitating injuries and bankrupting medical bills.
Any GQP cough up cash for the two injured and the MAGA ear shooting range?

Redleg

(6,257 posts)
64. I forgot all about the ball tanning stuff
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 12:42 PM
Sep 2024

These weirdos have been weird for quite a long time now.

In re: to those victims of the shootings, the GOP has already moved past that to show more concern for cats and ducks.

Traildogbob

(10,277 posts)
66. We have a large
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:22 PM
Sep 2024

Lake here in the county, very popular walking running completely around it. Rich Methodist own the big ass houses around the whole loop.
Because of the bread feeders the ducks are out of control. Nasty duck shit everywhere and the lake is entropically a toxic waste.
These folks here would pay big bucks to have the refugees come “Grab em by the neck” and feed their families. And the bread that gets thrown to em.
Kinda Jesusy like but instead of fish, those Christian’s could feed the refugee masses bread and ducks. Luke the BuyBull instructs.

GB_RN

(3,255 posts)
11. WTAF.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:39 AM
Sep 2024

Some people should never be allowed to have kids. Seriously, you have to have a class and take an exam to get your driver’s license, but we let any ignorant fuckstick take on the biggest, greatest responsibility you can ever have, without proving you’re at least somewhat competent and not an abusive, sadistic, moronic, narcissistic, jackass.

hadEnuf

(2,851 posts)
12. The right wing MAGATs are too busy trying to persecute same-sex parents for "warping their kids
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:51 AM
Sep 2024

into monsters", while promoting assholes like this mother and father as parents of the year.

orleans

(35,416 posts)
42. where is that quote from? just wondering
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:20 AM
Sep 2024

because it seems that perfectly describes what is happening with these dads/parents who inadvertently turn their children into mass murderers -- "warping their kids into monsters"

Karma13612

(4,716 posts)
14. Being the child of a father who
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:56 AM
Sep 2024

Was not equipped to be an even handed dad, I agree.

Some people are not good at parenting at all. They carry violence, abuse and a broken history which permeates their own parenting. And the cycle continues.

I broke the cycle. I knew I would not be equipped emotionally and mentally to raise a well-adjusted child. So, no kids for me. I suffer lots of anxiety, bouts of depression and have even had thoughts about suicide. I know the signs and seek help when needed.

GB_RN

(3,255 posts)
18. Damn.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:51 AM
Sep 2024

No one should have to go through all that.

Glad you recognize when you need to see someone.too many people don’t, and end up in the morgue or on the ICU.

Karma13612

(4,716 posts)
68. My two siblings and I
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:42 PM
Sep 2024

Scattered to the wind when we hit 18.

Each of us trying to piece together lives that make sense, no matter how dysfunctional they are.
We are still kicking.

Thank you for your sincere caring words, they are much appreciated.

GB_RN

(3,255 posts)
69. You're Welcome.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:47 PM
Sep 2024

As my favorite character on Star Trek would say, I hope that you all, “Live long and prosper.”

MuseRider

(34,424 posts)
33. We had it from both sides. The
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:47 AM
Sep 2024

bringing down a child just disgusts me. My youngest brother, now in his late 60's has rarely held a job, a girlfriend or any friends. He goes through a violent life. I had to remove him from my life because he hit me for fun. My other brother had anger issues too but he found outlets and the most he would do was yell. I wish to every being that he was still living. I have anger issues as well but other than needing some quiet time I am making it. My husband knows when to just let me go work things out. I raised 2 wonderful kids without hitting of any kind or demeaning them. It takes a HUGE amount of work and effort. Someone in a family has to start the process. On my side it has stopped. Living with parents like that and pulling yourself out of the self hatred it causes is a very difficult thing. Dad must not have wanted to change and now his son is in big trouble. I doubt his Dad ever puts this together or tries to change.

Karma13612

(4,716 posts)
70. I'm glad to hear
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:53 PM
Sep 2024

You pulled yourself away from the violence. We all are strong and should be proud of our efforts to try and lead calmer safer lives.

I’m also happy to see that there is less and less tolerance of corporal punishment and dysfunctional families. I’ve blamed myself for years that somehow it’s my fault that I’m broken.

I’ve found my old school records, and year books and class work. I was really pretty awesome despite the psychological mess that permeated my family life. I’m still awesome, despite being broken. And having gone thru some counseling, I know it wasn’t my fault. I’ve never achieved my full potential and am so insecure. But I enjoy as best I can.

Peace and happiness to you!

MuseRider

(34,424 posts)
80. Oh so much here!
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:27 PM
Sep 2024

I have always been too shy to be social but at 70 I think I have found my place. LOL!

It is never gone but I found my spot and will hold it tightly. I may be insecure but no one would ever know that!

For me it is seeing that anger grow, feeling the tension of the clutching hand knowing that there is no way for them to ever hit you again.

It has been a long time. I wish my one remaining brother could have felt the relief of being over it but he never will. That anger is all he has left. It truly sucks for him.

Keep working it and never believe you deserved it. Hard to crack that but it can be done. Much love and support. We won!!

Mr. Mustard 2023

(267 posts)
43. Your decision is one of...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:23 AM
Sep 2024

...strength and compassion. Few people look at themselves critically, much less thoughtfully make life altering decisions, yet you have.

You are to be commended and applauded for remarkable emotional & psychological strength. It is rare.

I also chose not to have kids due to a drop dead drunk for a father and narcissist for a mother.

It sounds like your experiences were far worse than mine, and I know mine was confusing to say the least.

I decided I wanted my life as my own, after watching not just my parents' behavior, but all three of my older sisters have children at age 15, then struggled with no support from my parents. My sisters are now solid, good people with successful careers who succeeded despite nearly everything stacked against them.

Having children is not the magical experience told in fairy tales. At least not for some, and I have not regretted my decision at any time in my life.

I met my beloved, wonderful wife of 22 years and she was unable to have children due to medical reasons so we are a happy, loving, caring couple who volunteer, donate and love animals.

We currently have two cats.

So phuck off J.D. Vance, MAGA and "Good Christians" because we're happy. With that said my wife wanted children and a family more than anything else in her life and she couldn't have them. She's come to terms with it, but the "Christian God" decided my wife wasn't able to have kids, and now the MAGA are saying she's somehow "less than those with kids"?

Again PHUCK OFF Weirdo Vance.

Finally - again sir or madam - be proud of who you are and take a bow for being one of the few humans, it seems, who knows who you are and what is actually best for you, and not based on what you've been told.




Karma13612

(4,716 posts)
67. Oh gosh, now my eyes are leaking!
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 01:35 PM
Sep 2024

We both are here to tell the tale.
We are both stronger because of working thru things and facing the hard facts of life.

Best wishes to you and your wonderful significant other and your cats!

JT45242

(3,019 posts)
13. So bullied at home, he takes that weapon the father bought hum and releases the rage on surrogates at school rather ...
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:53 AM
Sep 2024

than the real object that he wanted to kill, his father.

I hope that they are both given sentences so long that they can NEVER pose a threat to society as a whole or another person. Maybe with a lot of therapy, the son could be rehabilitated, but the father is beyond hope..
Of course, that would mean real, genuine mental health care on prison, which the son is highly unlikely to get.

IronLionZion

(47,315 posts)
22. Nothing manly about shooting up a school
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:14 AM
Sep 2024

This kind of abusive twisted thinking is way too common. Guns make it deadly.

Shipwack

(2,366 posts)
25. Maybe shooting up the school was not the endgame.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:24 AM
Sep 2024

Maybe what he really craved was suicide by cop.

TBF

(34,853 posts)
32. Only 14 - IDK - more likely just an abused kid who didn't
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:44 AM
Sep 2024

know where to turn. Took it out on the school rather than shooting his dad or himself. I wonder if he even thought through the consequences at that age??

The mental illness is apparent with this case, but we could at least try to keep innocent bystanders from being hurt (killed) by limited access to assault weapons.

Response to TBF (Reply #32)

Joe Cool

(1,021 posts)
23. How does a gun toughen someone up?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:19 AM
Sep 2024

Shooting a gun is a very low effort and low skill activity. More calories are burned baking a pie and it takes more skill to do it.
The dad seems like a complete loser.

70sEraVet

(4,274 posts)
24. There is a lot of that type of 'parenting' going on.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:23 AM
Sep 2024

Dads insecurity about their own masculinity, worried that their sons' perceived femininity will reflect poorly back on the father.
The kid may well have had a chance to grow up decently and break that cycle -- but dad threw in the macho gun to make sure that never happened.

orleans

(35,416 posts)
45. i didn't watch the first video but the one with the cops
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:38 AM
Sep 2024

the kid is rocking, and near the end when the cop who is talking to him moves over to a different place on the porch it looks like the kid doesn't turn slightly to face the cop -- he's glued in position and talking while facing no one.

Talitha

(7,486 posts)
61. I watched both videos.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 12:10 PM
Sep 2024

The first one does contain footage that may be disturbing to some. Yes, it's about a Deer hunt but there's nothing visually gory or bloody. There are no 'action' shots - just talking beforehand, and the blurred carcass afterwards with the boy standing behind it.
The dad praises his son, but it's no more than what's said generation after generation. I live in Deer hunting country (northern WI) and it's very common to hear kids (boys and girls) being praised about their first kill. Neither of my sons ever hunted, although my husband did. They never asked to go with him, and he never pressured them to. Sure wish I had a dollar for every time I was out shopping and overheard someone say "Did 'ya git 'yer deer?" during and after hunting season. -sigh-
One more thing. The boy honestly doesn't look enthused about hunting. I've seen plenty of kids up here who get as excited before their first hunt as they got before their first trip to Disney World. I might be wrong, but to me it looks as though this boy was going along with things just to please the old man. It was expected of him, so he did it.

Regarding the audio on the second video, be careful if you're using ear buds. It's a bit hard to hear the officer talking to the dad, so you'll need to turn up the volume. But be aware that the officer filming the conversation has a radio that will suddenly blasts out, and he also speaks, which is really loud unless you keep fiddling with the volume.

Grins

(7,971 posts)
30. From the New York Post! So they would know....
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:38 AM
Sep 2024

One of the reasons I thought charging him as an adult so damn quickly was to exact revenge, not justice. From what I have read, this kid is seriously disturbed. (And so is his father.)

orleans

(35,416 posts)
47. and how tough will he feel in prison with his upcoming life sentence?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:41 AM
Sep 2024

maybe he'll look at things on the bright side: at least his kid will have to toughen up in prison so he won't have to be calling him demeaning names anymore

Jason1961

(461 posts)
35. Gun Control
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:50 AM
Sep 2024

I had high hopes that Biden would be able to ram through some tough gun control measures that the next administration could take even further but I'm starting to think the MAGA Republicans in Congress like seeing stories like this

I really hope that Kamala will make gun control a huge priority, we can start with Universal Background Checks, registration, bans on assault rifles and the high capacity magazines (if you call it a clip some redneck will come along to fight you), and safe storage laws like they have in every other country

I don't hide that I'd rather see pretty much all guns banned except muskets, you know, the kind of guns that were around when the Constitution was drafted, but I know it's not politically viable...YET

One day this country will be free of 'gun culture' and the gun violence that comes with it, I just hope I'm still alive when it happens so I can wag my finger at NRA idiots

TommieMommy

(1,317 posts)
44. How horrible it must have been growing up in that abusive house
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:29 AM
Sep 2024

So very sad. The father should be locked up forever

Silent Type

(7,593 posts)
46. Convict dad. Then go after gun industry that uses ads like the following to promote their lethal weapons.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:40 AM
Sep 2024

The ad below is for the rifle used at Sandy Hook--

?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale&format=webp

Response to walznotwalls (Original post)

coffeenap

(3,223 posts)
49. It might also be
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 09:46 AM
Sep 2024

that the mom/wife was subject to abuse from dad/husband. Kid might have witnessed that, as well.

thucythucy

(8,802 posts)
51. Thank God and the GOP that the both of them had easy access
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 10:03 AM
Sep 2024

to semi-automatic weapons.

Coz, you know, freedom!

RobinA

(10,212 posts)
59. Consider That Dad
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:35 AM
Sep 2024

was probably treated this way as well, so he probably doesn't think there should be a problem. These things rarely spring from the Earth unassisted.

Mopar151

(10,194 posts)
57. I've seen this kind of "parenting" before.
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 11:00 AM
Sep 2024

A Karate instructor who "never pulled punches on his own kids" left behind a seriously screwed up generation of his family (plus a few neighbor kids), with LOTS of issues!

purr-rat beauty

(608 posts)
65. that POS is lucky to be alive
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 12:52 PM
Sep 2024

I would think that the abuse would have driven the kid to shoot dad first before going on a rampage as we have seen in other cases

I hope he is now buried under the prison.

LeftInTX

(31,207 posts)
71. "Shooting sports" is considered "wholesome activity" by BSA and 4-H
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 02:18 PM
Sep 2024

At least that's how it was when I had kids. My husband and son did it with both. My son earned his Boy Scouts "shooting badge". He also did it with 4-H. This was in the late 90's. Hubby thinks it was before Columbine, but it was late 90's.

They did targets and hubby said they used 22's. Son didn't advance in either program, and stopped when he was around 12.

We did not have guns in the house.
They did learn gun safety etc.

I did not like it!!!


I don't know if they still have the badges and programs, because of all the school shootings. Or if they have modified their programs due to all the school shootings.

Yes, my son was one of those kids who was not doing well in traditional sports. (He would be sidelined in soccer and little league) Shooting is considered more of an "individual sport" as opposed to a "team sport".

FakeNoose

(36,193 posts)
81. It sounds like the Dad is as guilty as his kid
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 06:34 PM
Sep 2024

... maybe even more so. It's like the Dad instigated the whole thing.

Aussie105

(6,546 posts)
83. How many more dysfunctional families are there out there?
Tue Sep 10, 2024, 07:20 PM
Sep 2024

Flying under the radar - until the shooting starts.

Then people go 'How did that happen? Didn't see that coming!'

Lost for words.



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