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riversedge

(73,404 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:47 AM Dec 5

Hegseth promises to stop drinking if confirmed, GOP senators say

Source: abc



Hegseth said Donald Trump told him to "keep going, keep fighting."
By Oren Oppenheim, Katherine Faulders, Soo Rin Kim, Kelsey Walsh, and Lalee Ibssa
December 4, 2024, 7:04 PM



Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump's pick for defense secretary, said on Wednesday he would not "back down" as new misconduct allegations cause growing concern among Republican senators tasked with whether to confirm him.

Going public in his own defense, Hegseth also directly addressed several of the accusations for the first time in an interview with Megyn Kelly. He denied many of the claims he mistreated women and pushed back on reports he was forced out from two veterans' nonprofit groups.

He's also promised senators he's stopped drinking and won't drink if confirmed, according to Missouri Republican Sen. Eric Schmitt. Some of the misconduct accusations included claims he has been drunk in public.

"He offered up to me, and I know he has with other senators too, that he's not drinking, and that's not something he's going to do when confirmed here," Schmitt said a day after meeting with Hegseth.

Sen. Roger Wicker, the incoming chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, which would vote to send Hegseth's nomination to the full Senate, affirmed that Hegseth committed to not drinking if he was confirmed............................



Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pete-hegseth-back-scrutiny-grows-misconduct-allegations/story?id=116444894



In all seriousness--it is a crime that Senators are even considering Hegseth to be Defense Secretary!!




Pete Hegseth President-elect Donald Trump's pick for defense** secretary promises to stop drinking if confirmed, GOP say

NO NO NO==Hegseth will be making decisions about our DEFENSE--we do NOT need a man who may be under the influence of alcohol 😠





3:50

Hegseth says he won't 'back down 'Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump's pick for defense secretary, remains defiant after new misconduct allegations are causing growing concern among Republican lawmakers.

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Hegseth promises to stop drinking if confirmed, GOP senators say (Original Post) riversedge Dec 5 OP
Did he promise to stop drugging and raping women? Irish_Dem Dec 5 #1
"he promised to stop drinking" speak easy Dec 5 #3
How many times did he promise this to his wives? Irish_Dem Dec 5 #4
How many of them presented at ER? speak easy Dec 5 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author speak easy Dec 5 #9
Spot on NotHardly Dec 5 #48
Proud member of the Cold Turkey Cabinet bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #2
I thought it would be The Onion. But no. Scrivener7 Dec 5 #5
Really? lonely bird Dec 5 #6
I'm a recovering alcoholic and it's what all alcoholics say. Ray Bruns Dec 5 #15
In 1989, John Tower signed a pledge to refrain from drinking "spirits" et al. if he were to be confirmed as SoD. John1956PA Dec 5 #7
"Beverage ethanol" was another eupemism of Tower's for his alcoholic drink of choice. Bo Zarts Dec 5 #29
Thanks, I do not remember the litany contained in his pledge. John1956PA Dec 5 #37
Hegseth can't do it or he would have done it already Bernardo de La Paz Dec 5 #10
...and his promise is only if,,,, bonzotex Dec 5 #13
My dad promised to stop drinking a thousand times maxrandb Dec 5 #11
cool story, bro. nt Javaman Dec 5 #12
But sexual assault is encouraged in the Trump administration IronLionZion Dec 5 #14
He's toast. He didn't deny all the sexual assaults, just some of them??? marble falls Dec 5 #16
Boy, I hope he keeps fighting, simply because there is (Probably) only 2,845,825 other men/women that would not... chouchou Dec 5 #17
Did he say for how long? 😂 cstanleytech Dec 5 #18
Until his next alcohol fueled bender. Ray Bruns Dec 5 #45
Oh, well then. Sure, of course... Timeflyer Dec 5 #19
CLASSIC headline!!! BComplex Dec 5 #20
We have all heard that line before. Sure he'll quit, when he quits Hitlers drug... Clouds Passing Dec 5 #21
A promise doesn't mean he's getting help for his addiction. Historic NY Dec 5 #22
Oh sure...you an take that right to the pile of things they said that will never happen PortTack Dec 5 #23
I won't drink if confirmed, in the meanwhile I'm going on a bender augyboston Dec 5 #24
Ok....go to a treatment center and get back to us in 3-4 years........ Bengus81 Dec 5 #25
Denial is its own drug. n/t Eyeball_Kid Dec 5 #34
He's no longer denying,he's admitted such Bengus81 Dec 5 #38
True... lonely bird Dec 5 #69
Denial is its own drug. n/t Eyeball_Kid Dec 5 #35
Cool UpInArms Dec 5 #26
I am relieved kansasobama Dec 5 #27
He can stop raping wom.. drinking anytime he wants. onecaliberal Dec 5 #28
Tomorrow Bo Zarts Dec 5 #30
The alcoholic's first pledge is sobriety that's conditional. Of course it's a con. Eyeball_Kid Dec 5 #31
Rule #1: alcoholics can't keep their promises dlk Dec 5 #32
better yet, he doesn't get confirmed and he can keep drinking. nt orleans Dec 5 #33
Giving another abusive man more power Marthe48 Dec 5 #36
If you believe that... Martin68 Dec 5 #39
"If Confirmed" pandr32 Dec 5 #40
You bet'um Red Ryder. Ha Ha Ha republianmushroom Dec 5 #41
A Yeaaah Riiiight kairos12 Dec 5 #42
He is lying! He is an addict and won't admit it so can never control it. lark Dec 5 #43
Say what? Rebl2 Dec 5 #44
An empty promise from a man who knows how to empty a bottle. patphil Dec 5 #46
You might find this shirt amusing Algernon Moncrieff Dec 5 #47
Yeah sure Pete! kimbutgar Dec 5 #49
My girlfriend, whose previous relationship with a man (second husband), who had a severe generalbetrayus Dec 5 #50
First crisis he faces he will be heading straight for the bottle - then rash decisions are inevitable. Blues Heron Dec 5 #51
I have alcoholics in my family. And misogynists. CousinIT Dec 5 #52
Is this promise of Hegseth's as credible as his wedding vows? keithbvadu2 Dec 5 #53
I promise to stop drinking when I am given a Nobel Prize. usonian Dec 5 #54
How PATHETIC the republican party has become...If the guy is an alcoholic, he can promise anything he wants, but he Escurumbele Dec 5 #55
Promises, promises meow2u3 Dec 5 #56
Liar. And maybe RFK Jr. has totally given up heroin? Seriously, this is what we get to actually RUN everything??? Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #57
LOL a dry drunk running the DOD... ramedy Dec 5 #58
Hahahahahahahaha sdfernando Dec 5 #59
Alcoholics lie about quitting all the time. zanana1 Dec 5 #60
But he wont quit now. Figarosmom Dec 5 #61
What could go wrong? forgotmylogin Dec 5 #62
that is literally, precisely what he is saying...which is what makes it so funny imo prodigitalson Dec 5 #68
Did he promise to stop embezzling money? Did he promise to stop carrying roofies with him? Hekate Dec 5 #63
Will he stop assaulting women, too? Deminpenn Dec 5 #64
Well, he's moved from denial to bargaining ThoughtCriminal Dec 5 #65
UNLESS HE GOES TO REHAB. . . Jimvanhise Dec 5 #66
Of course he will... maspaha Dec 5 #67
what are the odds he's drunk right now? prodigitalson Dec 5 #70

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

John1956PA

(3,428 posts)
7. In 1989, John Tower signed a pledge to refrain from drinking "spirits" et al. if he were to be confirmed as SoD.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:23 AM
Dec 5

The Senate rejected his nomination, nonetheless.

John1956PA

(3,428 posts)
37. Thanks, I do not remember the litany contained in his pledge.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:09 AM
Dec 5

I remember Tower reading his written pledge aloud at the Senate hearing

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,249 posts)
10. Hegseth can't do it or he would have done it already
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:50 AM
Dec 5

If he were a serious person he would have stopped drinking the day he was nominated if not years earlier. The best we can say is he has a ways to go before hitting bottom and getting to the point of actually stopping.

Promises to stop drinking are meaningless coming from alcoholics.

bonzotex

(869 posts)
13. ...and his promise is only if,,,,
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:00 AM
Dec 5

...he is confirmed. How many ways is this guy full of shit? I don't want to go off into alcoholism recovery thread but as you point out; he has no intention of stopping drinking.

He doesn't think it's a problem. The problem is people keep giving him shit about it. This is such classic, cliche' alcoholic-speak. Even with a shithead like Hegseth I hope he can find a way to sobriety. I just want it to be while outside of any government service.

Like you said, not a serious person.

maxrandb

(16,001 posts)
11. My dad promised to stop drinking a thousand times
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:58 AM
Dec 5

We actually made a "joke" about it.

"Quitting drinking and smoking is easy. I've done it a thousand times"

IronLionZion

(47,117 posts)
14. But sexual assault is encouraged in the Trump administration
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:16 AM
Dec 5

Last edited Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:16 AM - Edit history (1)

Trump doesn't drink either. He's just naturally an asshole

marble falls

(62,520 posts)
16. He's toast. He didn't deny all the sexual assaults, just some of them???
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:32 AM
Dec 5

I don't think this'll work for Hegsmith:

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chouchou

(1,425 posts)
17. Boy, I hope he keeps fighting, simply because there is (Probably) only 2,845,825 other men/women that would not...
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 08:33 AM
Dec 5

...have a Shit-Load of problems like Pete Hegseth has... Oh Brother.

augyboston

(273 posts)
24. I won't drink if confirmed, in the meanwhile I'm going on a bender
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 09:43 AM
Dec 5

I wouldn't hire this clown to take out the garbage.

He obviously has a huge problem with alcohol and the chances of him self reforming are slim to none.

Then there's his issue with misogyny along with a multitude of character flaws.

No way should any of the MAGA senators confirm him, but we all know most of them will kiss The Jerk's sorry ass in total fealty.

Bengus81

(7,494 posts)
38. He's no longer denying,he's admitted such
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:10 AM
Dec 5

Of course he's lying his ass off about quiting just to try and bag the DS job.

lonely bird

(1,971 posts)
69. True...
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:09 PM
Dec 5

But then I would bet that many alcoholic say they can control their drinking until they can’t.

Bo Zarts

(25,707 posts)
30. Tomorrow
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:10 AM
Dec 5

"Tomorrow, tomorrow
I love ya tomorrow
You're always, a day away
Tomorrow, tomorrow
I love ya tomorrow
You're always, a day away"

Songwriters: Martin Charnin / Charles Strouse

Eyeball_Kid

(7,584 posts)
31. The alcoholic's first pledge is sobriety that's conditional. Of course it's a con.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:21 AM
Dec 5

No one with a lick of sense will believe an alcoholic's conditional sobriety pledge. As once said, it's as phony as a three dollar bill. Hegseth is addicted. So here's the scenario. Hegseth is confirmed to run the DoD. Then he quits "cold turkey" and asserts that he's not an alcoholic, that it's merely a change of habit. But there's a problem and it's not unique. He's got physical dependence. He's physically addicted. He will have WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS that are debilitating. So he gets the dry heaves and he's having violent tremors while he's supposed to command the entire Defense Department??? Then he has to deal with depression and desperation while he's managing a multi-billion dollar budget??? Who's more crazy? Hegseth or the person who nominated him?? And this is to say NOTHING about his own inability to evaluate his own behavior. Since when does HE THINK that he's qualified for the DoD job. How does he justify his candidacy? If he believes that he can do the job, how detached from reality does he have to be? And if he's THAT detached from reality, how on Earth can he ever function when he's stressed and at wit's end trying to solve EVERYDAY administrative problems, no less existential world crises???

dlk

(12,468 posts)
32. Rule #1: alcoholics can't keep their promises
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:22 AM
Dec 5

Anyone familiar with the disease understands this

Either Republicans are suckers or they think we are.

Marthe48

(19,321 posts)
36. Giving another abusive man more power
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:02 AM
Dec 5

adding another link to the chain of insitutional oppression.



patphil

(7,111 posts)
46. An empty promise from a man who knows how to empty a bottle.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 11:48 AM
Dec 5

Drunks make these promises all the time, and, without counseling and lots of help, never keep them.
He needs to check into a detox unit and join Alcoholics Anonymous. After a couple years of demonstrating to everyone that he no longer drinks, then he could be considered for a minor government position, but never a major position in anyone's government.
The stress of being Secretary of Defense would break him almost immediately.
Of course he would still have the major character flaws that should have put him in prison, but didn't.
I hope the Republicans understand the danger to our defense that this guy represents.

kimbutgar

(23,607 posts)
49. Yeah sure Pete!
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:01 PM
Dec 5

He is an alcoholic who has no business being the head of the most powerful military in the world.

Just because he is a TV personality who served in military doesn’t make him qualified.

generalbetrayus

(667 posts)
50. My girlfriend, whose previous relationship with a man (second husband), who had a severe
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:14 PM
Dec 5

drug and alcohol problem, snorted out loud when she heard on MSNBC that Hegseth said he would quit drinking if he got the job as Defense Secretary. ( She was a regular at Al-Anon meetings during her second marriage.)

Blues Heron

(6,228 posts)
51. First crisis he faces he will be heading straight for the bottle - then rash decisions are inevitable.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:16 PM
Dec 5

keithbvadu2

(40,500 posts)
53. Is this promise of Hegseth's as credible as his wedding vows?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:35 PM
Dec 5

Booze and sexual abuse.

Just think of the videos Vlad would have of him.

usonian

(14,600 posts)
54. I promise to stop drinking when I am given a Nobel Prize.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:38 PM
Dec 5

Dang, and I just opened that bottle of fortified egg nog.

Come on, Nobel Committee! I need the prize.

Escurumbele

(3,647 posts)
55. How PATHETIC the republican party has become...If the guy is an alcoholic, he can promise anything he wants, but he
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 12:50 PM
Dec 5

needs help, he cannot and will not do it on his own, he has an addiction.

The country is supposed to believe the guy's promise? Pathetic beyond words.

meow2u3

(24,935 posts)
56. Promises, promises
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:07 PM
Dec 5

Even if he did promise to quit drinking, it doesn't mean he'll stay sober. Alcoholics need professional help via rehab, not just an empty promise to lay off the sauce.

Evolve Dammit

(19,056 posts)
57. Liar. And maybe RFK Jr. has totally given up heroin? Seriously, this is what we get to actually RUN everything???
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:16 PM
Dec 5

sdfernando

(5,422 posts)
59. Hahahahahahahaha
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:23 PM
Dec 5

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I don’t see that happening!

zanana1

(6,306 posts)
60. Alcoholics lie about quitting all the time.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 01:33 PM
Dec 5

I should know. I've done it myself. I've been sober for 46 years, but I don't forget.

Figarosmom

(3,293 posts)
61. But he wont quit now.
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:00 PM
Dec 5

Its so important for him he'll only give it up " if ".

YEAH RIGHT!!!!

This is the most used promise by an alcoholic. It's an empty promise.

AND I BET HE'S MADE THIS PROMISE BEFORE.

prodigitalson

(2,953 posts)
68. that is literally, precisely what he is saying...which is what makes it so funny imo
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:09 PM
Dec 5

any talk of sobriety on his part is totally conditioned on being Sec. of Def. "I'm not about to quit drinking now. No fucking way"

Hekate

(95,286 posts)
63. Did he promise to stop embezzling money? Did he promise to stop carrying roofies with him?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:15 PM
Dec 5

Did he promise to stop rating US Military women by their fuckability?

Booze gives him permission. It is part of his power-trip — like his choice of religion.

Meanwhile, watch what the Senators do, not what they say. They’ve been remarkably forgiving of rapist Supreme Court Justice candidates, after calling them naughty boys.

Deminpenn

(16,347 posts)
64. Will he stop assaulting women, too?
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 02:24 PM
Dec 5

Give up his Christian Nationalist views?

I'm sure the list is a lot longer than that, too.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,351 posts)
65. Well, he's moved from denial to bargaining
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:17 PM
Dec 5

Once again, the incoming administration is prolonging the damage from not bothering to do even the thinnest of vetting.

Jimvanhise

(376 posts)
66. UNLESS HE GOES TO REHAB. . .
Thu Dec 5, 2024, 05:34 PM
Dec 5

In the 1980s Stephen King had a drinking problem. He only stopped after his family had an intervention and he went to rehab. His drug of choice was beer. Before the intervention he recognized that he might be drinking too much when he noticed that in one week he'd fill a large trash barrel in his garage with empty beer cans. People who drink like it and they don't notice if their actions are affecting anyone else until confronted with it. This guy's problem is so bad that once he's cast aside (Trump dislikes people who drink too much) even Fox News won't hire him back.

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