Plants would have to be built from the ground up.

… end of story. Gas is cheaper, cleaner,* and much easier to use than coal. I know of a family in
W.V. who were from coal country and had worked in the mines but starting in the 1990s worked
In converting coal plants to gas.

* gas when burned does produce CO 2 and other greenhouse gases.

Coal Kills: The miners, the local environment, and the supportive capacity of the planet’s ecosystem.

Outside of making coke and for certain metallurgical processes it should be left in the ground.

Trump is nutz.

… problem is that in coal country the miners and former miners are constantly being
fed lies that coal will make a comeback and that comeback is being stopped by radical
environmentalists who don’t understand their and the real world. However the vast majority
of coal miners and their families know that coal is dead but most of them will not admit that
publicly. Trump is more than happy to stoke their anger and tell them and others that he
will bring back the good old days when main street in towns in coal country were alive with
business and people but even back in the boom days and now most young people can’t
wait to move out those areas.


Welch W.V. in 2019



Same street in 1946

My first thought was, "maybe this is payback to Babcock & Wilcox (they make boilers, which you need for a coal plant) for their contributions in the 2024 election." Then I checked their 2024 contributions and they didn't donate anything to Trump in 2024.

No, this is just a straight "own the libs" move. Anyone in the US that's currently running a coal plant is working to decommission it as soon as possible.

gas isn't perfect, still pollutes. cheaper than coal. of course everything else gets ramped up too. including nuclear, though that may be more expensive soon...

states.

Hydrogen

https://m.

https://m.

The Donvict is a through-and-through reactionary, but he can't turn back the clock on this.

Let' go back to wood and whale oil!

Coal isn't economically feasible anymore. Nobody wants to build them as there are many cheaper alternatives.

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Black, smutty, dirty. Would have gotten beaten with a switch if I had my school clothes on. I'd love to see someone drop that stupid fucker down a coal mine in his prissy-ass golfing britches.

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No paywall at this finance.yahoo hosted article (it's the Bloomberg article in the OP)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-authorizing-administration-produce-233002961.html

I have read several articles over the last several months that some utilities are delaying plans for closing their coal-fired plants because of the growth of electricity demand overall, particularly with AI data centers.

While it may be uneconomical to build NEW coal-fired power plants (compared to e.g. new natural gas-fired), keeping one running that has already been built is economical in some cases, depending on a utility's current power mix. . Otherwise they wouldn't still be running them. Relaxing environmental regulations, which tRump is pushing the EPA to do, will extend their economic lives.

Plenty of utilities are building new natural gas-fired power plants as well. Wind and solar is great, but is weather-dependent. That's not a problem for a utility adding its first wind and solar power plants, but becomes increasingly problematical (requiring more and more curtailments or selling power at a loss), as the percentage increases beyond certain levels, and battery backup in the quantity needed is very expensive and getting bad publicity from utility-scale battery storage plant fires like Moss Landing.

Some of the coal-fired plants are being shut down because of state mandates, not because of economics.

As for federal agencies that produce electric power - two that I know of are the Tennessee Valley Authority (which has four coal-fired plants with a combined capacity of 7,000 MW), and Bonneville Power Administration, which has stakes in some coal-fired plants.

https://www.mining.com/web/us-considers-emergency-powers-to-restart-closed-coal-plants/#:~:text=An%20additional%20120%20coal%2Dfired,and%20Core%20Natural%20Resources%20Inc.

(snip)
Since 2000, about 770 individual coal-fired units have retired, according to data from Global Energy Monitor, amid competition from cheaper natural gas and to a lesser-extent renewables.

Coal accounts for about 15% of power generation in the US today, down from more than half in 2000, according to the US Energy Information Administration.
(snip)

The effort was panned by environmental groups, such as the Sierra Club, which has said coal-fired electricity is more expensive than renewable electricity and a source of dangerous global warming greenhouse gas as well as other dangerous pollutants.
(snip)

Sez NOBODY.

nt

Still amazed at his level of stupidity after many years.

and most of the reason are not environmental. It's just not as profitable anymore as gas and other things he hates like wind and solar.

Since he's ordering the administration to produce energy with coal maybe he just means someone should go out into the rose garden with a grill and make him some hamburgers.

Then was bought in 2020 by a redevelopment company.

Demolition was scheduled to start in 2024, but I can't see that it did start.

Still, IMO it would take a LOT of $$ to restore it as a functioning power plant.

Stupid could be harnessed.

We’d be set.

I have always thought it’s a containment issue.

Someone should inform Stinky that the EPA doesn’t produce or distribute fossil fuels.
That is done by private companies and they only do it when it’s profitable.

Of course clean coal was a buzzword invented by the industry to highlight modern chimney scrubbers and burning techniques. The problem is these things are expensive and the owners are more than reluctant to employ them.

I wonder if Trump is dense enough to fall for the corporate propaganda that they're only mining "clean coal", or if he's in on the scam?
There's always the question with Trump: Is he diabolical or gullible?

What's it gonna take to get this clown jettisoned out of office?

It’s funny the way he’s calling coal
clean. He’s obviously never seen a lump of coal in his life.

we don't even have the capacity to use coal much anymore, its dead and gone. Just red meat for his fans in PA and KY.

Trump's idea of 'clean' coal

Trump appears to believe that clean coal - which, it must always be pointed out, doesn’t actually exist - is when workers mine coal and then physically “clean it.” That does not happen, but facts have never stopped Trump.

http://time.com/4912730/donald-trump-clean-coal-phoenix/

and all its ever put in the air is steam. There are huge facilities that somehow process and clean whatever waste (smoke etc) is produced by the actual burning of coal. I have no idea if it works but I haven't seen dark black clouds out of a coal-fired plant I think probably ever in my life.