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The Velveteen Ocelot

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3. Some of us old folks can remember a time when looking and sounding good on TV

Wed Jul 24, 2019, 01:58 PM

Jul 2019

wasn't the most important thing in the world. The hearing was not riveting entertainment, but it wasn't meant to be. It's like comparing trials on TV shows and movies with real trials. In a former life I did trials. Trials are about 95% excruciatingly boring; much of the time is spent authenticating documents and exhibits and asking interminable but necessary background questions. Witnesses mumble and hesitate and don't remember. You have to repeat questions. You have to show them exhibits and let them read documents. TV trials are exciting; witnesses don't stammer and mumble and sometimes they freak out entertainingly. That does not happen in real life. It does not happen in Congressional hearings. Even the Watergate hearings were kind of dull until Dean and Butterfield turned up. Expectations for a Dean moment were unrealistic, but even so, the important information is now out there.

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I watched every minute of Mueller's testimony this morning and I am royally pissed [View all] Atticus Jul 2019 OP

No they won't. Corporate media is playing up for the RWers . . . Iliyah Jul 2019 #1

Remember the Blue Wave? The label finally stuck after the media had a few days to digest DemocracyMouse Jul 2019 #69

Great cilla4progress Jul 2019 #99

right wing politicians are scared Larrybanal Jul 2019 #73

they only believe him because he echoes his neighbor and golf partner limbaugh certainot Jul 2019 #87

well when you accept being called a DITTO head Larrybanal Jul 2019 #96

you're expecting a lot! that's why we need to keep wages down and reduce leisure time and certainot Jul 2019 #101

Just for fun DENVERPOPS Jul 2019 #94

I watched and/or listened to every minute of Mueller's testimony this morning and... jayfish Jul 2019 #2

Thank you for being an objective person. To me it looks like Mueller did not even read his own UniteFightBack Jul 2019 #7

Mueller was walking a fine line laid down for him be Barr. pazzyanne Jul 2019 #16

You mean Bill Barr, who LIED about his report? not_the_one Jul 2019 #90

You do not understand who Mueller is. pazzyanne Jul 2019 #91

Noticed that too. We and the House seem to know Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #33

What nugget, jayfish? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #34

This one. jayfish Jul 2019 #42

So, in other words Ohioboy Jul 2019 #70

No because that doesn't fit the "total disaster" narrative. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #76

I don't share that view. We knew the Republicans would try to PatrickforO Jul 2019 #38

Some of us old folks can remember a time when looking and sounding good on TV The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3

THIS THIS THIS BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #8

This is one of the reasons I kept pushing back on people lighting their hair on fire when Democrats StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #54

Am guessing people are thinking a "hearing" BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #61

DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?! StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #63

.... BumRushDaShow Jul 2019 #65

The first time I served jury duty - and saw court in action - I was totally surprised Rabrrrrrr Jul 2019 #13

Not To Mention The Fact RobinA Jul 2019 #53

Thank you! h2ebits Jul 2019 #17

Everything you said StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #40

Oh good, you are a trial lawyer, watoos Jul 2019 #75

Why do you think Hicks, McGahn, Lewandowski, etc. are more likely to testify in an impeachment StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #78

C'mon man watoos Jul 2019 #80

How do you think that will work? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #81

+1000 llmart Jul 2019 #41

There seems a reliance on quick, easily digestible, one-act dramas LanternWaste Jul 2019 #58

Thank you! redstatebluegirl Jul 2019 #60

What's so serious? ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #72

this is why barbtries Jul 2019 #4

+++ agree about fast forading through the gopers nt iluvtennis Jul 2019 #18

You must have watched MSNBC padah513 Jul 2019 #5

I totally agree with you FakeNoose Jul 2019 #10

Ironically, I'm sorry that Hillary has way too much class to get involved... maddiemom Jul 2019 #26

I agree with your take, with one exception... dchill Jul 2019 #31

OK thanks FakeNoose Jul 2019 #39

Why the hell is Brian Williams hosting this? AMAGAtsNTD365 Jul 2019 #97

I don't think it was a disaster at all . Media pundits can go fuck themselves. octoberlib Jul 2019 #6

Yup! The setup was already in when they happy feet Jul 2019 #68

The media always judges on entertainment value. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2019 #9

They wanted Mueller to walk in, deliver a movie style speech.... RhodeIslandOne Jul 2019 #11

Meantime, at 1211 Avenue of the Americas studios... lambchopp59 Jul 2019 #12

I'm surprised Trump hasn't tried puppies as a distraction tactic. Different Drummer Jul 2019 #20

The Kushner family got a new pup Backseat Driver Jul 2019 #59

Poor pooch lunatica Jul 2019 #67

A quick review of Facebook this morning Bettie Jul 2019 #14

Your Republican buddy just figured out the Republicans are incompetent? dem4decades Jul 2019 #35

Relatives...and Bettie Jul 2019 #47

You should tell him all about what Gym Jordan and the wrestling team. dem4decades Jul 2019 #66

That's interesting. Most people react to the truth DonaldsRump Jul 2019 #82

Interesting. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #36

I also watched every minute of Mueller's testimony pazzyanne Jul 2019 #15

Because the "liberal media" is actually the CONSERVATIVE PRESS. nt Baltimike Jul 2019 #19

It's funny because Trump says the same thing treefarmers Jul 2019 #22

No, actually, he doesn't Baltimike Jul 2019 #27

You choose to repeat a right wing meme as your second DU post? nt Atticus Jul 2019 #29

The point is that six large publicly held corporations own virtually all PatrickforO Jul 2019 #43

That's a good summary of the current era Midnightwalk Jul 2019 #21

Yes, and the big media outlets ALWAYS force you to watch their videos. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #46

They don't want to lose their meal ticket... brandnewday2009 Jul 2019 #23

Well...we have the quotes and the sound bites for the election pecosbob Jul 2019 #24

If it "bleeds it ledes" is mantra of media. Prepare for the disaster scenario imo. SayItLoud Jul 2019 #25

No One's Spinning It That Way DarthDem Jul 2019 #28

No one watches a one horse race underpants Jul 2019 #30

Thank you so much for saying this! I'm with you 1,000% StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #32

The expectation is someone does a Graham Stand spewing performance. kairos12 Jul 2019 #37

the media has learned nothing from their gross mistakes 2016. EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #44

Chuck Rosenberg, on MSNBC made the point, in his usual... 3catwoman3 Jul 2019 #45

Chuck Rosenberg should know! DeminPennswoods Jul 2019 #51

Yeah, They Always Switch Cameras... jayfish Jul 2019 #55

I chuckle to myself when he is referred to... 3catwoman3 Jul 2019 #56

if the media doesn't get its "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH" moment, the call it a "bust" EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #48

In The Mueller Report DallasNE Jul 2019 #49

I totally agree. I don't know what the talking heads were expecting. Vinca Jul 2019 #50

I am still watching PBSnews and have looked to social media on the internet . What do you expect lunasun Jul 2019 #52

if we hear crickets, that would be a big win for Dems. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2019 #57

Media spin: Ironic because when the right doesn't hear what they like from the media elocs Jul 2019 #62

I was pessimistic going in, but was quite impressed with Dems and message from Hearing. Hoyt Jul 2019 #64

Yes the complicit media is public enemy #1. nt live love laugh Jul 2019 #71

yup G_j Jul 2019 #74

I'm with you-- it's terrifying-- like all three months of Watergate hearings in one day dawg day Jul 2019 #77

I hear ya! NanceGreggs Jul 2019 #79

Me too!! If I hear from any Trumpee that the hearing was a disaster for Democrats, Lint Head Jul 2019 #83

mueller dawn5651 Jul 2019 #84

You might want to avoid the NYT tonight. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2019 #85

Most Americans didn't watch the hearing. Ligyron Jul 2019 #86

I agree. Tertullian Jul 2019 #88

There is no discomfort in the White House RainCaster Jul 2019 #89

Nobody cares what the WH Press thinks. They gifted phony Huckabee-Sanders a dinner, and never Prof.Higgins Jul 2019 #92

I don't think he looked well at all. greytdemocrat Jul 2019 #93

I heard and saw the same things as well. ooky Jul 2019 #95

You are in the esteemed company of cilla4progress Jul 2019 #98

The media spin began as "disaster for Democrats" Progressive dog Jul 2019 #100