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160. MWO and later BartCop

Sat Jul 20, 2024, 03:11 PM

Jul 20

Media Whores Online - pretty appropriate to today, huh? This was 20 years ago.

This was when they were lionizing Bush/Cheney for letting us get attacked on purpose (weren't expecting 911) so they could effect their Middle East adventurism. The media never went near the topic despite reams of warnings from the Clinton administration and the intelligence community. Big story, not interested.

In case you thought this is new for this generation, nunh-uh. Every generation thinks that. A quarter century ago.

And before the Internet they were savaging the Clintons like you wouldn't believe. Obama was treated with kid gloves by comparison.

Hence Media Whores Online.

American journalism has been behaving like this forever. Almost no amount of right wing treachery moves them, but Gore's sighs, Hillary's emails, Joe's (winning) debate stuttering, well, that's 24/7 for months on end.

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How did you find Democratic Underground? I came from Huffington Post in 2004 [View all] debm55 Jul 20 OP

Someone from an obscure Yahoo board suggested it Bok_Tukalo Jul 20 #1

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It was mentioned at Eschaton. onecaliberal Jul 20 #2

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2004...Bartcop PCIntern Jul 20 #3

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by accident after the gore v bush gaffee. AllaN01Bear Jul 20 #4

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I found it in 2005. Island Blue Jul 20 #6

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I came from Firedog Lake in 2008 FalloutShelter Jul 20 #7

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Bartcop, pre-9/11 Prairie Gates Jul 20 #9

I still remember how long it would take for my 28k modem to moniss Jul 20 #15

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Bartcop for me as well.... alittlelark Jul 20 #98

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Bartcop from way moniss Jul 20 #10

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A Google search contained an old DU post as one of the results. Celerity Jul 20 #11

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After the 2016 election, I was very depressed, I actually joined when Joe Biden announced his run in 2019 Walleye Jul 20 #12

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I saw the sign at bush's inagural protest in 2001 proud patriot Jul 20 #13

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Thom Hartmann Sneederbunk Jul 20 #14

Same. Xavier Breath Jul 20 #47

He's been DUer since 2006: Dave Bowman Jul 20 #89

Yes, I enjoyed reading his posts here over the years. Xavier Breath Jul 20 #123

Smirking chimp XanaDUer2 Jul 20 #16

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2004 or 5 googling Democratic for something else , yorkster Jul 20 #18

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I came from RagingBull HAB911 Jul 20 #19

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Brother in law AltairIV Jul 20 #21

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I was a Clarkie. lamp_shade Jul 20 #23

I remember those days of Wes Clark. Thank you, lamp_shade. debm55 Jul 20 #46

I found it by accident and it may become the only medium kansasobama Jul 20 #25

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2001, while angrily browsing the web trying to get perspective on what I thought was a coup by Carlitos Brigante Jul 20 #26

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And we're using that term "judges" very loosely here. They came in with predetermined outcomes in Carlitos Brigante Jul 20 #82

This was me too Diraven Jul 20 #99

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I think someone from a campaign told me this was an "important" site. Renew Deal Jul 20 #27

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Yes, this is the best forum I've been apart of. Elessar Zappa Jul 20 #83

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Somehow I stumbled on it in 2001... S/V Loner Jul 20 #28

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2003 Irqai war Blue Full Moon Jul 20 #29

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Bartcop Americanme Jul 20 #30

Same here. Archae Jul 20 #59

Thank you, Americanme, It seems a lot of posters were there. Was there a reason it closed? debm55 Jul 20 #72

Hey deb I saw moniss Jul 20 #124

I saw Skinner and EarlG on TV at Shrub's inauguration, carrying their Democratic Underground sign. hedda_foil Jul 20 #33

Me too! Dave in VA Jul 20 #73

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Thank you hedda__foil. I didn't know they did that. That is great. debm55 Jul 20 #74

I came here in 2004 during the Bush v Gore mess. badhair77 Jul 20 #34

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Internet search, looking for a place Bettie Jul 20 #36

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from a link posted on the official Xena: Warrior Princess message board eShirl Jul 20 #38

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After the election, I searched for Democratic forums GPV Jul 20 #40

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Turned left at Greenland. NameAlreadyTaken Jul 20 #42

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I honestly don't remember Mossfern Jul 20 #48

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I heard about the political blogs in the States DFW Jul 20 #49

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i was making political buttons. hence my name- pinkobuttons was my company name. google refused my ads. mopinko Jul 20 #52

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2003 from beloved BartCop! Not many OP's - but a loyal reader - and not shy with responses! Ninga Jul 20 #53

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I came from Political Groove. Pisces Jul 20 #54

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Finding DU Hannahcares Jul 20 #55

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The Smirking Chimp, and I lurked for a while before I joined ms liberty Jul 20 #56

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Searched for Democratic Forums usedtobedemgurl Jul 20 #57

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9/11 Dave says Jul 20 #58

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A right-wing newspaper columnist wrote an unsavory comment re DU. John1956PA Jul 20 #60

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Media Whores Online in 2001 central scrutinizer Jul 20 #61

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After the Gore presidency was stolen, I hit the internet looking for a Democratic message board. lark Jul 20 #62

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I discovered DU's Facebook page on Facebook. Niagara Jul 20 #63

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Bartcop led me to DU and Media Whores Online Blue 808 Jul 20 #64

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Bartcop Akacia Jul 20 #68

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On a whim I searched for Conservative Idiots. 2002. maveric Jul 20 #76

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I saw an article entitled "Top ten conservative idiots" Elessar Zappa Jul 20 #80

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Through an internet search. I popped in to take a look, and felt like heaven had just dropped into my lap. Talitha Jul 20 #81

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2004 a link on Michael Moores website Tree Lady Jul 20 #85

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Lynn Samuel's' website no_hypocrisy Jul 20 #87

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It's been ForgedCrank Jul 20 #90

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I was Googling for Bush jokes in February of 2001. greatauntoftriplets Jul 20 #93

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The Smirking Chimp fmdaddio Jul 20 #96

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I first found DU while I was looking for details about Howard Dean's candidacy in 2004. musicblind Jul 20 #100

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I turned left at Greenland if..fish..had..wings Jul 20 #101

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I came from Smirking Chimp rockbluff botanist Jul 20 #105

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Back 23 Years Ago... ProfessorGAC Jul 20 #110

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Earl G's Top 10 Conservative Idiots Moosepoop Jul 20 #116

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The current Top 10 is still going strong! Top 10 Idiots Jul 20 #154

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I was numb to politics after 2000. But after 2008, I was hopeful. In 2012, I wanted Obama to get re-elected. LeftInTX Jul 20 #117

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Salon malaise Jul 20 #122

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2004. Migrated from John Kerry's site where there was a forum. Vinca Jul 20 #125

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A link from Bartcop, early in the Bush administration. rsdsharp Jul 20 #126

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Accidentally, while doing a search unrelated to politics. DelMar dem Jul 20 #127

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First became aware of it while dealing with 9/11 conspiracy theories Jarqui Jul 20 #128

Same here, signed up and just read the site. I enjoyed , Didn't post but did like reading. Thank you, Jarqui debm55 Jul 20 #130

Google... looking for a place to vent my frustrations at the time about Trump In It to Win It Jul 20 #132

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By accident at a Net Cafe. I guess I was looking for... electric_blue68 Jul 20 #133

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Word of mouth. In person not on the 'net. Salvador Dolly Jul 20 #134

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Joined July 2003 49jim Jul 20 #135

Thank you very much, 49jim . It doesn't matter that you are part of our family. I am sorry about your dear wife. May her debm55 Jul 20 #153

Came from the now defunct "Media Whores online" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 20 #136

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Through a 2004 essay I read on Common Dreams. intheflow Jul 20 #137

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Prime Ear at DU Squeaky41 Jul 20 #138

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I've lurked on and off for some time. NoveltySocks Jul 20 #139

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Bartcop in 2004. ismnotwasm Jul 20 #140

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I have been here since Cherrycheeks Jul 20 #141

Same here from Huffington Post. Thank you very much, Cherrycheeks. debm55 Jul 20 #142

I was invited by a long time member Baggies Jul 20 #144

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2001 (different DU name), after the Usurping Crap Court handed the election Gore won to Bush. CousinIT Jul 20 #151

That is the year I signed up. Thank you, my friend. We will win. debm55 Jul 20 #159

From my hubby Lifeafter70 Jul 20 #152

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Bartcop nt multireeds Jul 20 #157

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I think I googled 'democratic sites' and it came up as part of a list Joinfortmill Jul 20 #158

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MWO and later BartCop Tactical Progressive Jul 20 #160

Thank you, Tactical Progressive. We are Democrats, we are strong. debm55 Jul 20 #163

Thanks for the pep Tactical Progressive Jul 20 #175

I don't remember exactly, but I was desperately looking for a discussion forum Crunchy Frog Jul 20 #164

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Once upon a time, there were " blogrolls", where sites would recommend other like minded sitrs getagrip_already Jul 20 #166

Link from Randi Rhodes' message board in 2005 Sedona Jul 20 #167

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Bartcop, I think sakabatou Jul 20 #171

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William Rivers Pitt WyLoochka Jul 20 #173

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Loved him malaise Jul 20 #182

I don't really remember. I know it was at my previous office location captain queeg Jul 20 #178

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I heard of du from bradblog questionseverything Jul 20 #185

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I was on Bill Maher's discussion forum and got tired applegrove Jul 20 #187

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I was refer to "DU" by the owner of a very conservative forum John Farmer Jul 20 #192

I have since been banned permanently. John Farmer Jul 20 #196

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After November of 2016 mbusby Jul 20 #193

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Andy Stephenson coffeenap Jul 20 #194

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I came after seeing it referenced on the Kerry blog and Daily Kos in 2004 karynnj Jul 20 #195

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Media Horse post 9/11 meadowlander Jul 20 #199

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I heard about it on a now defunct site - Right Nation. ChazII Jul 20 #203

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Buzzflash, thru one of the many links they had for other sites. Lars39 Jul 20 #204

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I am an outcast wiseowljedi Jul 20 #207

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The Top Ten Conservative Idiots of the Week.. Grumpy Old Guy Jul 20 #208

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Bartcop back in the Bush 2 era sky_masterson Jul 20 #210

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Saw A Link Posted On Democrats.com WiVoter Jul 20 #214

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Saturday, January 20, 2001 - George Bush's Inauguration after stealing the election kskiska Jul 20 #216

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Getting a little long in the tooth kskiska Jul 20 #221

I think from Bartcop in 2003 mockmonkey Jul 20 #217

Thank you, mockmonkey. but you are here and we are so glad that you are. debm55 Jul 20 #219

I was contributing daily to a US political/satirical blog in 2008, Emrys Jul 20 #220

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Draft Clark Yahoo group 2003 and William Rivers Pitt mia Jul 21 #222

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Kick! Niagara Jul 21 #225

I honestly don't remember Jilly_in_VA Jul 21 #226

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Saw a link from another forum where I was an admin SARose Jul 21 #227

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Thanks, deb SARose Jul 21 #231

2001. Actually I came here through Free Republic via a Will Pitt article underpants Jul 21 #228

Thank you underpants. I lurked there during Bush Jr. years. It was and is a cesspool, Wanted to see what they were debm55 Jul 21 #233

The John Kerry IRC chat was shutting down Starry Messenger Jul 21 #232

Thank you very much, Starry Messenger. I will never frogive what the repubs did to him. Glad you are here. debm55 Jul 21 #235

Buzzflash and Bartcop The Blue Flower Jul 21 #234

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The chaotic flurry of hateful comments attached to every political Yahoo article I came Skya Rhen Jul 21 #237