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TwilightZone

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167. Telling people to STFU is kinda disrespectful.

Sun Jul 21, 2024, 08:59 PM

Jul 21

Just sayin'.

I think it's also a bit disrespectful for people to insist, based on no personal knowledge of the conversations, that they know exactly what happened in the president's conversations with family and staff and exactly why the president declined to run again. It's remarkably presumptuous.

His brother says it was about the president's overall health and vitality and the need for Trump to lose in November. Maybe some billionaire paid him to say that.

(Sarcasm, in case it wasn't blatantly obvious)

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To All Those Who Pushed Biden into Withdrawing: [View all] MineralMan Jul 21 OP

And don't ask me for money. sinkingfeeling Jul 21 #1

No more money, no more time. My vote is all you will get. we can do it Jul 21 #5

But defeating Trump is just as important now as it was yesterday. n/t femmedem Jul 21 #28

Yes, but piddyprints Jul 21 #68

Kamala carries that key with her, radius777 Jul 21 #182

No she does not. piddyprints Jul 22 #232

Which is why my money is only going to Harris and my Congressman MistakenLamb Jul 21 #82

Money decided our ticket...I will vote of course. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #110

General elections, I vote blue no matter who. Primaries? I hold grudges. Zipgun Jul 22 #227

I get that, but we need to get support behind whoever is running for thinkingagain Jul 21 #32

I will vote BigMin28 Jul 21 #176

Clooney is dead to me Wicked Blue Jul 21 #181

Yep thinkingagain Jul 21 #191

No more Clooney movies for me either. GoreWon2000 Jul 21 #193

I now hate Clooney Demsrule86 Jul 21 #200

you mean George DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM Clooney? diva77 Jul 21 #218

absolutely. You said what I was feeling, ThinkingAgain FemDemERA Jul 21 #197

That's a mistake. The nominee will need help Happy Hoosier Jul 21 #80

The donors after they decide if Kamala can or can't be the nominee are of course going to help. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #134

They'll be donating that 90 million dollar MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #179

You made me laugh for the first time today...thanks Demsrule86 Jul 21 #201

GIve directly to Harris, and downballot candidates. FoxNewsSucks Jul 21 #180

Oh, man Cuthbert Allgood Jul 21 #131

We at least got to pick our own nominee in a primary back in the day. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #135

Not everybody gets their pony. Or so I've heard. Cuthbert Allgood Jul 21 #144

I guess I just got used to voting and not have some rich asshole take it away from me after the primary. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #202

Right only democratic leaders and donors choie Jul 21 #209

Mega donors got their pony. n/t DiamondShark Jul 22 #224

I think we need to set our BlueSky3 Jul 21 #155

I will vote assuming I can...which is anyone's guess. I live in Ohio. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #203

I already started receiving texts Desert grandma Jul 21 #7

ONLY donate via Act Blue Attilatheblond Jul 21 #21

Act blue is accepting Progressive dog Jul 21 #118

Yes, but there are a lot of people getting a lot of texts with links to donate Attilatheblond Jul 21 #120

Actblue doesn't have to be reached Progressive dog Jul 21 #122

PULEEZ, been using Act Blue for years Attilatheblond Jul 21 #132

I report those all as junk. ActBlue is the way to go!! AllyCat Jul 21 #158

Yes, all the Big Money Donors PatSeg Jul 21 #96

Don't support the big money thinkingagain Jul 21 #105

I know what you're saying, but it is too soon for me PatSeg Jul 21 #112

Me too Bettie Jul 21 #147

So it's not just me PatSeg Jul 21 #150

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #183

Good point about the donors PatSeg Jul 21 #204

We were always at war with EastAsia Wicked Blue Jul 22 #237

And it bothers me PatSeg Jul 22 #240

EXACTLY Wicked Blue Jul 22 #241

A lot of people are minimizing our anger and disillusionment. LakeArenal Jul 21 #172

Thank you PatSeg Jul 21 #174

I'm sure I'll get over it, but I feel exactly the same way today. This was an underhanded coup AFAIC. Tarheel_Dem Jul 21 #188

Yes, I'm sure we will move on, PatSeg Jul 21 #207

Data, not money is what forced him out. radius777 Jul 21 #185

He was attacked by the media and donors...so fuck them all. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #199

What Demsrule86 said PatSeg Jul 21 #210

Whose fault was that? choie Jul 21 #213

The public pressure ibegurpard Jul 21 #216

Private pressure wasn't working so they had to go public. radius777 Jul 21 #220

That's an extremely misguided position to take. ZZenith Jul 21 #102

Really? Desert grandma Jul 21 #115

As am I. ZZenith Jul 21 #126

Misguided?!? Rude to say the very least. Throwing our votes out was misguided. we can do it Jul 21 #125

Yes, misguided. ZZenith Jul 21 #129

And you know all of this how? Desert grandma Jul 21 #157

No, he talked to me. ZZenith Jul 21 #159

You do realize this was all put in motion by choie Jul 21 #215

I realize that the Democratic Party had some very serious problems on its hands. ZZenith Jul 22 #223

Oh really...I thought only big donors mattered since the drove Biden out of the primary he won. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #137

But clearly, given that the big donors made all the decisions...and Biden was abandoned by elected Democrats...they Demsrule86 Jul 21 #205

Exactly. LakeArenal Jul 21 #104

Same happened here orangecrush Jul 21 #165

Now you are orangecrushed? LakeArenal Jul 21 #170

I'm terrified orangecrush Jul 21 #171

And we shall remain so for quite awhile I'm afraid. LakeArenal Jul 21 #173

I guess we'll find out how soon MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #186

You and me both RazorbackExpat Jul 22 #222

I'm with you. Already told 3 to fuck off/ report spam.. they didn't even wait an hour. we can do it Jul 21 #123

Our little donations was not what they were after. StarryNite Jul 21 #39

Well bully for them. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #138

I just donated to Biden (again) last night Dave says Jul 21 #41

That money goes to Kamala bearsfootball516 Jul 21 #76

You think she will be the nominee...I am not sure of that at all. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #140

Yes Wavelight Jul 21 #168

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #189

Same here FireChild Jul 21 #130

Do you want to win, or do you want to feel righteous? musicblind Jul 21 #133

I have donated to Biden-Harris and will continue to do so, but will not sinkingfeeling Jul 21 #136

If that is the case, then I misunderstood the intentions if your post, musicblind Jul 21 #141

It's okay. The OP was addressed to all those who pushed Biden's exit. sinkingfeeling Jul 21 #146

Same here Desert grandma Jul 21 #162

big money donor are now picking our candidates...don't lecture me about my kids. I played by the rules. There was a Demsrule86 Jul 21 #208

You need to understand that this may cause us to lose...I hope not. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #214

What I would say is, "You got what you wanted now get off your whiny asses & GOTV!" CrispyQ Jul 21 #2

Consider this: newdayneeded Jul 21 #3

OK, whatever you say. MineralMan Jul 21 #9

Based on your personal conversations with him about his decision, I assume? n/t Ms. Toad Jul 21 #40

Was your reply intended for MineralMan or the person he was replying too? bluewater Jul 21 #83

I was responding to MineralMan - Ms. Toad Jul 21 #85

Thank You. I thought you might have been responding to the prior poster's assertions bluewater Jul 21 #95

I see the confusion. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 21 #97

Alwayshopefull Alwayshopefull Jul 21 #166

Yes, being stabbed in the back repeatedly is going to mess up anyone's health. LisaL Jul 21 #10

Yes, and all those gd knives sticking out of his back StarryNite Jul 21 #42

Al Franken on steroids. LakeArenal Jul 21 #108

This MustLoveBeagles Jul 21 #142

His situation seems almost quaint at this point MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #190

Some of the same are ready today. LakeArenal Jul 21 #196

WHY? Desert grandma Jul 21 #11

Can you tell me with 100% newdayneeded Jul 21 #51

Didn't he say he was ready to campaign for the Biden/Harris agenda? AZSkiffyGeek Jul 21 #81

Then why soandso Jul 21 #45

Biden doesn't send those tweets, they're from social media staffers. bearsfootball516 Jul 21 #77

I'm aware soandso Jul 21 #90

I've worked on reasonably large campaigns before. bearsfootball516 Jul 21 #91

FDR couldn't jog up steps. Not everyone who ages physically livetohike Jul 21 #53

72 is way different than 82. newdayneeded Jul 21 #54

Use it or lose it! n/t livetohike Jul 21 #57

Any waterfalls by you? newdayneeded Jul 21 #60

Sadly no, but I'm looking forward to cooler weather livetohike Jul 21 #65

Wi and the UP have huge newdayneeded Jul 21 #87

We've been to the UP several times. I love livetohike Jul 21 #106

You should put Tallulah Gorge and Falls on your list. It is not that far from you. japple Jul 21 #103

Because it is not true...money decides primaries now I guess. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #143

Agreed AverageJoe Jul 21 #4

i said to my wife a little while ago...... Takket Jul 21 #6

Post removed Post removed Jul 21 #100

I'm writing Harris a big check as soon as it's clear MontanaFarmer Jul 21 #8

Not so sure about that. Seems like they are trying to push her aside too. (Not me) Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #14

I will also get behind her 100% ananda Jul 21 #16

Ditto Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #12

I will donate to VP Harris as soon as a website FemDemERA Jul 21 #13

I would pay big bucks to watch her kick tRumps butt on the debate stage. nt ImNotGod Jul 21 #63

She needs to be the candidate...I think they may try to get rid of her. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #145

Stop being divisive. We're all on the same side. Do better. blurplenurple Jul 21 #15

That's probably a good idea. MineralMan Jul 21 #19

You're just making my point. blurplenurple Jul 21 #24

Oh, I'm always respectful. MineralMan Jul 21 #26

This makes me sad. blurplenurple Jul 21 #36

LOL! MineralMan Jul 21 #38

That was a pat on the head, MineralMan choie Jul 21 #219

Stick with it OnDoutside Jul 21 #86

What is productive about big donors blackmailing us into getting rid of our nominee? Demsrule86 Jul 21 #153

2/3 of Dem voters wanted Biden to drop out. radius777 Jul 21 #192

I call bullshit on that. He was the nominee...and changing this late is not a good thing. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #198

How very con-vee-nient that there's a poll Wicked Blue Jul 22 #242

Even when you agree with some people mercuryblues Jul 21 #119

Telling people to STFU is kinda disrespectful. TwilightZone Jul 21 #167

. . . niyad Jul 22 #229

Well Said! Chasing Dreams Jul 21 #25

The attacks on folks without a lot of posts is weird. blurplenurple Jul 21 #35

Yes, I have low post count but have been here for years. Akacia Jul 21 #50

I'm glad you're here. femmedem Jul 21 #52

I'm on your side padfun Jul 21 #56

Especially folks who have been here for a while...I wasn't able to post much until I left my job. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #154

Try not to take it personally. TwilightZone Jul 21 #169

It really can be a tough room Lulu KC Jul 29 #244

Bye then Felicia. we can do it Jul 21 #31

Why did you say that to me? blurplenurple Jul 21 #47

Welcome to DU, blurplenurple. Your voice is needed on DU. mia Jul 21 #61

Hey, this is a very difficult evening for many or us, probably the most difficult since the last but one election night Emrys Jul 21 #89

Well said. bluewater Jul 21 #111

"sanctimonious or engaging in gaslighting" - WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT???? Emrys Jul 21 #113

Yes, Heaven forfend! lol bluewater Jul 21 #116

You belong. As with any group we have a few mean spirits. Polly Hennessey Jul 21 #93

LoL are you Polly7 ? stonecutter357 Jul 21 #184

That was rude and unwelcoming. femmedem Jul 21 #99

blurplenurple posted: "Stop being divisive. ... Do better." bluewater Jul 21 #92

I thought similar MorbidButterflyTat Jul 21 #195

Nicely put. bluewater Jul 22 #221

Some people BoycottTimHortons Jul 22 #228

I still have Joe's back and will support his decision to step aside.. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 21 #17

There was no decision, Joe was forced out. I hope on the day after the election...you guys are still happy and we won. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #148

+1 Hiawatha Pete Jul 21 #18

It's past time to campaign against the felon mcar Jul 21 #20

I agree bdamomma Jul 21 #43

Do we have a nominee? I keep hearing about an open convetion which would leave us what a month or so before Demsrule86 Jul 21 #211

The nominee will be decided before the convention whopis01 Jul 22 #231

Looks like and hope I am wrong Blue Full Moon Jul 21 #22

Well, since I have no idea how much knowledge you have, MineralMan Jul 21 #23

Can't do it. Kamala has to count the votes and we will not get anyone approved in Congress. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #212

I just unsubscriped from one nt XanaDUer2 Jul 21 #27

as colin powell told dubya back in the day regarding iraq: it's like Pottery Barn--you break it, you bought it fishwax Jul 21 #29

Yup. StarryNite Jul 21 #72

I agree with you Mineral Man. debm55 Jul 21 #30

We have work to do!!! BlueInPhilly Jul 21 #33

Except he did run. And I voted for him. And now my vote is fucked. Iggo Jul 21 #44

Exactly soandso Jul 21 #55

That is the bottom line. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #149

Many weren't allowed to vote at all whopis01 Jul 22 #233

Biden ----never---- promised he would not run for re-election. emulatorloo Jul 21 #127

Yeah ...funny how they need to justify caving to big donors which is what happened. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #151

Big donors didn't raise 47 mill in 7 hours. It was small donation, showing approval with their dollars. Real democrats Pisces Jul 21 #206

Post removed Post removed Jul 21 #34

What makes you think they "wanted" this? yowzayowzayowza Jul 21 #37

Unless Biden withdrew because of COVID concerns on his own health, valleyrogue Jul 21 #46

Wait for the gaslighting. Iggo Jul 21 #48

So two thirds of Democrats should STFU onandup Jul 21 #49

And now we proceed with the situation we have. Ocelot II Jul 21 #58

Exactly. But will we? MineralMan Jul 21 #59

I can speak only for myself, but I intend to be more active this election Ocelot II Jul 21 #62

We'll see what happens for sure Deminpenn Jul 21 #71

I just hope this nextchoice is it. Norbert Jul 21 #64

STFU, and open your wallets CanonRay Jul 21 #66

Not exactly helpful. Electrolite Jul 21 #69

I'm talking about the big donors who started this CanonRay Jul 21 #98

OK, I see now. Electrolite Jul 21 #178

It's over and done with. Nobody needs to STFU Autumn Jul 21 #67

I was not one of those people. I would like to also point out BootinUp Jul 21 #70

Today we mourn, get angry and scream to the heavens peggysue2 Jul 21 #73

I don't think they should STFU. They were told to STFU for quite a while. SYFROYH Jul 21 #74

Doesn't work that way Baggies Jul 21 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Jul 21 #78

Thank you orangecrush Jul 21 #79

Stronger words, please RandomNumbers Jul 21 #84

It was not quite as simple as that. anamnua Jul 21 #88

Fuck You Father Time!!! Bongo Prophet Jul 21 #160

I didn't see many on here pushing for Biden to drop out. Xolodno Jul 21 #94

K/R ColinC Jul 21 #101

Amen JustAnotherGen Jul 21 #107

History will likely prove them correct. honest.abe Jul 21 #109

I particularly don't want to hear a peep out of Clooney. nt Susan Calvin Jul 21 #114

So now, can we expect those "rich people" who wanted Biden out 3825-87867 Jul 21 #117

Many things can be true at once ibegurpard Jul 21 #121

Yes. alarimer Jul 21 #124

No, I think that is the wrong attitude. totodeinhere Jul 21 #128

Now now Sympthsical Jul 21 #139

And they better donate a shit ton of money Island Blue Jul 21 #152

I'M SO PISSED I CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT. a kennedy Jul 21 #156

At a few minutes after your post musette_sf Jul 21 #161

Me too. Demsrule86 Jul 21 #217

We better win now. lees1975 Jul 21 #163

Ya heard! Prairie Gates Jul 21 #164

Consider also, others asking would be better than just stepping down out of the blue. Festivito Jul 21 #175

Thank you. LisaM Jul 21 #177

It's on them now... Hugin Jul 21 #187

Change the rules so that this never happens again GoreWon2000 Jul 21 #194

Taking this to the courts. The Grand Illuminist Jul 22 #235

The DNC needs to change its rules GoreWon2000 Jul 22 #236

More like '68 Chicago. The Grand Illuminist Jul 22 #238

That's my worry/ GoreWon2000 Jul 22 #239

It was what needed to happen. Sky Jewels Jul 22 #225

You first. BannonsLiver Jul 22 #226

They probably won't though imo Meowmee Jul 22 #230

To all those saying they won't donate to anyone who urged Biden to drop out: I hope you'll reconsider onenote Jul 22 #234

Don't think they will, but, we can shut them up, plain and simple. republianmushroom Jul 22 #243