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LizBeth

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173. Well golly red, I would too and saying on national tv Dems historically turn their

Sat Jul 27, 2024, 09:52 AM

Jul 2024

back on working class, they are a party of big money and Harris will lose is not really how I see we attain that goal. We were minding our business well leaving Sanders alone. Sanders got on tv and let the nation know Harris will lose. So wtf aren't you addressing the person doing the harm on a national stage?

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Just saw Bernie Sanders on Ali Velshi, where Ali was asking him why he hasn't [View all] JohnSJ Jul 2024 OP

one trick pony Skittles Jul 2024 #1

Saw that senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #2

I guarantee you it has something to do with Israel Skittles Jul 2024 #6

Sanders has been more critical of Israel than Harris. (nt) appmanga Jul 2024 #8

well then what is your theory Skittles Jul 2024 #10

Yes Duncanpup Jul 2024 #209

Well, he supported Biden, so maybe he is still upset about that? LisaL Jul 2024 #3

Maybe he just has an issue with women leaders. LizBeth Jul 2024 #19

Interesting.... kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #36

... sheshe2 Jul 2024 #55

Yep! I will never forget. LizBeth Jul 2024 #57

I will never forget and never forgive. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #69

Shit... that is the rest of it. Lol. I forgot. Getting old. Bah hhahahaha, thanks. LizBeth Jul 2024 #72

You made the point perfectly. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #99

But but but... ya, that. LizBeth Jul 2024 #100

I believe it's important to avoid making assumptions about others' motives David__77 Jul 2024 #76

I believe when a person tells me who they are. LizBeth Jul 2024 #77

Who did this and what did they say? David__77 Jul 2024 #80

Really? Reallllllly? edisdead Jul 2024 #93

Drawing A Conclusion Is Not Making An Assumption The Magistrate Jul 2024 #153

You are being too kind. comradebillyboy Jul 2024 #155

Now That's Not Something I'm Often Accused Of, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2024 #165

Correct. I knew it. betsuni Jul 2024 #85

No. Before Senator Saunders decided to run Tweedy Jul 2024 #108

I disagree. LizBeth Jul 2024 #111

With which? Tweedy Jul 2024 #115

If so then why is he campaigning for her in NH today and Maine tomorrow? nt cliffside Jul 2024 #109

All he did in the clip you gave was reinforce the Repub take care of working class LizBeth Jul 2024 #121

I heard him say that the Repubs did a better job with their messaging to working class people although cliffside Jul 2024 #129

Thanks for Perspective displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #152

"19. Maybe he just has an issue with women leaders." You know better than that, LizBeth. BComplex Jul 2024 #177

Well if that is not condescending with a dose of parental patting on the head. LizBeth Jul 2024 #181

The same way Pelosi, Jeffries, Schiff et all choie Jul 2024 #208

Not the conversation. LizBeth Jul 2024 #212

The Obamas didn't endorse until just today. I'm sure there are reasons.. Deuxcents Jul 2024 #4

The Obama endorsement was clearly staged and intended to be last relayerbob Jul 2024 #21

100%!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2024 #103

Twice on Ali's show, Bernie said he'd do everything he could to get her elected ... Intractable Jul 2024 #5

What a diva kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #17

Yea, I wouldn't give Ari the get either. SalviaBlue Jul 2024 #50

But too many are too quick to dismiss him based on??? GreenWave Jul 2024 #90

Perhaps he is set to introduce her with an endorsement at a future event? Freethinker65 Jul 2024 #7

That's what I think too. They filmed the Obama endorsement at her first campaign event but delayed it to yesterday, so OnDoutside Jul 2024 #147

He is not special. He is not Obama. And you dont preempt it with Dems historically turn back LizBeth Jul 2024 #168

You want all Dems united, and he's been a significant figure on the left. There's no reason that I know of as to why he OnDoutside Jul 2024 #172

Did you see he has endorsed her ? Clearly they're spacing OnDoutside Jul 2024 #234

Bless his heart. Who knows. Srkdqltr Jul 2024 #9

who cares Skittles Jul 2024 #13

No comment. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #11

Takes ya back, doesn't it? LongtimeAZDem Jul 2024 #75

It sure does. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #87

Takes me back to " are we going to throw away an election, over old bs?" questionseverything Jul 2024 #242

He is such a .... never mind. The only hides I get talking about an Independent on Du LizBeth Jul 2024 #12

I am thinking of the.....BS that helped to torpedo the last woman who ran for president Skittles Jul 2024 #23

Fuckin' right. Never forget. LizBeth Jul 2024 #24

I have never fogotten Skittles Jul 2024 #31

I haven't either. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #38

wrong place LizBeth Jul 2024 #46

As I recall, Bernie endorsed Hillary B.See Jul 2024 #42

yeah, he eventually got around to it Skittles Jul 2024 #47

Mmmmmmmmmmm, kinda sorta a litttttttle bit. Pulling teeth LizBeth Jul 2024 #48

No further comment (tos) B.See Jul 2024 #59

Nobody cares... He does not matter. Just means I can go around saying I was right, you were wrong LizBeth Jul 2024 #64

LOL.. if u say so B.See Jul 2024 #67

Yep.... LizBeth Jul 2024 #73

He seems to matter enough to get you and others all wound up over him yet again. Celerity Jul 2024 #166

+1 great post! Emile Jul 2024 #167

Because he supported an old white man he gets a pass with a woman saying she will lose LizBeth Jul 2024 #169

I agree with Sanders when he says: Celerity Jul 2024 #178

You got it right, and he's doubling down looks like. Nixie Jul 2024 #215

Good point! betsuni Jul 2024 #225

Feels like maybe some people are playing catch up Sympthsical Jul 2024 #179

+1. You always employ your choice of words rather brilliantly, even on the main subject we we slightly disagree on (over Celerity Jul 2024 #180

Thank you, and the sentiment is mutual Sympthsical Jul 2024 #239

thank you for the kind words Celerity Jul 2024 #240

Will never forget that. edisdead Jul 2024 #94

You've got a real chip on your shoulder choie Jul 2024 #230

very much warranted Skittles Jul 2024 #232

I'm sorry but I no longer have any patience w/him kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #14

Same here musette_sf Jul 2024 #154

I love Bernie but he's starting to wear out his welcome with me Tribetime Jul 2024 #15

I think he is aging out of politics and he knows it, and does not like it. Srkdqltr Jul 2024 #16

He and the most Progressive members displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #52

Yes, he is very comfortable with a white old man. We get that. Good for him. LizBeth Jul 2024 #56

You don't think he will support displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #68

Actually, AOC also supported Biden till the displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #83

And further actually displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #145

+1 Emile Jul 2024 #146

Your guess is as good as mine. Biden didn't want to be pushed either no matter that he was better than all the rest. Srkdqltr Jul 2024 #70

So Bernie's solution is newdayneeded Jul 2024 #171

Same as he ever was relayerbob Jul 2024 #18

You from Vermont? displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #61

Maybe he should stick to Vermont local issues relayerbob Jul 2024 #65

Poverty, health care costs displacedvermoter Jul 2024 #79

His actual record of results speaks for itself relayerbob Jul 2024 #82

His lack of any actual accomplishment comradebillyboy Jul 2024 #156

Well there's this: EX500rider Jul 2024 #206

He's not going to do that at the behest Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #20

Asking the man if he supports Harris is a "shit" question? Fug! LizBeth Jul 2024 #26

He will make an official announcement Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #32

Betcha.... LizBeth Jul 2024 #37

He ain't THAT special. He needs to get over himself. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #45

The difference is of course... edisdead Jul 2024 #96

The question was from Ali if he'd endorse her. Deuxcents Jul 2024 #33

As I said above why Obama waited and not a single other Dem has.... for a reason. LizBeth Jul 2024 #39

am thinking adding dental, hearing, and vision to medicare would be a popular campaign promise nt msongs Jul 2024 #22

She's been promoting it for years: "To include dental, vision, and hearing services with Medicare coverage." betsuni Jul 2024 #132

Maybe waiting for labor unions moondust Jul 2024 #25

What Democrat has "waited" to support Harris? Obama did it out of respect to the active LizBeth Jul 2024 #28

Post removed Post removed Jul 2024 #27

Yep. Alert stalked. murielm99 Jul 2024 #29

yep LizBeth Jul 2024 #30

Yep. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #35

Yeah. orange jar Jul 2024 #43

He's not a Democrat so it isn't against the rules. kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2024 #51

You wanna bit? Lol. White male privilege? I dunno. LizBeth Jul 2024 #58

Hahahahahahahaha.... edisdead Jul 2024 #98

Read the rules again. Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #183

False Celerity Jul 2024 #237

Totally FALSE Emile Jul 2024 #241

..... obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #62

Yes. betsuni Jul 2024 #89

I keep reminding people RandySF Jul 2024 #34

No, he is not. LizBeth Jul 2024 #40

Well, he is 82, so im sure he isnt angling for vp..... getagrip_already Jul 2024 #41

He isn't ready yet. Probably because he wants a plank or two TheKentuckian Jul 2024 #44

Our 50 year-old African Grey Parrot Abolishinist Jul 2024 #49

lol Cha Jul 2024 #95

I wonder if they are just scheduling viva la Jul 2024 #53

He's so unnecessarily tepid, and for what? orange jar Jul 2024 #54

Odd, considering he was all for Biden -- how about the other half of the ticket? Blue Owl Jul 2024 #60

Right??? Oh wait... LizBeth Jul 2024 #66

Bernie Gonna Bernie. He Can't Help It. Indykatie Jul 2024 #63

He will LostOne4Ever Jul 2024 #71

I'm not surprised it wasn't posted here, but a couple days ago he Nixie Jul 2024 #74

I was expecting it. Here it comes again. Democrats/Harris DO NOT ignore the working class, betsuni Jul 2024 #92

... LizBeth Jul 2024 #97

Its obvious what Senator Sanders means by "working class" MistakenLamb Jul 2024 #140

Yes, he thought white people began leaving the party because of economic anxiety but that happened betsuni Jul 2024 #142

I'd cut Bernie some slack. The impact of his oasis Jul 2024 #78

I do not think anyone thinks he or his endorsement matter. LizBeth Jul 2024 #81

I gotta believe his relevance has shrunk oasis Jul 2024 #86

He literally does not matter. Zero affect on whether he endorses Harris or not. LizBeth Jul 2024 #88

It has MistakenLamb Jul 2024 #141

Honestly I forgot he existed AkFemDem Jul 2024 #84

I find that interesting....but, somehow, not that surprising. FlyingPiggy Jul 2024 #91

To be clear, this was Ari Melber not yorkster Jul 2024 #101

Ali Velshi not Ari melber JohnSJ Jul 2024 #102

I missed this. Ali Velshi is usually yorkster Jul 2024 #104

Was Velshi sitting in for someone? yorkster Jul 2024 #133

He will. Gore1FL Jul 2024 #105

This is a Critical time. sheshe2 Jul 2024 #112

Nothing like going on TV and reinforcing for everyone Trump and Rep take care of working class LizBeth Jul 2024 #117

Gotta keep the bingo hall stirred up. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2024 #122

Oh, please orange jar Jul 2024 #130

Yep. nt Rob H. Jul 2024 #137

"Bernie Sanders ... speaks during a campaign stop at the Circle 9 Ranch Campground Bingo Hall ... ." betsuni Jul 2024 #138

Yes, Harris is just getting started less than a week already and Nixie Jul 2024 #216

Drama llamas gotta drama. demmiblue Jul 2024 #202

Is this irony? Nixie Jul 2024 #214

He is currently out campaigning for Harris, video clip was posted in Cable News clips ... cliffside Jul 2024 #106

Democrats have turned their back on working class people. Ya.... LizBeth Jul 2024 #114

Did you miss the part in the clip where he talked about getting big money out of politics, Citizens United etc cliffside Jul 2024 #124

Yes I heard him say big money in Dem party.... then mention citizen. So really what are they pulling out LizBeth Jul 2024 #126

Listen Again, he stated big money in Both parties, I'm not wasting my time taking down someone who votes cliffside Jul 2024 #127

Well, it is clear you cannot defend that interview. The only upside is this si typical Sanders and it LizBeth Jul 2024 #128

I'm done, believe what you want. nt cliffside Jul 2024 #131

Right in the clip he noted that he came from Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #184

In that rally he stated Harris will lose and in this interview he stated LizBeth Jul 2024 #187

Exactly and I agree the outrage is misplaced, just posted this link in another thread from NH ... cliffside Jul 2024 #210

Can anyone explain to me how Democrats and Harris ignore the working class? betsuni Jul 2024 #107

Wow... just wow. I was going to listen to him campaigning for Harris in a link above. LizBeth Jul 2024 #110

It was very strange, and frankly incoherent JohnSJ Jul 2024 #113

JFC. orange jar Jul 2024 #116

Just read this in Harris's book: betsuni Jul 2024 #119

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My theory is that since the Republican playbook is Tumbulu Jul 2024 #120

He didn't talk about her not being liberal enough. He talked about Dems historically turning back LizBeth Jul 2024 #123

Nothing important is going on there Kaleva Jul 2024 #125

He is holding out for some policy concessions. totodeinhere Jul 2024 #134

He is on tv telling the nation Dems have historically turned back on working class LizBeth Jul 2024 #136

".@BernieSanders at West Lebanon N.H. town hall: "She (Harris) is not going to win this election and she is going " Cha Jul 2024 #135

Never seen Harris be against Democratic policies and the working class. betsuni Jul 2024 #139

TY for your post! It's such a Negative way for Sanders to Cha Jul 2024 #205

AFL-CIO deputy director: "She has close ties to many unions." Evidently Sanders is unaware that Harris betsuni Jul 2024 #226

Mahalo for the AFL-CIO Statement.. And YET he chose to Cha Jul 2024 #229

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Simple, he wants something from her SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #143

But what does he want from her? She has supported every Biden policy. betsuni Jul 2024 #144

Better seats to the inauguration? SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2024 #170

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Sanders is good at damning with faint praise elocs Jul 2024 #149

a wee bit of a control issue.... samnsara Jul 2024 #151

Bernie is trying to get input into the issues like he did with Biden's push for what he would do in his Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #157

I would like to win the election. redgreenandblue Jul 2024 #158

Bernie Sanders is unlikely to help towards that goal. comradebillyboy Jul 2024 #160

Then what is the point of this thread? redgreenandblue Jul 2024 #161

Who is the person withholding his endorsement? comradebillyboy Jul 2024 #162

How many other senators haven't endorsed her yet? Are you criticizing them too? Emile Jul 2024 #163

Not Sanders. He endorsed Harris yesterday. I think Tester has not endorsed, but I highly doubt many on this thread care Celerity Jul 2024 #238

Weird. Also he's the unofficial spokesperson Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #185

I'm not required to love him or hold him in comradebillyboy Jul 2024 #193

Sure but this is not the time for amplifying Voltaire2 Jul 2024 #213

Exactly. That is exactly the argument. See, not so hard. LizBeth Jul 2024 #219

Well golly red, I would too and saying on national tv Dems historically turn their LizBeth Jul 2024 #173

IMHO happy feet Jul 2024 #164

Odd, isn't it? His full throated support of Biden mcar Jul 2024 #174

hmmmmm. Yep LizBeth Jul 2024 #175

I can't figure out why anyone would think Harris doesn't support the same policies. betsuni Jul 2024 #217

Yes, what could it possibly be? mcar Jul 2024 #228

It's been less than a week. Deep breaths. Sympthsical Jul 2024 #176

Good advice for Sanders as he is on national tv campaigning for Harris. He needs LizBeth Jul 2024 #182

I went through a bad break up in 2016 Sympthsical Jul 2024 #190

Ya... see, me calling out campaigning by painting Harris turning back on working LizBeth Jul 2024 #194

"huge fake scenario" Exactly. Nixie Jul 2024 #221

I think Sympthsical Jul 2024 #222

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Weird right? And even took it another post forward for more psychoanalysis. LizBeth Jul 2024 #224

None of what you said is true.... questionseverything Jul 2024 #243

He's fighting for his issues--that's good politics Bucky Jul 2024 #186

I havent been listening to Harris speeches as I am sure Sanders and you all have. So.... LizBeth Jul 2024 #188

Great question. So far she's playing it safe & non specific Bucky Jul 2024 #191

So Citizen United, check. At last having a general conversation, check. LizBeth Jul 2024 #195

He's already pledged to work fervently for her election & Trump's defeat Bucky Jul 2024 #196

See this is the bone I have. The pledge does not work when you make that LizBeth Jul 2024 #197

Fair enough. It'll all be done with and forgotten by the convention Bucky Jul 2024 #201

Maybe He Saving His Endorsement For The August Dem Convention..... global1 Jul 2024 #189

It matters to her more the sooner it comes. Bucky Jul 2024 #192

Sanders comment 4 days ago says it all. "I look forward to strongly supporting her" Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #198

In the interview Sanders did not say one positive thing about Harris. He did say LizBeth Jul 2024 #199

I don't have the answers you are looking for. But this is from 58 minutes ago Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #200

That man is awesome Bucky Jul 2024 #203

Bernie tweet this AM OneBlueDotS-Carolina Jul 2024 #204

The last thing we need is for him to try and extort Harris into supporting his crappy unpopular agenda. tritsofme Jul 2024 #207

Yeah just because majority of Americans support tuition free public college and Medicare for Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #211

His going to endorse her, the way I took it in another interview was that he just wanted to meet with her Quixote1818 Jul 2024 #218

Why excuse telling the nation the Democratic Party historically turns their back LizBeth Jul 2024 #220

That doesn't sound like a winning message for Democrats by spreading negative messaging Nixie Jul 2024 #227

The KHive Has Some Unlikely New Members: Bernie Stans LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2024 #231

Good! Thinking for oneself is very good. betsuni Jul 2024 #233

He has endorsed. redgreenandblue Jul 2024 #235

He was pulled to the Left. Harris does not ignore the working class, is pro-union, supports all betsuni Jul 2024 #236