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Dennis Donovan

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11. It's being simulcast on MSNBC with post debate analysis provided by Maddow, Psaki, Wallace, O'Donnell, et al

Tue Sep 10, 2024, 08:07 AM

Sep 2024

Since I'll be watching that outlet and not the ABC feed (which I don't have access to anyway), the fact-checking will not be in real-time.

Besides, given time constraints, attempting to fact-check Trump and his firehose of bullshit in real time would be nearly impossible. If ABC does its due-diligence and DOES do an honest post-debate fact-check/analysis, I would be pleasantly surprised.

This debate will be a shitshow no matter what because you have one candidate committed to talking policy (and, hopefully, enough time for *some* real-time fact-checking of her opponent) and the other committed to talking crazy bullshit, obvious lies and ad-hominem attacks.

The debate is a lose-lose proposition for the VP, but demanded by a small part of the electorate (the "undecideds" who can't be bothered to pay attention to the Trump danger vortex) because "they don't know enough about VP Harris to make a decision."

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ABC Is Saying They Will Not Fact Check During the Debate [View all] bdamomma Sep 2024 OP

Anybody who supports him knows he lies. His lying is his trademark. Fact checking won't do anything... ColinC Sep 2024 #1

They already know his lies. They could be prepared with chryons across the bottom of the screen to correct his lies. Lonestarblue Sep 2024 #12

In the first debate with Biden Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #20

Do you know which outlets fact checked the first one? Susan Calvin Sep 2024 #54

PBS for one Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #56

PBS is defintely doing it for this one again Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #57

BBC will be Not Me Sep 2024 #62

"Anybody who supports him..." Like the media? dchill Sep 2024 #25

Of course they are not producing a presidential debate, they are producing a reality show. Facts just clutter things up. Walleye Sep 2024 #2

Well said! rurallib Sep 2024 #38

Precisely malaise Sep 2024 #59

They will allow him to blanketly lie and make up shit...................... Lovie777 Sep 2024 #3

He is sure to quack it up and his "jokes" are not funny or well delivered, please proceed Rally Speech Bozo! Brainfodder Sep 2024 #4

Kamala does not need a fact check. kentuck Sep 2024 #5

a fact check azureblue Sep 2024 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #51

Yes media Macrophylla Sep 2024 #6

Trump knows that he can basically get away with anything debate related at this point. Hugin Sep 2024 #7

AlwaysBroadcastingCrap UpInArms Sep 2024 #8

Facilitate not Mediate superpatriotman Sep 2024 #9

They are complicit SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2024 #10

It's being simulcast on MSNBC with post debate analysis provided by Maddow, Psaki, Wallace, O'Donnell, et al Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 #11

Anything stopping Kamala from bringing a RED light with her, then when it's her respnose time bluestarone Sep 2024 #13

good idea orthoclad Sep 2024 #16

Agree! Also the red light should be on all bluestarone Sep 2024 #17

I couldn't find a petition orthoclad Sep 2024 #14

hmmm.. bdamomma Sep 2024 #21

Thanks! orthoclad Sep 2024 #50

Kamala Harris will be fine. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 2024 #15

Scared of the orange one no doubt. Boycott their advertisers. Hotler Sep 2024 #18

Yes, boycotting works! ananda Sep 2024 #48

Sure enough dalton99a Sep 2024 #19

Who didn't see that act of journalism malpractice coming? Efilroft Sul Sep 2024 #22

ABC cares nothing about letting the truth be known. lpbk2713 Sep 2024 #23

So ABC is sanctioning outright lying to the American people. News organization? Honesty? Integrity? Firestorm49 Sep 2024 #24

ABC will support and defend every lie. Zilli Sep 2024 #26

This is why we need to stop engaging the legacy press altogether Baltimike Sep 2024 #27

THIS onecaliberal Sep 2024 #53

Mainstream media wants Donald - TBF Sep 2024 #28

"Don-OLD, that was such a collection of lies. I will leave fact checking to our hosts, so here's my proposal" RainCaster Sep 2024 #29

Yet Again... Mr. Mustard 2023 Sep 2024 #30

They can't, the fact check scroll would still be running an hour after the debate. Cheezoholic Sep 2024 #31

Roy Cohn bdamomma Sep 2024 #63

Fact checking one lie distracts from the series of lies bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #32

As much as I'd like fact checking what the media really needs to is show the story of his lies underpants Sep 2024 #34

That's up to VP Harris. Easy enough to say, "I can't respond to all my opponent's lies in one minute, but let me address Silent Type Sep 2024 #33

Cowards DemonGoddess Sep 2024 #35

For the Life of me, timoteus Sep 2024 #36

As "good" sanewashers would be expected NOT to do Zambero Sep 2024 #37

Moderators will do a rotten job Wild blueberry Sep 2024 #39

They probably determined it's impossible. Every word out of his mouth is a lie. Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #40

corporate media once again gives help to the (R) candidate rurallib Sep 2024 #41

They're a joke...a very bad joke ramapo Sep 2024 #42

"There is no way to fact-check this guy in real time" DinahMoeHum Sep 2024 #43

If I were Harris DFW Sep 2024 #44

Guaranteed they WILL "fact check" Harris and not Trump Mr.WeRP Sep 2024 #45

The fact that his supporters are happy about this Thrill Sep 2024 #47

Why mess up the debate with the truth nowforever Sep 2024 #49

At Least Ask Some Tough Questions roscoeroscoe Sep 2024 #52

Well that would give an advantage to the liar and cheater, wouldn't it ABC? Blue Owl Sep 2024 #55

Of course not senseandsensibility Sep 2024 #58

Here is a good article from Poynter saying why it should be done... Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #60

Of Course.. Lazy Asses... and they know they Should. Cha Sep 2024 #61

I guess this wan't true Renew Deal Sep 2024 #64