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moniss

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77. I would very much be in favor of

Wed Oct 2, 2024, 02:17 AM

Oct 2

dramatically increasing the penalties for this kind of activity aimed at elections. For example right now in most states if you vandalize someone's yard signs the cops and the DA are handing out a slap on the wrist if even that. I remember one instance in Wisconsin where they had the perp on tape. It was the daughter of a local elected official. She got a visit from the cops and a lecture.

How about for things like vandalizing, intimidating, electioneering outside the polls, sending phony information meant to misinform about what day or where to vote etc. we make the mandatory penalty 3 years in jail? How about for these acts like described in the OP we make the penalty mandatory 25 years and if physical harm occurs the penalty can go to 50 years?

I know I might sound harsh but I'm done with the slap on the wrist crap for election crimes and I feel the same about internet crimes. Put up a phony web site and scam people you do 10 years mandatory.

Yes I know it will never happen and the slap on the wrist will be the normal response. It's why campaign finance violations are laughed at by the guilty parties. But maybe if it meant 5 years mandatory in jail it might have an impact. As long as we had enforcers who didn't "define away" charges.

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"My daughter is a county clerk in charge of handling elections for a large county in Michigan. The FBI came in ..." [View all] FelineOverlord Oct 1 OP

First, prayers for your daughter's safety.. Joinfortmill Oct 1 #1

Not my daughter FelineOverlord Oct 1 #2

Read it again... Think. Again. Oct 1 #4

But there apparently is armed security of some sort when leaving and entering the building per article. Biophilic Oct 1 #6

Good, I just wish the doj was much more aggressive.... Think. Again. Oct 1 #11

Actually, couldn't agree with you more. Biophilic Oct 1 #14

I can't find any corroborating articles. mysteryowl Oct 1 #69

Oddly, I haven't read many reports... Think. Again. Oct 1 #3

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ..... AloeVera Oct 1 #5

Sounds like he needs a CPAP to me ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #19

Lol. AloeVera Oct 1 #26

My college roommates said I was the worst snorer they ever knew ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #27

I have it too. AloeVera Oct 1 #29

I got my CP two years ago BlueKota Oct 1 #34

I was horrified to learn I was having 82 hourly ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #40

Maybe you should look a little harder. Garland started the Election Threats Taskforce and Bev54 Oct 1 #54

20? Out of hundreds of incidents? Think. Again. Oct 1 #59

FFS, they are arresting and trying those they can catch. You are so bloody anti Garland Bev54 Oct 1 #60

You're correct, I am extremely anti-garland. Think. Again. Oct 1 #62

It is clouding your judgement when you make blanket statements that have no basis in truth. Bev54 Oct 1 #63

My statements are based on... Think. Again. Oct 1 #64

Your statements are based on your dislike of Garland and the rest of us should not have Bev54 Oct 1 #65

Please, don't lie... Think. Again. Oct 1 #66

The point is when it is pointed out to you that you are wrong, you double down. Bev54 Oct 1 #68

I do tend to "double down" when someone lies to make me look wrong. Just a quirk of mine, I guess. Think. Again. Oct 2 #78

Lies, get serious, the only one who lied was you and it seems to be a quirk of yours for sure Bev54 Oct 2 #80

No, no, it was only you who lied when you lied that I said... Think. Again. Oct 2 #83

After Trump is gone, we'll still have to deal with his idiot followers for years to come progressoid Oct 1 #7

That is because the idiot followers were here before that orange gibbon was. OldBaldy1701E Oct 1 #10

Yep. They used to be ignored and would lurk in the corners progressoid Oct 1 #12

Yep. The MAGA problem is a Republican problem, and it doesn't end with Trump. Beartracks Oct 1 #22

They will all need bdamomma Oct 1 #61

Usually because they are so ignorant, they don't believe in psychiatry or counseling. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 1 #75

But many will slink back under the rocks they USED to hide under. oldsoftie Oct 1 #73

So it will be like soldierant Oct 1 #76

This is not America bernieb Oct 1 #8

I distrust the veracity of any X posts by unknown persons in the days before and after Nov 5. ancianita Oct 1 #9

I agree rogerballard Oct 1 #28

Good. I agree with all your reasons. ancianita Oct 1 #32

Me, too ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #42

County Clerk? Large County? Random X post? Sounds like the random emails that my dad used to send. LeftInTX Oct 1 #47

In answer to your last question, no. With one exception -- ancianita Oct 1 #50

Has an elected official ever been put into the Witness Protection Program? LeftInTX Oct 1 #52

From a cursory reading, not as far as I know. Read the rest of the link and see if you see something I missed... ancianita Oct 1 #55

Experts say Michigan law 'has the back' of election workers and voters FelineOverlord Oct 1 #13

WOW!!! Sogo Oct 1 #15

a third world country we are becoming..... bahboo Oct 1 #16

Banana Republicans. peppertree Oct 1 #18

Come ON. Not as long as we investigate and enforce Rule of Law, we'll never be that. ancianita Oct 1 #51

Almost like it was in Arkansas when Win Rockefeller ran for governor against Orval Faubus. LiberalArkie Oct 1 #17

That was before my moving here ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #20

Yea, both brought Liberal thought to Arkansas. And for a while the state wasn't under the LiberalArkie Oct 1 #30

For a while ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #35

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Beware of rando disinformation campaigns on social media BumRushDaShow Oct 1 #23

EXACTLY. ancianita Oct 1 #44

The whole thing sounds unreal... LeftInTX Oct 1 #49

I live in Michigan DownriverDem Oct 1 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 1 #37

They leave that very important piece of info out Kaleva Oct 1 #70

What's really disturbing.... Biglinda 52 Oct 1 #25

Great sad but OP malaise Oct 1 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author mysteryowl Oct 1 #33

Please note that this is not the OP's daughter. niyad Oct 1 #41

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Glad they are warning people to BlueKota Oct 1 #36

Woe! Thanks for sharing. Martin68 Oct 1 #38

Heartsick and enraged KNR. I am so goddamned sick and tired of these niyad Oct 1 #39

Yeah, if you all watched Rachel last night, you will know all about PatrickforB Oct 1 #43

And Thiel's buddy, Elon, on whose platform all manner of fearmongering bullshit will be planted just ancianita Oct 1 #45

May JD Vance's ignominious political career be over quickly FakeNoose Oct 1 #72

And they're just getting started. The unhinged are finding their purpose: disrupt and undermine elections lindysalsagal Oct 1 #46

;-( elleng Oct 1 #48

There seems to be no way forward without massive violence IMO. NoMoreRepugs Oct 1 #53

And the people who vote Figarosmom Oct 1 #56

https://tips.fbi.gov/ or ICC tips. I gotta work.... Festivito Oct 1 #57

This is horrible bdamomma Oct 1 #58

We don't know if this is true Kaleva Oct 2 #79

If true, this would have made the news Kaleva Oct 1 #71

Rec'd for visibility! Mme. Defarge Oct 1 #74

I would very much be in favor of moniss Oct 2 #77

Mainstream report of this? Betty Boom Oct 2 #81

The Electoral College is so fucked up. 7 states should not decide an election, but basically they do. OverBurn Oct 2 #82

Well Doc "$8 blue check to feel validated by Elon Musk" is surely enjoying all the traffic to his feed of bad jokes AZSkiffyGeek Oct 3 #84

Liberal orgs/main party need to let us know where to donate to increase security Nimble_Idea Oct 3 #85

There will be violence when trump loses uponit7771 Oct 4 #86

MAGA craziness is dangerous Heftylefty Oct 8 #87