General Discussion

when I talk to the conservative forest I live in from old Log Cabin to Reagan Neo-Cons to crazy MAGAts, I'll gladly throw Liz, Dick, whoever has flipped on TSF I can that they would normally identify as "anti-liberal", conservative or Republicon in their face and say look, we gotta stop this asshole and his ilk or we will never have the chance to do anything politically again, any of us.

My biggest concern is that we liberals tend to be kind and inviting as a group which is great but it leads to us thinking when we've won and are changing things, lets celebrate. Meanwhile the wolfs licking its chops at the drunken naïve liberals and is setting them up, continually, non-stop. The other side doesn't sleep, not even a nap, and it gradually shifts what would be considered centrist thinking to the right. This is how and why fascism, always waiting and lurking in those far right shadows, can suddenly envelop and destroy a liberal democracy and everyone's going "how did that happen?" .

I get what your saying and have no problem inviting new groups into our tent. And publicly putting down anybody that supports Kamala in defeating TSF and fascism should definitely be frowned upon as being unpatriotic and a refusal to defend our democracy. But there are rules in this tent if you want to stay the most important of which is we aren't going back to any of the old rules period.