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JohnSJ

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43. I don't know, but Sen. Sanders did endorse Hillary in 2016, and the Democratic nominees henceforth, but some of his
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 04:00 AM
Oct 6

supporters unfortunately didn't. It was a minority, 10%, but it contributed to what happened in 2016, and in 2020 most came home.

My point being simply that in an election supposedly this close according to polls, and with perhaps as much as 10-20% of republicans and Haley supporters, who are either republicans or "undecided", to utilize whatever it takes to try and convince them to not only NOT vote for trump, but vote for Harris/Walz, and in fact the Harris campaign is airing campaign ads on various programs USING republicans in those ads to do just that, where these republicans are saying they will vote for Harris this time because trump is too dangerous and cannot be trusted.

Will it help? I don't think it will hurt, and I cannot remember anytime that so many prominent republicans publicly came out to endorse a Democratic candidate.

What I see is the Harris-Walz campaign reaching out to ALL groups trying to utilize the. Howard Dean 50-state strategy.

Governor Walz is actually going on fox to do a solo interview on October 6. Of course you have such jackassed reports criticizing Harris-Walz for not doing more interviews, because "people don't really know them", which is bullshit in my book. On the issues people absolutely do know where the candidates are on the issues, and that the illustrious press try to push a false narrative that they don't know where Harris-Walz are on the issues, highlights just how inane the MSM is. They have been for sometime, and their lazy and inept coverage has demonstrated that.

For some reason they also seem to hold Democrats to a much higher standard than republicans.

The most recent example was the Jack Smith preliminary evidentiary report. Within 24 to 48 hours it was no longer a news event, unlike the overblown "Hillary email scandal", which went on for months, and after Comey released a letter to the republicans in congress 11 days before the general election saying they were investigating another laptop for additional information, the media almost universally reported that "the email investigation had been reopened", WHICH WAS A LIE, and the news outlets paraded every right wing pundit across their outlets perpetuating that lie for the next week 24/7.

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Phrases come to mind: "Cut off nose to spite your face", "Perfect is enemy of the good", . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 5 #1
Yeah, a lot of us aren't as smart as others displacedvermoter Oct 5 #2
I would argue it is even worse, those that feel the need to do that are actually working against the Democrats. JohnSJ Oct 5 #3
I would have to say that is pretty silly as displacedvermoter Oct 5 #8
people are so easily fooled Skittles Oct 5 #15
Like we were in 2016 by Cornell West, David Sirota, Brian Joy Gray, Nina Turner, etc. etc. etc. JohnSJ Oct 5 #22
WHATEVER Skittles Oct 5 #36
Yes, but H2O Man Oct 6 #51
and you don't know how many will vote for Harris/Walz because of those endorsements. It is called the Howard Dean JohnSJ Oct 5 #21
So why is a contingent here always so happy displacedvermoter Oct 5 #26
I don't know, but Sen. Sanders did endorse Hillary in 2016, and the Democratic nominees henceforth, but some of his JohnSJ Oct 6 #43
Those people named did support Sanders and they did not support Democrats JI7 Oct 6 #44
+1 betsuni Oct 6 #45
In any primary, some of the losers voters ultimately go for the other party karynnj Oct 6 #50
Personally ANYONE who said anything REMOTELY like "I will have to hold my nose to vote for Hillary" Eliot Rosewater Oct 6 #52
Pretty strident displacedvermoter Oct 6 #57
BULLSHIT Eliot Rosewater Oct 6 #58
Yes displacedvermoter Oct 6 #60
Amazing, isn't it? smh Hekate Oct 5 #4
Haters gonna hate. nt LexVegas Oct 5 #5
With that logic I should be rallying against those who voted for Jill Stein in 2016 also, instead of following the JohnSJ Oct 5 #23
Not railing against them at all. I don't talk about the Cheneys until a Cheney love fest gets started. Iggo Oct 5 #6
I saw a 'face-eating leopard' defending the face of our party yesterday. bigtree Oct 5 #12
"The enemy of my enemy is my.... electoral ally, for the moment" Jack Valentino Oct 5 #7
With you 100%, well said KS Toronado Oct 5 #30
YES we FIRST put the MASSIVE FIRE OUT then worry about the attitudes of some of the firefighters Eliot Rosewater Oct 6 #54
not railing AGAINST them Skittles Oct 5 #9
They're just hedging their bets if he loses, orthoclad Oct 5 #20
yup Skittles Oct 5 #34
and I could argue that Cornell West, David Sirota, Nina Turner, Brianna Joy Gray, etc. who actively campaigned against JohnSJ Oct 5 #24
not sure what that has to do with this but Skittles Oct 5 #35
Some of us can walk and chew gum and the same time Fiendish Thingy Oct 5 #10
THANK YOU Skittles Oct 5 #14
And see, you and me agreeing that pissing on displacedvermoter Oct 5 #18
I don't have to like them or ever vote for BlueKota Oct 5 #11
Agree 1000 percent LearnedHand Oct 5 #13
lol Hey.. I wanted to get on that thread and say.. Cha Oct 5 #16
Exactly Cha. With that logic, should I start condemning those who voted for Jill Stein in 2016, and helped give us the JohnSJ Oct 5 #25
DUH DUH DUH ...no, I know, lets require PERFECTION now NOT JUST FROM OUR CANDIDATES but ALSO from our VOTERS Eliot Rosewater Oct 6 #55
Agree. betsuni Oct 5 #17
This is not "politics". This is survival. orthoclad Oct 5 #19
Since 2016 my policy is simple: if you just support democracy, I don't need to quarrel with you. paulkienitz Oct 5 #27
I will debate reasons we need to be careful on this board and with hardcore liberal friends, BUT Cheezoholic Oct 5 #28
I don't see anyone here as naive like that bigtree Oct 5 #31
Like I said I agree with the premis that publically attacking the Cheney's support is a really bad idea Cheezoholic Oct 5 #37
sure, attack them viciously... AFTER THE THREAT IS OVER. paulkienitz Oct 11 #61
+1 betsuni Oct 6 #40
Thank you, our new coalition concerns me on another level displacedvermoter Oct 6 #38
Yep, I actually dont think we need the Cheney's endorsement to win but there is too much to lose Cheezoholic Oct 6 #39
Yup. Let's remember who the foe is, folks. Joinfortmill Oct 5 #29
Totally agree. Didn't Biden try to work with the other side? LiberalFighter Oct 5 #32
I welcome ammunition from all quarters. dalton99a Oct 5 #33
Right, just look at how close many of our elections have been JI7 Oct 6 #41
Some are STILL convinced the majority of Americans are secretly socialists or Leftist populists or whatever and betsuni Oct 6 #42
It's an article of faith around here that a Republican can never be right about anything Shrek Oct 6 #46
For my part DemonGoddess Oct 6 #47
Damn , this whole thread and NOT ONCE dweller Oct 6 #48
We're looking to save the country from utter madness peggysue2 Oct 6 #49
No SHIT...if trmp takes over there IS NO UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or Democratic Party or Eliot Rosewater Oct 6 #56
What you wrote should be obvious, Eliot peggysue2 Oct 6 #59
Well, whatever. mucholderthandirt Oct 6 #53
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