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Metaphorical

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12. Of course, the problem with building cities
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 01:20 PM
Oct 2024

Cities almost always emerge due to the convergence of railways, highways, ports (river, sea, air or space) or forts. There are a few exceptions - arguably Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, and Scotsdale, AZ all come to mind - but I anticipate that 75 years from now neither of those cities will exist. (very high water requirements in the middle of deserts, aging populations, technological obsolescence). Most of the prime spots for building cities in the US are already occupied, and as population peaks (by 2050) and starts to decline, you're going to see cities shrinking instead of significant new city growth.

What's more, cities go through a libertarian phase, but typically grow out of it as the need for order asserts itself with higher population density. This is why you see very few modern truly libertarian cities. They become liberal.

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Cloister them in their own living hell cilla4progress Oct 2024 #1
This is just Herman Cain's Sim City plan but a better conceptualized. nt Gore1FL Oct 2024 #2
Ayn Rand's dream. No one has to pickup garbage or fix the roads unless they want to. underpants Oct 2024 #55
I know a good spot. The Madcap Oct 2024 #3
So Las Vegas then? Nt Jk23 Oct 2024 #4
beat me to it prodigitalson Oct 2024 #9
Not Vegas. The Madcap Oct 2024 #11
How about a current nuclear waste site. ToxMarz Oct 2024 #16
How about subterranean? Don't we have a few caves full of drums of toxic waste? littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #23
Chernobyl? Katcat Oct 2024 #34
You know the current Vegas Strip is located in the town of Paradise? NT Jk23 Oct 2024 #61
That's a twist... The Madcap Oct 2024 #62
White Sands. Probably still glows in the dark. Hekate Oct 2024 #59
There was an early short story by Heinlein called Coventry... haele Oct 2024 #8
The entire country of Australia is basically based on that Jk23 Oct 2024 #10
Or John Carpenter's Escape from New York jmowreader Oct 2024 #13
Loved that movie The Madcap Oct 2024 #64
And this would enable Trump's Forever Purge Attilatheblond Oct 2024 #32
Or how about in one of our oceans. Or in one of our Great Lakes. Seinan Sensei Oct 2024 #26
There's lots of land susanr516 Oct 2024 #63
i don't think most...even here...realize how much ret5hd Oct 2024 #5
That's it. They'll take the land and never build anything. yardwork Oct 2024 #35
Read "The Open Veins of Latin America". The bible for raping and pillaging and leaving nothing for the population. SharonAnn Oct 2024 #47
Also, markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #49
It is exactly what happened after the markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #54
They want the Native American Land big time! ALBliberal Oct 2024 #42
TSF always wants what isn't his..these public lands are OUR property. Deuxcents Oct 2024 #6
All developers want free land, public land, other people's land. And Tax free arrangements and government subsidies. SharonAnn Oct 2024 #48
Atlas Shrugged BS. Silent Type Oct 2024 #7
Of course, the problem with building cities Metaphorical Oct 2024 #12
With the way maga wants it. duncang Oct 2024 #14
The biggest issue in all this... jmowreader Oct 2024 #15
Correction: They want to live out in the middle of fucking nowhere on five to ten acres of forested land CrispyQ Oct 2024 #20
and lest we forget MizLibby Oct 2024 #33
Oh, you'd be surprised jmowreader Oct 2024 #38
It's not... 2naSalit Oct 2024 #22
He's been huffing glue with eloon again. Have you seen the new dark maga trend? littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #17
What's Dark MAGA? keep_left Oct 2024 #36
DeSantis tried to do it in Florida and people got so pissed he backed out. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2024 #18
He's half right. WarGamer Oct 2024 #19
Absolutely. underpants Oct 2024 #57
He likes chiiina so much, maybe he should look into how maga building worked out for them. PortTack Oct 2024 #21
I think rich guys know this economic cycle is about at its end Warpy Oct 2024 #24
There was a recent DU post about it (originally a George Conway tweet). keep_left Oct 2024 #25
Right. H2O Man Oct 2024 #28
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2024 #27
He's probably whining in part, because the market for hi-rises (like his properties) are dead in the water. SWBTATTReg Oct 2024 #29
Yes, one big city in the middle of the desert. Magoo48 Oct 2024 #30
Tech CEO scumbags like Peter Thiel are already trying this near Sacramento and other spots kysrsoze Oct 2024 #31
Musk is doing this in Texas also. Klarkashton Oct 2024 #40
St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go William Seger Oct 2024 #50
The usual Trumpshit. twodogsbarking Oct 2024 #37
Just build them underground near any of our three super volcanoes. GreenWave Oct 2024 #39
This shows what a hard time people have figuring out... ananda Oct 2024 #41
One of the tech Linda ladeewolf Oct 2024 #43
It has been a part of the Repugs platform for years to privatize public land. spike jones Oct 2024 #44
It was always a land grab for Republican real estate developers and oil companies bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #45
Yeah, gee wonder who gets the contracts and subcontracts on this. underpants Oct 2024 #53
CEMENT!!! Just like NYC. /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #58
👍 And cleanup. underpants Oct 2024 #60
OK, FINALLY, he has a program to offer! Montauk6 Oct 2024 #46
This is why MAGA will never escape that "weird" label. Initech Oct 2024 #51
Atlas Shrugged, Part 2: one hour later orthoclad Oct 2024 #52
And how long would it be before these like-minded Magat's got sick of one or more aspects of their "perfect cities"? patphil Oct 2024 #56
He can get the leftover plans Albert Speer left when the Nazis were stopped. Liberal In Texas Oct 2024 #65
They think it will be "Galt's Gulch" ThoughtCriminal Oct 2024 #66
Let's just give them Texas. It's a pretty big state, still got lots of resources. mucholderthandirt Oct 2024 #67
It's been tried. Hint: did not end well. not fooled Oct 8 #68
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