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36. So many adages could apply: "Some things NEVER change." , "What was old, is new again." , "Old habits die hard."

Mon Oct 7, 2024, 11:40 AM

Oct 7

In 1939, there were some 140,000 Jews living in the Netherlands, among them tens of thousands of refugees: some sources state 24,000–25,000 Jews had fled Germany in the 1930s, while others state that about 34,000 Jews entered The Netherlands from Germany and Austria between 1933 and 1940.[23][8]: 69

In 1945, only about 35,000 Dutch Jews were alive, many of whom emigrated to British Mandate of Palestine (present-day Israel) and other countries; the 1947 census reported only 14,346 Jews, or 10% of the pre-war population. 34,379 "full Jews" are estimated to have survived the Holocaust, of whom 8,500 were part of mixed marriages, and thus spared deportation. Another 14,545 "half Jews" and 5,990 "quarter Jews" are estimated to have survived.[24]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_the_Netherlands

Nearly a quarter of young adults in Netherlands think Holocaust a myth, survey finds

A Jewish group that commissioned a survey on Holocaust awareness in the Netherlands said Wednesday that the results showed “a disturbing lack of awareness of key historical facts about the Holocaust,” prompting calls for better education in the nation that was home to diarist Anne Frank and her family.

The survey commissioned by the New York-based Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany found that the number of respondents who believe the Holocaust is a myth was higher than in any of the other five nations previously surveyed.

In the survey, 23% of adults under age 40 and 12% of all respondents indicated they believed the Holocaust was a myth or that the number of Jews killed had been greatly exaggerated.

“Not only is this downright shocking, it’s very serious,” Dutch Justice Minister Dilan Yesilgöz-Zegerius said on Twitter. “Almost a quarter of the Dutch people born after 1980 think that the Holocaust is a ‘myth’ or that it is heavily ‘exaggerated.’ As a society, we have a lot of work to do. And fast, too.”
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A new Holocaust Museum shows how three-quarters of Dutch Jews were deported and killed

The Dutch resistance spirited newborn Flip Delmonte away after his parents were detained by Nazi occupiers of the Netherlands in World War II.

They were among 102,000 Jews deported from the Netherlands and murdered in Nazi death camps. Delmonte’s mother was killed as soon as she arrived at Auschwitz while his father, “a strong man,” was worked to death.

On Tuesday, the 80-year-old Delmonte attended the official preview of the Netherlands’ National Holocaust Museum, pointing proudly at a picture he donated of himself after the war.

“The Jewish people were murdered. There are people, children who survived and we cannot forget them. They must be remembered also in the future,” Delmonte said.

The museum will be officially opened Sunday by Dutch King Willem-Alexander. It tells the story, in video footage, photos, scale models and mementos, of Dutch victims of the Holocaust.
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The Netherlands: the highest number of Jewish victims in Western Europe

Also, something which has apparently never gone out of style, is blaming JEWS for anti-Semitism, including anti-Semitism directed against them. It is just another form of anti-Semitism that goes underrecognized and overused. The police's refusal is just another example of those who think "Jews are NOT real citizens of....The Netherlands, Sweden, the UK, Ireland, Spain, Russia, Argentina, Brazil, Australia, China, Japan, Canada, the United States...they are just Jews."

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Dutch police refuse to guard Jewish sites over 'moral dilemmas,' officers say [View all] Mosby Oct 5 OP

Netanyahu's been doing 'their' work for them. elleng Oct 5 #1

What's that suppose to mean? These Cha Oct 5 #9

What does Netanyahu have to do with the police in Netherlands JI7 Oct 5 #21

I hate netanyahu but this is bullshit wolfie001 Oct 5 #2

If you can't perform the duties you signed up for, please put in your resignation letters. jimfields33 Oct 5 #3

There is no "moral dilemma." madaboutharry Oct 5 #4

Me too! JustAnotherGen Oct 6 #31

Maybe just maybe people whose parents fought against fascism in defense malaise Oct 5 #5

As do Jews in the Netherlands have rights elias7 Oct 5 #6

Good post, Rec & TY Cha Oct 5 #11

I though it was about Israel, not the Jews sarisataka Oct 5 #7

No Doubt These Anti-Semitic Assholes Cha Oct 5 #10

And what do Dutch Jews have to do with the Middle East? EX500rider Oct 5 #12

Is it about Israel or Jews? EllieBC Oct 5 #14

That would be prejudging all jews as if they are all supporters. They are not Bernardo de La Paz Oct 5 #22

So, to be pellucidly clear, you support the targeting of random Dutch Jews....because Israel? tritsofme Oct 5 #24

This is naked racism in its rawest form Sympthsical Oct 5 #25

Thank-you for this and exposing the not so subtle antisemitism that is on display. JohnSJ Oct 10 #40

+1 betsuni Oct 10 #41

Post removed Post removed Oct 10 #43

Breaking a 20 year lurking streak to say ZRB Oct 10 #45

I'm not Jewish either Sympthsical Oct 10 #49

Spot on Zeitghost Oct 10 #57

Completely unsurprised that the post has stood. nt LexVegas Oct 10 #56

Very much so. Behind the Aegis Oct 10 #58

So you are accusing Jews around the world madaboutharry Oct 5 #26

... betsuni Oct 6 #29

Disgusting comments. Self Esteem Oct 6 #32

Still sickened that this naked display of anti-Semitism is permitted. For shame. tritsofme Oct 7 #35

Anti-Zionism is not malaise Oct 10 #44

Joe Biden has described himself as "Zionist" sarisataka Oct 10 #46

Your previous comments go far, far beyond anti-Zionism Sympthsical Oct 10 #47

Put whatever label you like, but we know this is pure unadulterated Jew hatred. tritsofme Oct 10 #50

This post JustAnotherGen Oct 7 #34

lol...so on brand... Fix The Stupid Oct 10 #42

Eleven recommendations? Cirsium Oct 10 #55

To be pellucidly clear . . . Richard D Nov 8 #60

What is happening to this world? usedtobedemgurl Oct 5 #8

The 1930s are back DavidDvorkin Oct 5 #13

Unfortunately, you are correct canetoad Oct 5 #15

Like other forms of hate B.See Oct 5 #16

No! Not in the Netherlands. It used to a reliably liberal country. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 5 #17

Antisemitism in Europe? No way. nt LexVegas Oct 5 #18

Right? Why anyone is surprised.... EllieBC Oct 5 #19

Exactly, its a 2000 year tradition. nt LexVegas Oct 5 #20

Some apparently need a history reminder, right? EX500rider Oct 5 #23

strange. since when do cops express desires not to guard sites? what's not being said in the article? BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 5 #27

That would be my guess. DFW Oct 6 #28

WTH. This is blatant antisemitism. JohnSJ Oct 6 #30

Wow. Just bc certain Israeli Jews, and some American Jews support Netanyahu's Excessive War... electric_blue68 Oct 6 #33

So many adages could apply: "Some things NEVER change." , "What was old, is new again." , "Old habits die hard." Behind the Aegis Oct 7 #36

First - Thank you for weighing in JustAnotherGen Oct 7 #37

Thanks friend. Behind the Aegis Oct 10 #39

"Never again" is now. lapucelle Oct 9 #38

Anne Frank n/t Lulu KC Oct 10 #48

The freaking Anne Frank house is in Amsterdam. Basso8vb Oct 10 #51

Quite the opposite, they are more than aware of the history. tritsofme Oct 10 #52

The police behavior does not comport with that assertion. Basso8vb Oct 10 #53

Consider your assumptions sarisataka Oct 10 #54

The only thing I can say to that (right now) is. . . Richard D Nov 8 #59