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not fooled

(6,108 posts)
68. It's been tried. Hint: did not end well.
Tue Oct 8, 2024, 10:26 PM
Oct 8

Don't forget this classic :

https://www.cracked.com/article_28784_new-hampshires-libertarian-utopia-got-overrun-by-bears.html

In the 1990s, groups of self-regulating, Ayn-Rand-quoting quixotic libertarians made their way up to Grafton, taking over community centers, residential neighborhoods, and even building a survival tent community in what they called the Free Town Project. And for a while, libertarian values reigned supreme. The new Graftonites even managed to subvert the town the libertarian way: by slashing its budget, crippling it with frivolous lawsuits, and overtaxing local law enforcement with their open carry bullshit.

But soon, the interlopers were interrupted by another faction eager to bite the hand that feeds them: black bears....Sadly, since you can't debate with a bear in the free marketplace of ideas, the Free Town Project was wholly unprepared to deal with this ursine uprising. Some wanted to hunt the bears down (which is illegal but, y' know, libertarians), others wanted to feed them donuts, and some hardcore libertarians debated whether they should infringe on the bears' God-given right to eat their faces at all. And while many had come to live out in the wilds as Ron Paul intended, they had all been too busy studying the blade to learn any actual survival or bear-repelling skills.

These mixed messages only further discombobulated the black bears, causing them to assert their dominance over these message board freedom fighters, even more, invading houses and even attacking several town members. But it wasn't bears who destroyed the dream of the Grafton libertarian utopia, but libertarians. Having an actual problem to deal with simply caused half of the libertarians to try and rebel against the other libertarians, each refusing to do what the other suggested out of principle. Like a Randian ouroboros, the Free Town Project soon devoured itself, scattering its remaining ideologues and leaving Grafton with nothing but empty buildings, broken dreams, and a bad economy. Oh, and a shit ton of bears.

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Cloister them in their own living hell cilla4progress Oct 6 #1
This is just Herman Cain's Sim City plan but a better conceptualized. nt Gore1FL Oct 6 #2
Ayn Rand's dream. No one has to pickup garbage or fix the roads unless they want to. underpants Oct 6 #55
I know a good spot. The Madcap Oct 6 #3
So Las Vegas then? Nt Jk23 Oct 6 #4
beat me to it prodigitalson Oct 6 #9
Not Vegas. The Madcap Oct 6 #11
How about a current nuclear waste site. ToxMarz Oct 6 #16
How about subterranean? Don't we have a few caves full of drums of toxic waste? littlemissmartypants Oct 6 #23
Chernobyl? Katcat Oct 6 #34
You know the current Vegas Strip is located in the town of Paradise? NT Jk23 Oct 6 #61
That's a twist... The Madcap Oct 6 #62
White Sands. Probably still glows in the dark. Hekate Oct 6 #59
There was an early short story by Heinlein called Coventry... haele Oct 6 #8
The entire country of Australia is basically based on that Jk23 Oct 6 #10
Or John Carpenter's Escape from New York jmowreader Oct 6 #13
Loved that movie The Madcap Oct 6 #64
And this would enable Trump's Forever Purge Attilatheblond Oct 6 #32
Or how about in one of our oceans. Or in one of our Great Lakes. Seinan Sensei Oct 6 #26
There's lots of land susanr516 Oct 6 #63
i don't think most...even here...realize how much ret5hd Oct 6 #5
That's it. They'll take the land and never build anything. yardwork Oct 6 #35
Read "The Open Veins of Latin America". The bible for raping and pillaging and leaving nothing for the population. SharonAnn Oct 6 #47
Also, markodochartaigh Oct 6 #49
It is exactly what happened after the markodochartaigh Oct 6 #54
They want the Native American Land big time! ALBliberal Oct 6 #42
TSF always wants what isn't his..these public lands are OUR property. Deuxcents Oct 6 #6
All developers want free land, public land, other people's land. And Tax free arrangements and government subsidies. SharonAnn Oct 6 #48
Atlas Shrugged BS. Silent Type Oct 6 #7
Of course, the problem with building cities Metaphorical Oct 6 #12
With the way maga wants it. duncang Oct 6 #14
The biggest issue in all this... jmowreader Oct 6 #15
Correction: They want to live out in the middle of fucking nowhere on five to ten acres of forested land CrispyQ Oct 6 #20
and lest we forget MizLibby Oct 6 #33
Oh, you'd be surprised jmowreader Oct 6 #38
It's not... 2naSalit Oct 6 #22
He's been huffing glue with eloon again. Have you seen the new dark maga trend? littlemissmartypants Oct 6 #17
What's Dark MAGA? keep_left Oct 6 #36
DeSantis tried to do it in Florida and people got so pissed he backed out. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 6 #18
He's half right. WarGamer Oct 6 #19
Absolutely. underpants Oct 6 #57
He likes chiiina so much, maybe he should look into how maga building worked out for them. PortTack Oct 6 #21
I think rich guys know this economic cycle is about at its end Warpy Oct 6 #24
There was a recent DU post about it (originally a George Conway tweet). keep_left Oct 6 #25
Right. H2O Man Oct 6 #28
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 6 #27
He's probably whining in part, because the market for hi-rises (like his properties) are dead in the water. SWBTATTReg Oct 6 #29
Yes, one big city in the middle of the desert. Magoo48 Oct 6 #30
Tech CEO scumbags like Peter Thiel are already trying this near Sacramento and other spots kysrsoze Oct 6 #31
Musk is doing this in Texas also. Klarkashton Oct 6 #40
St. Peter, don't you call me 'cause I can't go William Seger Oct 6 #50
The usual Trumpshit. twodogsbarking Oct 6 #37
Just build them underground near any of our three super volcanoes. GreenWave Oct 6 #39
This shows what a hard time people have figuring out... ananda Oct 6 #41
One of the tech Linda ladeewolf Oct 6 #43
It has been a part of the Repugs platform for years to privatize public land. spike jones Oct 6 #44
It was always a land grab for Republican real estate developers and oil companies bucolic_frolic Oct 6 #45
Yeah, gee wonder who gets the contracts and subcontracts on this. underpants Oct 6 #53
CEMENT!!! Just like NYC. /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 6 #58
👍 And cleanup. underpants Oct 6 #60
OK, FINALLY, he has a program to offer! Montauk6 Oct 6 #46
This is why MAGA will never escape that "weird" label. Initech Oct 6 #51
Atlas Shrugged, Part 2: one hour later orthoclad Oct 6 #52
And how long would it be before these like-minded Magat's got sick of one or more aspects of their "perfect cities"? patphil Oct 6 #56
He can get the leftover plans Albert Speer left when the Nazis were stopped. Liberal In Texas Oct 6 #65
They think it will be "Galt's Gulch" ThoughtCriminal Oct 6 #66
Let's just give them Texas. It's a pretty big state, still got lots of resources. mucholderthandirt Oct 7 #67
It's been tried. Hint: did not end well. not fooled Oct 8 #68
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