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TomCADem

(17,775 posts)
15. The Media? How Can This Be The Case Since Most Don't Rely on Media?
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:20 PM
Oct 15

Two common themes I see on DU are (1) people who are incredulous or in disbelief that the race is tied given how much Trump lies and (2) blame towards traditional media for failing to inform people of Trump's lies notwithstanding the fact that it easy to find stories on ABC, CNN, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, NY Times and the Washington Post identifying Trump's many lies.

This themes are misguided and are based on an outdated understanding of where people get their news and information, which is through social media where stories and videos are not recommended based on accuracy of reliability, but based on algorithms that value the propensity to click a story, which means that sensationalistic, emotional content is always likely to have an advantage.

This is not the first time this has happened. In the Philippines, the people elected the son of a brutal dictator, which was driven in part by a coordinated disinformation campaigns on social media platforms, especially through videos, that takes advantage of the fact that social media has no mechanism to vet for accuracy, so you can run campaigns based on misinformation and sensationalism.

This is why many health professionals, including the current Surgeon General, has recommended add warning labels to social media to advise users of the risks of disinformation and perhaps disclosure regarding how social media platforms recommend stories to users, particularly if the recommendations are not based on accuracy of reliability.

https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2024/06/12/how-americans-get-news-on-tiktok-x-facebook-and-instagram/#:~:text=A%202023%20Pew%20Research%20Center,%25)%20or%20X%20(12%25).

Social media platforms are an important part of the American news diet: Half of U.S. adults say they get news at least sometimes from social media in general. But specific platforms differ widely in structure, content and culture. A new Pew Research Center survey finds that the ways in which Americans encounter news on four major platforms – TikTok, X, Facebook and Instagram – vary widely.




https://time.com/6173757/bongbong-marcos-tiktok-philippines-election/

A Dictator’s Son Rewrites History on TikTok in His Bid to Become the Philippines’ Next President

One of the most popular posts on Joey Toledo’s TikTok account is a 13-second clip of Ferdinand “Bongbong” Marcos Jr.’s conversation with Juan Ponce Enrile. In the video, the 94-year-old Enrile—who served as justice secretary and defense minister under Marcos’ father, the Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos Sr.—claims that the Philippines was so safe under martial law imposed by the elder Marcos that a Filipino could leave his home unlocked, and “nobody would touch it.”

The video received 92,000 views, and while Toledo has some doubts about Enrile’s claims (“I’m not just sure if [Enrile’s] story is 100% percent accurate because he’s already old”), the 27-year-old says he believes Enrile “knows what happened during that time.”

The appeal of the video on TikTok, and many others like it, goes a long way to explaining why Bongbong Marcos looks likely to win the May 9 presidential election—potentially returning one of the Philippines’ most prominent dynasties to power more than 35 years after it was ousted following decades of dictatorship.

Almost all of the 32 pro-Marcos TikTok creators TIME contacted would not speak on the record. But one, Toledo from Nueva Ecija province, some 69 miles north of the capital Manila, agreed. Typical of many of his peers, he does not believe the well documented history of the Marcos family’s human rights abuses and corruption.

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If Kamala held a town hall and danced for 39 minutes without takeing a question doc03 Oct 15 #1
Because half of American voters are... 3catwoman3 Oct 15 #2
By idiot you mean - walkingman Oct 15 #4
Because they will never see it. We here do, but most folks are living lives and not doing media all day. Srkdqltr Oct 15 #5
That too. kacekwl Oct 15 #8
few get news from tv WarGamer Oct 15 #3
What they get from social media is basically just echoes TV and text coverage... RidinWithHarris Oct 15 #6
a lot of BS pulled out of nether regions lol... I agree WarGamer Oct 15 #7
...and that's what passes for doing one's own research. n/t Harker Oct 15 #10
Exactly! The next time I hear a QAnon/Trump Type Say "I Did The Research" TomCADem Oct 15 #21
+33. A world packed with smug, undisciplined "experts." n/t Harker Oct 15 #23
Maybe doctors should start their advice with, "Here's what the conspiracy theorists don't want you to know..." Beartracks Oct 16 #33
Andrew Tate Is On Major Media and News? TomCADem Oct 15 #17
This TomCADem Oct 15 #16
this. +1000 WarGamer Oct 15 #32
It's not really close. The polls are being heavily manipulated by the gqp right now PortTack Oct 15 #9
It's close, even reputable pollsters are showing it tight Amishman Oct 15 #12
Sorry to disagree birdographer Oct 15 #19
2 or 3 points is close Polybius Oct 15 #28
Uh huh. (nt) birdographer Oct 15 #29
Nice answer Polybius Oct 15 #30
Why link to any of the polls when even more reliable ones admit that polls are not as accurate as they once were PortTack Oct 18 #35
That's an answer that I can completely respect Polybius Oct 18 #39
Okay....things get heated sometimes, as you know. Always good to be respectful PortTack Oct 18 #43
Of 33 polls that were released the end of last week 26 are either rt leaning, or bought and paid for by donOLD PortTack Oct 18 #34
Well, we don't know that yet Polybius Oct 15 #27
The media just can't quit him... dchill Oct 15 #11
Yes they will. maxsolomon Oct 18 #36
That'd be nice. BIWISI. dchill Oct 18 #42
I still get a local daily paper, now Gannett owned ramapo Oct 15 #13
Are you telling me that some other paper besides the NYT "normalizes" MFer? maxsolomon Oct 18 #37
On my phone... hay rick Oct 15 #14
The Media? How Can This Be The Case Since Most Don't Rely on Media? TomCADem Oct 15 #15
Apart from DU I get all my news from... LAS14 Oct 15 #18
It's close because Republican polls, poorly conducted and heavily weighted to favor MAGA, Warpy Oct 15 #20
Not all that have it close are Republican polls Polybius Oct 18 #40
While a lot of people get their "news" from markodochartaigh Oct 15 #22
How Marcos Jr weaponised social media to rewrite history and win power - A Preview for Trump Part 2? TomCADem Oct 15 #24
There's multiple reasons Polybius Oct 15 #25
The audience was trumpers. The interviewer was legitimate, but was gish galloped by trump and, who did is typical JohnSJ Oct 15 #26
Are Genx and younger getting news through regular stations are is that Baby Boomers? Thx in advance uponit7771 Oct 15 #31
Is it close? ( I think not) BUT bluestarone Oct 18 #38
Because Trump isn't on his death bed? LeftInTX Oct 18 #41
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