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hay rick

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175. Hate is corrosive.

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:26 AM

Nov 8

Of course I'm angry. I despise the people who brought us here, and equally or more, the inattentive and self-deluding people who just went along with Trump so they could avoid conflict with friends and family. I despise the people who did nothing because they didn't want to take sides- as if the choice of inaction would make them less culpable.

Anger is good because it is true. Anger is good when it moves you to action. Anger is bad when it raises your blood pressure. Anger is bad when it pushes you to petty reprisals. One more category that is important to me- anger is appropriate when it drives a wedge between you and your family and former friends. I am used to living with anger. The election in 2000 changed my relationship with my family. 2016 changed my relationships with friends and strangers. 2024 is just more of the same.

I want to accomplish two things while living in a society that makes me angry. First, as much as possible, I want to transform as much of that anger as possible into constructive action. Secondly, I do not want to let the anger that visits me impair my health or happiness.

There are many choices to be made.

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How is everyone handling the hate they feel right now? [View all] hamsterjill Nov 7 OP

Not well XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #1

I hope she does, too! hamsterjill Nov 7 #9

I gave that bitch over 400 XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #25

I am not handling my HATE well at all ...... I wish i could shoot Them all. Im not violent either. Trueblue1968 Nov 7 #158

They just punched every woman in the face. That's what happened. Walleye Nov 7 #2

Yes--they punched us in the face, pushed us to the ground, and then, boot on our necks, snarled, "now, stay down!" Timeflyer Nov 8 #166

There isn't enough sugar in the world orangecrush Nov 7 #3

No hate, just sorrow and fear Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #4

Hate may be a waste of time, but it's real and I feel it for every trumper right now. lark Nov 7 #110

I don't hate them, I just hope they suffer. Polly Hennessey Nov 7 #5

I feel the same way. hamsterjill Nov 7 #12

I am livid. I don't see getting over it ever. onecaliberal Nov 7 #111

Do What Gov. Walz Suggested and Multitask. The_Counsel Nov 7 #128

I feel like every time someone complains relayerbob Nov 8 #171

I will not have anything to do with MAGA relatives, except for brief necessary exchanges. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #6

and that's even difficult for me...ugh La Coliniere Nov 7 #100

Glad I Don't Own A Gun SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #7

I am going to do the opposite gab13by13 Nov 7 #8

I've had a similar line of thinking. yardwork Nov 7 #40

You bet, I am going to seek them out and hound them. gab13by13 Nov 7 #51

I saw that video. hamsterjill Nov 7 #56

Bingo. yardwork Nov 7 #69

Some news show talked about that the other day... usedtobedemgurl Nov 7 #84

As I always say..it's better to be pissed off than pissed on. BattleRow Nov 7 #101

Harass them...when things go bad. Septua Nov 7 #125

Hate eats at you. I don't hate anyone. It isn't healthy for ourselves. Groundhawg Nov 7 #10

nope. suppressing the hate is the thing that's unhealthy NoRethugFriends Nov 7 #95

I'm un-friending anyone who posted they're happy TFG won Freddie Nov 7 #11

I never understood Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #49

Anti-vax, anti-science doctors and nurses... deurbano Nov 8 #173

TSF - The sick fuck. onecaliberal Nov 7 #113

I feel more sadness than hate. Ocelot II Nov 7 #13

Well said WestMichRad Nov 7 #97

I, too, am mostly sad, but still trying to process the meaning of this election result. Lonestarblue Nov 7 #116

I went to a Sabrina Carpenter concert last night. pfitz59 Nov 7 #14

Well women damn sure didn't do it this time! hamsterjill Nov 7 #19

Trump's strategy of using threats and intimidation worked gab13by13 Nov 7 #28

But her endorsement rendered 300,000 voter registrations in 24 hours hamsterjill Nov 7 #52

Or many, if not most of them, Mr.Bill Nov 7 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Different Drummer Nov 7 #94

Wtf.... She endorsed harris immediately after the debate questionseverything Nov 7 #149

She Put Out A Lovely Written Endorsement SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #152

On Election Day she put out a tic toc explaining why voting for harris was so important questionseverything Nov 7 #155

It Hardly Matters Now SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #157

Interesting. I had a similar feeling when I saw the movie Mama Mia 2. LisaM Nov 7 #98

Well, 70% of them likely didn't vote, or voted against Harris relayerbob Nov 8 #170

I'm kinda in denial still. But, not all the time. I wind in and out of it . mucifer Nov 7 #15

Yes, I am having SilverDawg Nov 7 #16

Mostly I hate the way I feel BeyondGeography Nov 7 #17

Yeah, it feels like 84 to me LeftInTX Nov 7 #54

Really good point Evolve Dammit Nov 7 #75

I'm oddly at peace with myself Mz Pip Nov 7 #18

This GenThePerservering Nov 7 #24

I largely agree with this. TwilightZone Nov 7 #31

As long as Medicare and Social Seecurity holds up, Mr.Bill Nov 7 #78

Don't forget the poorer of us who need/have Medicaid! electric_blue68 Nov 7 #156

No. They will just blame Democrats. travelingthrulife Nov 7 #123

I have never wished anyone ill Bettie Nov 7 #20

+1000 hamsterjill Nov 7 #41

You're not wishing them ill, you're wishing them reality. hatrack Nov 7 #145

Feel the same way. Want to enjoy schadenfreude when the Leopard eats their face. LiberalLoner Nov 7 #21

Badly I am afraid. MuseRider Nov 7 #22

It's hard. Quiet Em Nov 7 #23

Jump in, anyway. nt GenThePerservering Nov 7 #29

Yeah, I know Quiet Em Nov 7 #34

No, don't unless you know they aren't Trumpers hamsterjill Nov 7 #43

Political litmus test. roamer65 Nov 7 #32

Yeah, anyone with that sticker is getting avoided. Quiet Em Nov 7 #36

...and for safety sake too. roamer65 Nov 7 #37

Just slow down and tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps Ray Bruns Nov 7 #112

Badly MaryMagdaline Nov 7 #26

In a word, lousy. CanonRay Nov 7 #27

I'm channeling it into a severe austerity budget. roamer65 Nov 7 #30

I'm doing the same. A one-family attempt to collapse the Trump economy, lol. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #48

There is power in numbers. roamer65 Nov 7 #63

Yep. I'm the same way lately--hoard the money, move it around as you see fit, but don't buy shit you don't need. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #68

Collapsing the economy is part of their plan. Nt lostnfound Nov 9 #179

I'm felt the hate initially but now, it just is what it is. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #33

I will only engage with them only in the most minimum ways possible, and will absolutely refuse to discuss anything JohnSJ Nov 7 #35

You won't ever change their minds, anyway. They have their beliefs and grievances and Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #42

I hate them. StarryNite Nov 7 #38

I'm allowing myself all my feelings and allowing them to change. yardwork Nov 7 #39

Rec'd Kaleva Nov 7 #50

Thanks. yardwork Nov 7 #65

Not hate ... it's more a combo of frustration and disgust ... and dread for the future FakeNoose Nov 7 #44

And wait til the tariffs kick in Freddie Nov 8 #177

I don't feel hate Kaleva Nov 7 #45

I'm still recoverng from being on my feet for a month! LeftInTX Nov 7 #46

TY for all you did! moonscape Nov 7 #67

What hate? joshcryer Nov 7 #47

You're absolutely right ailsagirl Nov 8 #174

For my sanity I need to take a break Luck Counts Nov 7 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author Nanuke Nov 7 #109

I have been going through my social media feeds TBF Nov 7 #55

Were you not old enough to vote in 2016? hamsterjill Nov 7 #58

At that point I don't think I truly appreciated TBF Nov 7 #133

Thank you for your honesty. hamsterjill Nov 7 #137

Remove them from your personal intimate Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #57

No hate, but plenty of anger. Dulcinea Nov 7 #59

I hope you are right but I don't think you are. hamsterjill Nov 7 #61

I'm staying away from hate ... Jkanad Nov 7 #60

My sister in law who is married to a maga ( who's marriage I think is going to end soon) told her brother kimbutgar Nov 7 #62

It blows my mind how any liberal woman could stay married to a MAGA. hamsterjill Nov 7 #138

When the disasterous debate happened he was gloating kimbutgar Nov 7 #147

I am letting my hate flow freely through City Lights Nov 7 #64

Good beer & good music. CaptainTruth Nov 7 #66

Not well. Feel similarly. Total legal system collapse and Evolve Dammit Nov 7 #70

Hate kills the soul of the hater. Don't hate. Hesitate. Contemplate. Educate. Emulate. Communicate. Devastate. ancianita Nov 7 #71

I'm not handling it well at all. Somehow, I have to get my brain focused on something other than politics. Vinca Nov 7 #72

I don't really feel hate jfz9580m Nov 7 #73

I am right there with you FirstLight Nov 7 #76

I don't like to hate... 2naSalit Nov 7 #77

The horror at our national suicide is just sinking in. NNadir Nov 7 #79

Using it to simplify my life . . . hatrack Nov 7 #80

I have given up on them. usedtobedemgurl Nov 7 #81

Turned on a local sports radio channel nitpicked Nov 7 #82

Music Figarosmom Nov 7 #83

Hear, hear! BigmanPigman Nov 7 #85

I realized a long time ago that the consequences of hate are essentially self-destructive. patphil Nov 7 #86

I prefer to learn to be indifferent to their fate. Hate requires the expenditure of dobleremolque Nov 7 #87

Shock, then sadness, disappointment... and now... Trust_Reality Nov 7 #88

PS Trust_Reality Nov 7 #92

Better now. duncang Nov 7 #89

Like this. It goes through my fingers. lees1975 Nov 7 #90

not well... da svenster Nov 7 #91

When trumpers DownriverDem Nov 7 #93

I think about the leopard chewing off their faces. GoCubsGo Nov 7 #96

I'm cutting all Republicans out of my life. Rizen Nov 7 #99

I did that in 2016. hamsterjill Nov 7 #103

For me, Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #153

My MAGA neighbor blueknight73 Nov 7 #102

That was a dumb thing to tell anyone XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #104

Please don't Vogon_Glory Nov 7 #130

I think you should. hamsterjill Nov 7 #139

I have the wheels blueknight73 Nov 7 #146

Good for you. hamsterjill Nov 7 #164

Good for you. hamsterjill Nov 7 #165

I refuse to acknowledge the results of this election. Not today, not ever. Initech Nov 7 #105

Not julmur Nov 7 #106

I have lunch every Friday with my repug former bff as of Tues. lark Nov 7 #107

I haven't picked any fights yet, but I've been in a simmering rage since 1994 because of Newt Gingrich LT Barclay Nov 7 #108

I feel it in my body adam_vermont Nov 7 #114

They despise us to the core sky_masterson Nov 7 #115

Saddened but, no hate in my heart Darnell1972 Nov 7 #117

This country is dead to me. VanceFan Nov 7 #118

i've swapped the hate for complete contempt and disgust for Don and those who voted for him. Ping Tung Nov 7 #119

I'm sitting with it for as long as I need to Coexist Nov 7 #120

My hate is all consuming... Moostache Nov 7 #121

Half of Americans rejected this IronLionZion Nov 7 #122

There are three MAGATs I can't cut off Bayard Nov 7 #124

I can certainly respect your right to do that (i.e., keep them in your life). hamsterjill Nov 7 #140

Hate and resentment are dangerous emotions for me Vogon_Glory Nov 7 #126

Agreed osaMABUSh Nov 7 #127

Terrified but turning it into action on this end gay texan Nov 7 #129

Hate is unproductive. It's draining. I'm too old to hate. I no longer go there. Doodley Nov 7 #131

I am done with religion. Dawson Leery Nov 7 #132

The opposite of love is indifference. morillon Nov 7 #134

I don't feel hate. It's more like resigned disgust. haele Nov 7 #135

I do not hate. H2O Man Nov 7 #136

You are to be commended. hamsterjill Nov 7 #141

Yes H2O Man Nov 7 #142

Not really hatred. Different Drummer Nov 7 #143

I'm beyond hate with these Jspur Nov 7 #144

Trying my best to ignore anything maga SunImp Nov 7 #148

Amen. Duppers Nov 7 #150

deleted snpsmom Nov 7 #151

Video games and reading fantasy/scifi novels LoveSucky Nov 7 #154

I feel a lot like you. lobointexas Nov 7 #159

We as liberals and progressives B.See Nov 7 #160

I hate them more! LiberalFighter Nov 7 #161

It's what keeps me going Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 7 #162

Hate was in me at first.... Mystery sage Nov 7 #163

More or less okay DemonGoddess Nov 8 #167

Not well! BlueMTexpat Nov 8 #168

Like any other grief GreatGazoo Nov 8 #169

I'm awful samplegirl Nov 8 #172

Almost called you yesterday! hamsterjill Nov 8 #176

Hate is corrosive. hay rick Nov 8 #175

My family Linda ladeewolf Nov 8 #178

Fortunately, we have been able to have a few days off Meowmee Nov 9 #180

Just angry Old_kid Nov 9 #181

No problem with the hate PhilosopherKing Nov 9 #182

Not good 😞 so worried about everything going to 💩. Can't sleep good. Don't want to talk to anyone. TommieMommy Nov 9 #183

I was thinking of performatively wailing Sympthsical Nov 9 #184