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TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
15. Victim? LOL, no.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 04:42 PM
Nov 2024

What exactly are we a victim of?

What we did clearly didn't work. We can blame everyone and everything but ourselves, but we'd just be lying to ourselves.

There are myriad reasons why we lost this election. Some of them are likely to be mistakes or miscalculations we made. No campaign is perfect and it'll take a while to deconstruct this result.

Until we can acknowledge some responsibility and stop blaming the election exclusively on others, we'll just keep losing. We're clearly still in denial.

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I know...... Lovie777 Nov 2024 #1
Seconded! BOSSHOG Nov 2024 #2
You may feel like a victim, but Democrats as a whole are not victims iemanja Nov 2024 #3
This EdmondDantes_ Nov 2024 #9
+1 Kaleva Nov 2024 #12
democracy is dead but our party may survive in one form or another. The blame is awarded to a weak yaesu Nov 2024 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #20
Zen Master says....we'll see. paleotn Nov 2024 #35
Democracy is not dead, it just smells funny JoseBalow Nov 2024 #48
Not the victims Cirsium Nov 2024 #5
They didn't count on the blatant misogyny and racism of many voters mdbl Nov 2024 #28
That is a handy excuse Cirsium Nov 2024 #34
They were aware, they just didn't think it would carry more weight mdbl Nov 2024 #36
They don't care because sexism and racism are WHY they voted for him in the first place. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #43
Of course Cirsium Nov 2024 #54
This is a copout. If they had kept Biden, they would have lost even worse. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #51
Your assumption is noted. mdbl Nov 2024 #58
Biden's own assumptions should be noted. He dropped out because he knew he couldn't win. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #59
I am not going to argue something we'll never know mdbl Nov 2024 #60
I see no chance Biden wins this race. Self Esteem Nov 2024 #61
Exit polls Cirsium Nov 2024 #78
Prevent the outcome we are facing... Felicita Nov 2024 #37
Not sure what you are saying Cirsium Nov 2024 #40
They "lose." Where are the facts that back your theory up? There aren't any. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #44
Right Cirsium Nov 2024 #52
Voters are not customers and elections shouldn't be products carljacobhall Nov 2024 #57
OK Cirsium Nov 2024 #64
Blame the MSM and the idiots who voted for him mcar Nov 2024 #6
I'd recommend an Apple air tag to find it because there's going to be a lot more of those. BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #7
We're not victims. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #8
Hate to break it to you. It IS about racism and sexism entirely. It is staring at you right in the face. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #45
Precisely. bronxiteforever Nov 2024 #10
Do you prefer that we congratulate the winner? Kaleva Nov 2024 #11
Democracy isn't dead - but it is imperfect. J_William_Ryan Nov 2024 #13
Is it? Yavin4 Nov 2024 #14
Victim? LOL, no. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #24
IT'S ALL DEAD!!! GenThePerservering Nov 2024 #16
If it isn't the Dems fault... SnoopDog Nov 2024 #17
There is long term blame that can be placed on Dems. hadEnuf Nov 2024 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #31
No, your post is illegible. You must be a younger person. SnoopDog Nov 2024 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #62
Forgive me for being critical... SnoopDog Nov 2024 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #66
The voters. n/t valleyrogue Nov 2024 #42
Why did voters 'vote' for trump? SnoopDog Nov 2024 #46
Corporate owned media and the recent report that 54% of the population reads at a sixth grade level Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #47
Then why haven't the Dems fight for education? SnoopDog Nov 2024 #50
The battle for decent education has been raging since the early 70s. Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #63
Ok, so Dems are not to blame... SnoopDog Nov 2024 #67
WHAT, specifically would you have had them do differently? Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #69
Voters. Period. nt valleyrogue Nov 2024 #72
thank you DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #18
You know what? If there's any victims it's the voters. Autumn Nov 2024 #19
No Blame is Necassary beemerphill Nov 2024 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #25
Well DownriverDem Nov 2024 #26
I think it's was 80% or more of the issue. This misogynistic racist country said clearly they do not want a Fe prez PortTack Nov 2024 #27
If the Republicans weren't sexist, they'd have voted for Haley over the Combover Caligula. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #39
It's on the voters. Period. n/t valleyrogue Nov 2024 #41
Agree DownriverDem Nov 2024 #22
Kick and rec!! 58Sunliner Nov 2024 #23
I hear ya. Blame if any type is a waste of time and energy. Magoo48 Nov 2024 #29
Amen wryter2000 Nov 2024 #32
Thank you relayerbob Nov 2024 #33
It's really kinda dumb. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #38
Amen! LoisB Nov 2024 #53
Agreed oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #55
It's uncomfortable. MontanaFarmer Nov 2024 #56
We aren't "in the wilderness." valleyrogue Nov 2024 #73
You might want to put the quotation ark after "losing" instead of "thread." I had to read it a couple of times. nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #68
Ask the Mayor of Dearborn Michigan what went wrong with this election... AntiFascist Nov 2024 #70
Sorry Yavin4 that this whole thread has turned into blame the Democrats. SO DONE WITH IT!!! Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #71
K&R UTUSN Nov 2024 #74
K&R UTUSN Nov 2024 #74
I have become Macrophylla Nov 2024 #76
A good way to put it. kentuck Nov 2024 #77
I have Rebl2 Nov 2024 #79
K&R Montauk6 May 2025 #80
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