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azureblue

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5. Trump cheated again

Sun Nov 10, 2024, 05:48 PM

Nov 10

just like he cheated on his previous elections. The vote count is way off - down some 10 million from 2020, despite the long lines and huge rallies. One thing, besides lying that you can rely on Trump to do, is to project - if he accuses someone of something, you can bet he had already done it. And you notice as soon as the election was over, he dropped the "Cheating" meme and got really quiet. He had been hinting for months he had something secret in the works, and did - he, after 3 election's worth of attacking the process, figured out how to change the vote count.

Biden needs to hold off the transition until the vote count has been verified, and the machines examined for hacking - which what I think happened.

Some strange statements from Trump and Elon have fueled doubts about election integrity.
"You can just change one line", Elon stated about the code on electronic voting machines.
"I don't need more votes, I already have votes," Trump stated repeatedly.
So why not take a look?

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The Democratic Party Needs to Demand a Recount [View all] Galraedia Nov 10 OP

At least slow this steamroller down Easterncedar Nov 10 #1

Most states require that proof of fraud or a mistake large enough to swing the race be provided. TwilightZone Nov 10 #2

Well, they are cheaters, we are not. I want to see Meadowoak Nov 10 #33

So far Harris got more votes than Biden did in Wisconsin, Georgia, Virginia, and North Carolina Galraedia Nov 11 #130

Reports like this deserve a second look Blue Owl Nov 10 #3

Interim or preliminary reports are irrelevant. TwilightZone Nov 10 #4

This is after a recount though Babajida Nov 10 #6

No, it was not after a recount... reACTIONary Nov 10 #17

The word 'rescan' sounds like a recount Babajida Nov 10 #60

In this case, the rescan was not a recount... reACTIONary Nov 10 #89

A late swing of a few thousand votes in a single county Zeitghost Nov 10 #16

Trump cheated again azureblue Nov 10 #5

And he told his brains dead supporters they would never have to vote again. Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #8

One line of code to replace Harris with Trump and why so many down ballot split tickets? n/t MartyTheGreek Nov 10 #15

Strange comments from Elon and Trump? Wow! That never happened before! reACTIONary Nov 10 #20

Thank you Mr.Bee Nov 10 #27

I got an issue with Harris conceding so quickly. BattleRow Nov 10 #7

A concession by a losing candidate Mr.Bill Nov 10 #12

Veddy interesting! BattleRow Nov 10 #19

Harris, like most of us Dems... reACTIONary Nov 10 #22

Yup, as soon as she conceded Farmer-Rick Nov 10 #55

Just shaking my head... BattleRow Nov 10 #58

Wait. Isn't she a lawyer? intheflow Nov 11 #92

Yeah, she is Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #94

Al Gore rescinded his concession and went to court didn't he? Dem4life1970 Nov 11 #99

Yeah, you are right Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #100

Conceding does not remove any right to challenge later SCantiGOP Nov 11 #106

Yeah the poster above said that Farmer-Rick Nov 11 #113

To avert violence, while they resolve the count. Clouds Passing Nov 10 #82

tRump Cheated!! JoeBydun Nov 10 #9

It's not even close SCantiGOP Nov 11 #108

I agree 100%. This is no time to take the high road once again. KPN Nov 10 #10

+1000 whathehell Nov 10 #30

Exactly keepthemhonestO Nov 10 #68

The #s just don't add up. The election was dirty. Botany Nov 10 #11

Something is Fishy about the Split Ticket Votes! MartyTheGreek Nov 10 #13

The split ticket votes AND MontanaMama Nov 11 #102

What Is Actually Needed Is A hotellanai1986 Nov 10 #14

Yes, code leaves a forensic trail. What I find Quakerfriend Nov 10 #56

I hope you're right keepthemhonestO Nov 10 #72

It was dirty. Botany Nov 10 #18

Given Republican history and Putin's involvement dlk Nov 10 #21

Ain't gonna help. Silent Type Nov 10 #23

no but proud patriot Nov 10 #26

Heck, my state instituted a requirement to hand count ballots (pieces of paper, not tabulate vote) and Silent Type Nov 10 #28

We don't know that Meadowoak Nov 10 #35

How many recounts do you think are necessary? We aren't going to win. Silent Type Nov 10 #36

At. Least one. Just to compare Meadowoak Nov 10 #38

The thing I keep thinking of is how much Putin... BlueHurricane Nov 10 #24

They sure did. Most all red states enacted or doubled down on some form of voter suppression, purges, or... Karasu Nov 10 #32

We lost more ground in blue states than we did red. Zeitghost Nov 10 #61

This is puzzling. There wasnt any increase of his bade oldmanlynn Nov 10 #91

Recommended bagimin Nov 10 #25

Projection Cirsium Nov 10 #29

On what theory??? FBaggins Nov 10 #31

Here's the shifts dweller Nov 10 #57

Yes - which rules out any need for recounts FBaggins Nov 10 #69

Those #s and the arrow graphs just scream something was happening. Botany Nov 10 #88

Yes, they scream something was happening.... reACTIONary Nov 10 #90

I'll move on when I find out... Cetacea Nov 11 #115

Let me suggest... reACTIONary Nov 11 #117

I.T. folks, Mr.Bee Nov 11 #123

As an IT folk, I can tell you that you are wrong.... reACTIONary Nov 11 #129

Literally the first time Mr.Bee Nov 12 #133

You and me both.... reACTIONary Nov 12 #134

Been there, done that... Mr.Bee Nov 13 #135

Yep, and... reACTIONary Nov 13 #136

Yep DeepWinter Nov 11 #97

Exactly keepthemhonestO Nov 11 #105

Do you know how much Harris trails in these states? Self Esteem Nov 10 #34

+1. Thank gawd Harris isn't calling states asking to find 31,000 votes, etc. Silent Type Nov 10 #39

You won't know unless you look. n/t Liberal In Texas Nov 10 #43

Wasting resources on a recount is stupid at this point. Self Esteem Nov 10 #44

Your entitled to your blind acceptance. Liberal In Texas Nov 10 #48

Do you think Biden stole it in 2020? Self Esteem Nov 10 #49

The difference is that Trump's claims were investigated and presented to courts and spooky3 Nov 10 #83

No. And that has nothing to do with this election. Liberal In Texas Nov 10 #87

We keepthemhonestO Nov 11 #107

If indeed the software tabulation had been instructed to give every third D vote to R, then she would be down by many fierywoman Nov 10 #50

In Wisconsin it's about ten votes per precinct questionseverything Nov 11 #122

I hear Sidney Powell is available for hire, maybe she can spearhead the effort? tritsofme Nov 10 #37

It'll never happen DiverDave Nov 10 #40

Yes BoRaGard Nov 10 #41

Recounts/Audits on all the swing states. Then Liberal In Texas Nov 10 #42

Why are the Dems NOT asking for recounts? SnoopDog Nov 10 #45

Because there is no reason to stoke the fires of dumb Trump-style conspiracy theories? tritsofme Nov 10 #47

So, just roll over? Republicans never cheat? Never gerrymander? SnoopDog Nov 10 #52

Losing without acting like crybaby toddlers, as Trump and crowd perfected four years ago, is not "rolling over" tritsofme Nov 10 #53

Not even the same thing as Republicans claimed there was fraud despite multiple recounts proving their wasn't Galraedia Nov 10 #54

Would multiple recounts satisfy people who are determined to believe a conspiracy theory? My guess is probably not. tritsofme Nov 10 #70

Recounts aren't "free", they require the requester to pay for them MichMan Nov 10 #73

Yes we all know that... SnoopDog Nov 10 #74

So why do you think the Harris campaign or DNC isn't doing this? Because they are dumb? tritsofme Nov 10 #77

Yes you are right. We should all just give up... SnoopDog Nov 10 #84

I mean...the election is over. People can certainly choose to live in a fantasyland as Trump and his cult did tritsofme Nov 10 #85

Are you in Dem Leadership by chance? SnoopDog Nov 10 #86

Well, people here donated money to Jill Stein in 2016 to finance her recount, so maybe that is an avenue. MichMan Nov 10 #79

Maybe because of election laws? stillcool Nov 10 #75

Something to keep in mind Metaphorical Nov 10 #46

Please consider a separate OP on this ... this is the most glaring anomaly I have yet heard of. nt eppur_se_muova Nov 11 #125

Why did Texas, Florida and (I think) Missouri refuse to allow federal election observers oversee fierywoman Nov 10 #51

Qeustion: Did any states upload their vote data through Starlink? azureblue Nov 10 #59

Exactly keepthemhonestO Nov 11 #112

Looking into that Cetacea Nov 11 #114

I agree. Trump made too much noise about a "rigged" election to leave this alone. lees1975 Nov 10 #62

And then when he immediately shut his fat mouth once he was ahead Blue Owl Nov 11 #103

also this oldtime dfl_er Nov 10 #63

This to me is one reason why the physical ballots SHOULD be audited. Metaphorical Nov 10 #81

VP Harris needed... littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #64

This thread hurts the effort to rebuild trust in American elections that was so damaged by Trump, et. al. LAS14 Nov 10 #65

Malarky!!! bikes and bunnies Nov 10 #67

do election laws come into play at all? stillcool Nov 10 #76

I agree 1000% bikes and bunnies Nov 10 #66

Yes!!!!!!!! 58Sunliner Nov 10 #71

There are not sabbat hunter Nov 10 #78

If the DNC or Harris was convinced the election was rigged don't most people here think they would mention it? Fish700 Nov 11 #101

Bernie is right. sabbat hunter Nov 10 #80

I would be interested to see how House votes.... lastlib Nov 11 #93

Yes -and an investigation Six117 Nov 11 #95

Republicans would stop at nothing Mr.Bee Nov 11 #96

"image not found or was removed" -- what was the photo? nt orleans Nov 11 #98

Parties don't trigger recounts SCantiGOP Nov 11 #104

I've stayed away from the stolen election threads for the most part, because, CrispyQ Nov 11 #109

I'm not one for conspiracy theories epreic01 Nov 11 #110

And an audit nilram Nov 11 #111

I'm in red Florida and even here this doesn't add up. Ligyron Nov 11 #116

A recount is only held in close races or when there is clear evidence of fraud or irregularities. Martin68 Nov 11 #118

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil in the world is that good men do nothing" Mr.Bee Nov 11 #119

Recount where of which race? OPost meaningless: image NOT found. Clear your cache if you don't believe me. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 11 #120

They are too spineless Owens Nov 11 #121

Yeah, Tell Me My Vote Matters SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #126

All this 'just accept it and move on' Mr.Bee Nov 11 #124

I think bdamomma Nov 11 #127

The Democratic Party has nothing to do with asking for a recount stillcool Nov 11 #128

You think Information Technology can't be used to do this? Mr.Bee Nov 11 #131

Why the Democratic Party MUST Demand a Recount w/ Dean Obeidallah Mr.Bee Nov 12 #132