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In reply to the discussion: a woman whose anger needs to be paid attention to [View all]
JustAnotherGen
(34,356 posts)24. I'm not patronizing you
Or anyone else.
I put that patronizing squarely on the OP - who chose to focus on taking a pot shot at Liberal and Progressive Women.
But in all black spaces (Sunday dinner at my house yesterday) - the women - including myself -
Were vocal at our anger about ONE selfish self-serving community who thinks I'm going to come to their defense when Trump comes for them.
Black women are not here for that. Uh uh no way. Not gonna do it.
And I'd only support a woman's march if it is going to be as brutal and chaotic as January 6th.
ETA - Angela Davis wouldn't play nice if she was a young woman today. She simply wouldn't. And neither would Shirley Chisholm or Harriet.
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Thank you for adding more blame and recriminations to those of us who fought as hard as we could and are
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#1
NO WHITE WOMAN (other than trolls) on DU DID and this blame is divisive as hell.
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#4
It is a divisive post for a group on DU at a time when ALL WOMEN are being targeted by MAGA. That you defend
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#8
It is patronizing to defend this. Shame on you. All women on DU are hurting and this blame misogyny is WRONG.
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#21
I am not attacking any black woman, nor would I. DID you even read the OP subject line? Good gawd
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#36
I reread one longer post of yours to me where you clearly put blame on the OP so I feel that I misinterpreted
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#53
I am not labeling myself either. I clearly am what I am every moment of my being, easily seen,
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#111
I just found the AP data, and both Biden and Harris both received 46% of white women's votes.
LauraInLA
Nov 2024
#180
It's showing a different opinion of some Black Women who feel incredibly betrayed....
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#184
Of couse, we as white women have been betrayed by the majority of our "fellow" white women...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#189
Since you worked in Social Services I'd guess you'd have certain educational background to get an initial at least...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#198
What on earth gives you that idea? Of course I feel Extremely Disgusted...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#200
Like I said she's in extra pain, and lashing out blanketly. As for the...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#205
If I as a white woman found out any of my white friends voted for drumphf...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#234
She's feeling extremely betrayed, people can lash out in a general way under these conditions...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#231
You know how we can differentiate white women who voted for Trump vs Kamala Harris?
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2024
#19
I thought the poster above was being sacastic about the blue bracelets....
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#230
Well, the video starts out by criticizing white women for wearing those blue bracelets.
Patton French
Nov 2024
#67
My point is that the video is not directed to white women Trump voters, as some have suggested.
Patton French
Nov 2024
#74
Yes, the Right has made it easier for black Americans to recognize political friendlies.
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2024
#109
I respect that she had an opinion, but are you saying that we're suppose to respond by NOT buying the bracelets for our
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2024
#145
Since Black women carry the additional scourge of racism, it's understandible for her to feel more betrayed thinking..
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#232
As someone who lives in mostly blue NYC when election results are particularly onerous and you are few in the Dem...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#292
Donald Trump has won the majority of white women voters for the third straight time. Even after destroying abortion ri
Fullduplexxx
Nov 2024
#34
Which is why imho the woman in the vid feels so much more betrayed now...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#235
Exactly. How the hell is this appropriate when we are all (but especially women) dealing with this horrific outcome?
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#11
Any group that voted for Orange Bastard in the majority is to blame for the fucking messy shit we are in.
SoFlaBro
Nov 2024
#7
Which, imho, is why she feels extra betrayed. She thought, hoped more white women would turn against drumphf
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#233
Me too... I am so fuckin pissed, flabbergasted and outraged. I have posted a flip off on FB to ALL
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#265
Actually, I believe she would own figuring out how to be part of the solution-as always
happy feet
Nov 2024
#136
Every single individual who voted for It, or for Jill Stein, or who just stayed home
Crunchy Frog
Nov 2024
#290
i wonder what they will say when Jared Kushner and Bibi agree to Kushner leading the redevelopment of Gaza
Takket
Nov 2024
#44
Apparently it is fine to continue the misogyny on DU--targeting the very women who are clearly NOT to blame.
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#22
It's a about keeping the identity groups squabbling among themselves. Don't Look Up!
jalan48
Nov 2024
#27
A loss for Kamala Harris, was not just a loss for the black community.
Baitball Blogger
Nov 2024
#17
The poster is showing one kind of opinion as uncomfortable as it might feel...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#236
STOP the MISOGYNY DIVISIVE BLAME ON DU to Donquixote for the OP and all defending the posting.
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#25
Anybody that fucking voted for that Orange Bastard can fucking kick rocks regardless of demographic.
SoFlaBro
Nov 2024
#113
Kicked off of what? Voting for that fucking turd is antithetical to electing Democrats.
SoFlaBro
Nov 2024
#117
Again ALL women are under direct attack ALL. Your intent to divide won't work. THe women DO stand together
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#40
The OP posted an attack. It was not intended as a constructiive discussion of "how do we reach the group that
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#71
I have seen the video on YouTube and I gave it the consideration it deserved
Keepthesoulalive
Nov 2024
#127
Well... Right now she's feeling immense pain, probably fearing what may come down the pike...in time she might change...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#174
Imho, of course All Women, AND Black Women have another nasty to deadly layers of experiences thenselves, relatives...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#187
Bc I said "And Black Women have another layer of" terrible experiences to deal with.
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#197
But I guess that is where my argument lays. I agree there is a greater with black women.
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#209
I'm confused. Did you not watch the video or do you not know what the term means?
FBaggins
Nov 2024
#64
Uh... i don't think so? Black women have been the most consistent Democratic voting block, with a large (but) minority
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#246
Going for a personal attack on her glasses instead of addressing the issues?
IzzaNuDay
Nov 2024
#146
It IS the grief of every non-Magat woman who voted for Kamala. And Black Women have the extra pain of racism which was
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#243
A black was hired. A woman has never been hired and the choice was pretty clear.
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#298
Might want to give the obligatory "Not all X" disclaimer, given white fragility.
Lancero
Nov 2024
#61
So, a group already under misogynistic atttack dares to complain and you decide to mansplain to us?
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#73
So, your behavior being called out is something you just can't handle. Not surprised.
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#79
A male accusing a woman on DU as being "entitled and privileged" as he accuses us of "fragility" for complaining
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#90
Your voice is apparently the only one you think matters--enough that you mansplain to every woman on this thread
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#95
**Source: Robin DiAngelo, "White Fragility" (a woman author who's not mansplainin')**
Duncan Grant
Nov 2024
#207
Yes. But as you see if you read down the thread, at least one is accusing the women of DU of being "entitled and
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#122
Accusing ANY woman of being entitled and privileged/fragile for not putting up with the attacks/misogyny?
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#135
You can take your misogynistic mansplaining to the women of DU and travel to the right wing websites more
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#154
Yet YOU think you can speak as a man for all women, tell them what to do and think and deride them continually.
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#172
It would appear you speak for misogynists everywhere. Even if it is just your kneejerk response...
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#247
You could learn an immense amount from the example of DUer Dennis Donnovan. You won't. But you should. Rinse, repeat].
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#272
Learn from your betters and maybe learn to write for yourself. Rinse, repeat, again and again. Thank YOU.
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#276
Did you hire someone to mansplain for you? Thank them for me too, but no thanks
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#278
Pitiful. Can't even write your own messages now. Lost the art of "mansplaining, eh?"
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#281
Very good article. Knew a fair amount of the history, and two things were new to me.
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#297
I tend to agree w you. This is how some Black Women are feeling right now, maybe for a long time.
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#250
I credit you that, thank you, but you need to indicate in the OP what the original name was to explain the reactions...
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#119
Right.. Women "can't understand." Good gawd is there any limit to your misogyny?
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#124
This election was not about a first black woman loss. A black man already won, twice.
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#123
Your post was a two fold insult. Again being told to sit down stfu and learn about misogyny....
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#155
Why are YOU so determined to divide women? WHY? How does that help us for the continuing fight?
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#248
It was the title of the thread which has since been (recently) edited. You missed the entire reason for the
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#159
For the current recent experience Black women are feeling incredibly betrayed... Pain can lash out in a very...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#178
She's in TOO Much Pain to hear them right now. Might change her mind in the future
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#185
But really, arent we all. Arent ALL us women in the same very same, exactly same
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#210
Yes, and maybe no. We (except for Magat women) feel the loss of Kamala 's potential Presidency!...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#212
ALL women who fought for Harris-Walz feel incredibly betrayed by those women who did NOT. Can you not appreciate
hlthe2b
Nov 2024
#245
The definition of racism I grew up w is that it was part of a system...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#258
Because, if one says a black woman is offering a "passive aggressive racist tirade"...
Duncan Grant
Nov 2024
#289
You are not correct again, so I am going to assume you think that little of the women on
LizBeth
Nov 2024
#291
Why is this discussion now going on in another thread? https://www.democraticunderground.com/118770750
LauraInLA
Nov 2024
#195
There's diversity walk, lessons on white fragility, when did you notice a difference
Keepthesoulalive
Nov 2024
#222
I was curious why you discontinued a discussion you started here and moved it to another forum. I found it interesting.
LauraInLA
Nov 2024
#285
No, it's not a problem. You asked me why I asked about it, and I answered you.
LauraInLA
Nov 2024
#302
"constant recalibration" A quite apt phase. Having to judge most, or all situations maybe particularly dealing white...
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#299
The blue bracelets are supposed show as white women they voted for Harris, not drumphf
electric_blue68
Nov 2024
#301