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7. It is self sabotage to demonize the single biggest voting block. We're supposed to be inclusive.

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We Asked Young Men Why They Voted for Donald Trump--Here's What They Said [View all] Nevilledog Nov 15 OP

I fucking figured all of that "patriarchy" talk along with "toxic masculinity" would start to turn off young, white men. SoFlaBro Nov 15 #1

Young white men wanted to be "turned off". It's rationalization for bad behavior. Walleye Nov 15 #3

I said it multiple times here - only to be told I was wrong. PeaceWave Nov 15 #5

You are wrong Cirsium Nov 15 #31

Right up there with Christians being persecuted TexasBushwhacker Nov 15 #33

Exactly Cirsium Nov 15 #40

Not out of date at all - it is alive and strong in Texas TBF Nov 15 #105

Exactly. The only thing this proves Diraven Nov 15 #55

It was in place LONG before the "right-wing media." valleyrogue Nov 15 #67

WTF? Cirsium Nov 15 #114

For fuck's sake... Blue_Tires Nov 15 #62

And I've got something else to say... Blue_Tires Nov 15 #97

This needed to be said. I hope we listen. Ilikepurple Nov 15 #112

Exactly right Cirsium Nov 15 #115

Post removed Post removed Nov 15 #125

If the shoe fits... AZSkiffyGeek Nov 15 #6

If they are offended by "patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" they need to ask themselves why. Coventina Nov 15 #8

My white husband and three Bettie Nov 15 #20

And they wonder why we choose the bear NT AZSkiffyGeek Nov 15 #24

Based on the division it created in our own party, I wonder if that bear was Russian. PeaceWave Nov 15 #25

Or maybe women are sick of patronizing men telling them not to worry about toxic masculinity and the patriarchy AZSkiffyGeek Nov 15 #28

Exactly... I'm. A white man... Happy Hoosier Saturday #132

Neither is mine. Neither is my son. Neither are my sons in law. CTyankee Saturday #135

If conservative white boys are invited in, who do we kick out? Duncan Grant Nov 15 #30

It seems that what they actually want Bettie Nov 15 #78

I know these types Ndp5 Nov 15 #80

Young women are certainly turned off by the patriarchy and the toxic masculinity of Republicans. Quiet Em Nov 15 #46

So to coin one of their favorite catchphrases Blue_Tires Nov 15 #61

The truth is a turnoff. I quit caring about them a long time ago. valleyrogue Nov 15 #68

Based on most of the replies in this thread, Democrats still don't get it. Ex Lurker Nov 15 #71

Thank you! I am 100% for trans rights and inclusion. But I know that I fucking can't convince a Rogan listener leading SoFlaBro Nov 15 #82

Bingo. Nothing is accomplished by starting with "Most white men are toxic, dangerous and murderers." PeaceWave Nov 15 #87

Statistically speaking angrychair Nov 15 #113

And lost 2 elections to a burgeoning autocrat SDANation Nov 15 #122

We got 73 million votes (and still counting) angrychair Nov 15 #123

We DO "get it." People like you do not. valleyrogue Nov 15 #100

Harris was proposing to lift everybody up. Freethinker65 Saturday #128

Oh really. ismnotwasm Nov 15 #92

I'm sorry, but he sounds like an ignorant dick to me Walleye Nov 15 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author onecaliberal Nov 15 #9

Irony was certainly lost on him. nt RandomNumbers Nov 15 #73

Proving yet again, you can't fix stupid. CanonRay Nov 15 #4

It is self sabotage to demonize the single biggest voting block. We're supposed to be inclusive. PeaceWave Nov 15 #7

I'm sorry but I'm not going to include people who want to hurt and or kill people. onecaliberal Nov 15 #11

Not all young white men "want to hurt and or kill people." PeaceWave Nov 15 #12

Yes I know. I gave birth to two of them and am married to another. onecaliberal Nov 15 #15

You're wrong. "The overwhelming majority of young white men do NOT hurt and kill people." PeaceWave Nov 15 #17

Data is your friend. onecaliberal Nov 15 #53

How about you show us the data - since it's not everyone else's responsibility to fact check you... PeaceWave Nov 15 #57

Your last post on this site was 15 minutes ago, i.e you've had a chance to respond with Abolishinist Nov 15 #126

The overwhelming number of them don't care one way or another. haele Nov 15 #120

Really? Zeitghost Nov 15 #49

No, it isn't our "messaging." Why is this still being repeated? valleyrogue Nov 15 #70

"Not All Men" AZSkiffyGeek Nov 15 #21

They aren't the largest voting bloc. White women are. Nt spooky3 Nov 15 #18

We've tried to include them and they rejected us Blue_Tires Nov 15 #58

You have to be kidding. Seriously. They can't be fixed. n/t valleyrogue Nov 15 #69

From what I'm seeing, your suggestion is that we Bettie Nov 15 #79

Anyone mention snowybirdie Nov 15 #10

So, he voted for a convicted felon who will break up immigrant families, take away reproductive rights of women, Yavin4 Nov 15 #13

"Not their issue"? I can hear the whinging when the Phoenix61 Nov 15 #14

Sigh. Now the "lesson" Democrats will likely take from this is Bettie Nov 15 #16

If you vote for a known rapist Johonny Nov 15 #19

Sounds like a guy who can't wait to pay 18 years of child support after a one night stand. Vinca Nov 15 #22

No wonder that these losers can't find a woman, Squaredeal Nov 15 #23

They need Jordan Peterson to tell them to take a shower and clean their room AZSkiffyGeek Nov 15 #27

I am so fucking tired of men taking everything said about men as a personal affront to themselves. intheflow Nov 15 #26

If you say it like that, it's offensive to me. This is a forum of Democrats. When you say, "FFS, grow the fuck up, Men!" Doodley Nov 15 #60

Men who jump on women posting in liberal forum intheflow Nov 15 #64

Why are you so aggressive towards me? Doodley Nov 15 #103

Why are you making this about you? intheflow Saturday #129

Bye. Doodley Saturday #134

I'm shocked by what I'm reading here soandso Nov 15 #89

Thank you. I'm a white man. Should I be ashamed? I'm a poet, a vegetarian, a Democrat, a humble soul. I took care of Doodley Nov 15 #98

I'm a vegetarian, too soandso Nov 15 #107

We can be in the Veg Squad! I will remember your name and your kindness and look out for you on the DU highways. Doodley Nov 15 #116

Aww, thanks! soandso Nov 15 #118

It isn't intense man hating. intheflow Saturday #130

Perhaps so many young men has been bypassed in recent years being that the IT revolution bypassed a lot of them, SWBTATTReg Nov 15 #29

Will your response be similarly dismissive when AI "bypasses" millions over the next decade? PeaceWave Nov 15 #32

Yes, but the thing I didn't add the first time was that millions of new jobs were created back then, and will be when SWBTATTReg Nov 15 #34

I think, as do many others, that AI is going to be seismic, resulting in massive job losses... PeaceWave Nov 15 #35

I think a overreaction. People really don't know at this point what AI truly is yet. The tech is so new, that even IT, SWBTATTReg Nov 15 #47

I'm close to retirement in an unrelated field. My primary concern is for the next generation. PeaceWave Nov 15 #48

Perhaps congrats on retiring soon! The next generation hopefully is looking forward to this whole new field, SWBTATTReg Nov 15 #51

AI is cancer Blue_Tires Nov 15 #59

Fuck nic spanone Nov 15 #36

Did it ever occur to Nic that women in general are assumed to be inherently bad people because of our gender. Quiet Em Nov 15 #37

Where are you getting that? soandso Nov 15 #93

Post removed Post removed Nov 15 #99

So you can't address what you said? soandso Nov 15 #102

I could address you, Quiet Em Nov 15 #110

Your choice soandso Nov 15 #111

Wild statement? Quiet Em Nov 15 #119

My "type"? soandso Nov 15 #124

What is he talking about? I never heard Kamala talk about white males being the problem. ellemb Nov 15 #38

Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate told him she did though! AZSkiffyGeek Nov 15 #44

He sounds like a 21 year old boy striving to be a REAL man by conforming to the mythology. Ping Tung Nov 15 #39

So basically he kacekwl Nov 15 #41

Whining bitches with not enough education or sense to make living wages JT45242 Nov 15 #42

Well, I can only say that if Trump Dan Nov 15 #43

Maybe not women radical noodle Nov 15 #85

I suspect that his view Dan Nov 15 #86

They'll need cannon fodder radical noodle Nov 15 #94

Oh you poor little snowflakes! Did your feelings get hurt? yardwork Nov 15 #45

They may not be bad people liberalmediaaddict Nov 15 #50

he can ride out on the same god damn horse Anza404 Nov 15 #52

Try getting a date when you are homeless peregrinus Nov 15 #54

Idiocracy wasn't supposed to be a documentary. n/t flvegan Nov 15 #56

Yeah, OK. Solly Mack Nov 15 #63

Okay, the "Not all FITB are FITB " argument, weak... haele Nov 15 #65

Aggrieved white males afraid of losing a tiny bit of their privilege. valleyrogue Nov 15 #66

Alot of these young men today Dem4life1234 Nov 15 #72

Dear young men who voted for TFG, don't get fucked. raccoon Nov 15 #74

I will admit it Bettie Nov 15 #75

Good luck with them Dem4life1234 Nov 15 #76

I can't tolerate four more years of "understanding" morons and bigots. TheKentuckian Nov 15 #77

Which came first Progressive dog Nov 15 #81

Poor, poor white men. choie Nov 15 #83

Na you're just a salty little incel vercetti2021 Nov 15 #84

Bravo. You win the prize for least promising attempt at voter outreach. Yeesh. PeaceWave Nov 15 #88

As a trans person I don't give a rats ass anymore vercetti2021 Nov 15 #90

My Voter outreach. Dudes! You white right? Cool. Ilikepurple Nov 15 #101

Asshole. Scrivener7 Nov 15 #91

If ANYONE, male or female, tells me they "resonate" with Trump in any way, they are DEAD to me instantly! CTyankee Nov 15 #95

sonny boy needs to Kali Nov 15 #96

TLDR version "I'm very stupid and don't understand what anyone is saying or RockRaven Nov 15 #104

"Those guys are still out there and they're not going away." J_William_Ryan Nov 15 #106

No "real man" would vote for Trump--- Jack Valentino Nov 15 #108

Trump appealed to his base Docreed2003 Nov 15 #109

All that aside, any Trump voter can kiss my ass!!! oasis Nov 15 #117

Who is hurting these boy's feelings anyway? Klarkashton Nov 15 #121

Well he seems inherently non-critical thinking and easy to exploit and manipulate. Freethinker65 Nov 15 #127

I'm guessing probably reasons were complicated pinkstarburst Saturday #131

This will probably get me flamed Asa13 Saturday #133