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In reply to the discussion: Democrats need to address the "Working Class" problem and get over the "Isms" [View all]kacekwl
(7,587 posts)79. Messaging ? Your think republican
messaging was better. It was all lies all hatred all insulting. Sorry, if you think Democratic messaging was bad it's because you were not listening or you believed the lies. No ism here just gullibility or you agree the Republicans platform there is no other reason to vote trump.
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Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
OP
That's it. It's impossible to win against a rich white man who lies about everything, promises everything,
viva la
Nov 16
#101
Not hardly. Take credit where credit is due. There's a hell of a lot of credit we're due in that regard.
paleotn
Nov 16
#126
Then we made a mistake nominating VP Harris? And from here on only EITHER non-white OR
kelly1mm
Nov 16
#136
Well that hits like a 2x4! Maybe (probably?) true though. I fear the first woman in the WH will be a R. nt
kelly1mm
Nov 16
#142
Oh, God. You might be right. And look at that field of possibilities. Gabbard, the Russian asset,
Scrivener7
Nov 16
#145
Laura Trump, the next Senator from FL and (potential) future 1st woman President? She has the name ... nt
kelly1mm
Nov 16
#146
No. Racism and sexism among our own is what came back to bite us. Look at the numbers.
Scrivener7
Nov 21
#228
America has no problem electing a black president who has enough charisma to stop a train.
Scrivener7
Nov 21
#235
No it didn't. Many know it but just don't want to accept it, because accepting it admits failure. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#33
I'm seeing a lot about messaging and I get that. A Bernie type of candidate may have wiped the floor with tRump
yaesu
Nov 16
#2
Messaging means nothing if voters don't feel like the Democrats have done enough for them...
DSandra
Nov 16
#48
It's almost like our messaging didn't reach the voters! Glad we agree!
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#39
Considering those states are some of the highest concentrations of Black Americans, I wonder what you mean. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#56
It's a very good question. If people think letting magats suffer after voting for
Tadpole Raisin
Nov 16
#65
Good luck with your procedure. As for the OP, we left-of-center libs/progressive Dems are at...
brush
Nov 21
#234
Yep, MAGA framing is as if PoC aren't mostly "working class" ... M$M repeats it ad nauseum
uponit7771
Nov 16
#91
I agree. Bernie has been saying this for awhile, but it's not a message favored by the wealth class.
jalan48
Nov 16
#4
Agreed. "Identity" is a losing message, period. We're losing the AA and Latino vote to economic extremists. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#9
92% of less than 10% of the American voting populace isn't enough. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#18
Didn't apparently try to convince his mom and grandma that they were voting for a racist transphobe either...
AZSkiffyGeek
Nov 16
#111
But they still have the right to vote...so...they will go with the one who speaks like they do.
Lucky Luciano
Nov 16
#85
As someone who is in the bottom 80%, people saying that the economy is great when its not for them...
DSandra
Nov 16
#51
Trump doubled the standard deduction, increased the Child Tax Credit, and expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit
Shermann
Nov 16
#13
Exactly. Even if he's lying, he's telling people what they want to hear. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#14
The tax brackets changed, eliminating most of that benefit of an increased standard deduction.
paleotn
Nov 16
#63
You're only getting part of the picture. You forgot about personal and dependent exemptions.
paleotn
Nov 16
#110
The price of eggs mattered. Pure b.s. and a cover story for stolen election. Just my thought.
Botany
Nov 16
#8
Don't worry guys. Next time new messaging: "Free Brawndo for all. Brawndo has electrolytes! It's got what plants crave!"
spudspud
Nov 16
#22
What about 'em? Their numbers are irrelevant and even if they weren't, Trump's eating into them.
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#32
You didn't listen to the messaging. It was all about working class needs.
travelingthrulife
Nov 16
#86
"We're losing Blacks" This is false on its face, same number of blacks voted for Harris this time than last time ...
uponit7771
Nov 16
#99
Fucking Kanye West puts on a stupid fucking MAGA hat and they claim blacks are moving toward fucking MAGA.
SoFlaBro
Nov 17
#158
That is false or misleading Biden did not get 92% of the Black vote He got 87%
standingtall
Nov 17
#177
Please quote your claim from the article, I could not find it after text search and reading it
uponit7771
Nov 17
#183
Sadly, I doubt that blue collar workers will get it until they've all lost their unions.
PeaceWave
Nov 16
#30
So, are you saying these workers would prefer to have no benefits? The GOP can arrange that.
PeaceWave
Nov 16
#37
Democrats should focus on economic issues and keep cultural issues at local level
dalton99a
Nov 16
#38
Enumerate which ones you mean. Women's reproductive rights and care? Racism? All that?
Hekate
Nov 16
#47
Abortions wasn't important to 70-80% of people; We focused on shit people didn't care about.
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 16
#52
When these accursed forced-birthers moved away from "babies" and started redefining...
Hekate
Nov 16
#151
When can we start addressing "class" issues? That's the fertile ground, imho.
Duncan Grant
Nov 16
#71
Yeah, but you and me both know that's not what they mean when they say "working class."
Iggo
Nov 16
#100
it's the republicans who keep "isms" going. They are the ones who are DESPERATE
ecstatic
Nov 16
#144
The problem is the more stupidi of white folks get the "economic anxiety" something awful anytime a Republican isn't
TheKentuckian
Nov 17
#170
'"Racism!" "Sexism!" "Transphobic!" but at the end of the day none of that mattered'
marmar
Nov 17
#173
"let's start winning election and speak to the people crying out for help."
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 17
#176
Democrats need to address that there's a massive propaganda problem in this country.
Initech
Nov 18
#192
do you have a credible source for this backlash? I'm finding a lot of claims but no credible sources... Thx in advance
uponit7771
Nov 21
#206
That's anecdote not data from credible source like Gallop showing how "isms" affected voting patterns. What we do have
uponit7771
Nov 21
#216
We all tend to be products of our environment, information we're surrounded with might not be true
uponit7771
Nov 21
#218
This adds do move voters just didn't change votes, this was a turn out election for MAGA too
uponit7771
Nov 21
#222