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In reply to the discussion: Democrats need to address the "Working Class" problem and get over the "Isms" [View all]
Lucky Luciano
(11,784 posts)85. But they still have the right to vote...so...they will go with the one who speaks like they do.
Fuckface knows his audience. He keeps his speeches at a fourth grade level.
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Democrats need to address the "Working Class" problem and get over the "Isms" [View all]
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
OP
So the race was lost as soon as Biden stepped down and she became the candidate?
jalan48
Nov 2024
#17
That's it. It's impossible to win against a rich white man who lies about everything, promises everything,
viva la
Nov 2024
#101
Not hardly. Take credit where credit is due. There's a hell of a lot of credit we're due in that regard.
paleotn
Nov 2024
#126
Look at the numbers!!! It was race and gender!!! That is the WHOLE story!!!
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#103
Then we made a mistake nominating VP Harris? And from here on only EITHER non-white OR
kelly1mm
Nov 2024
#136
Yes. It is. And we have been beaten over the head twice now with that fact.
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#141
Well that hits like a 2x4! Maybe (probably?) true though. I fear the first woman in the WH will be a R. nt
kelly1mm
Nov 2024
#142
Oh, God. You might be right. And look at that field of possibilities. Gabbard, the Russian asset,
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#145
Laura Trump, the next Senator from FL and (potential) future 1st woman President? She has the name ... nt
kelly1mm
Nov 2024
#146
No. Racism and sexism among our own is what came back to bite us. Look at the numbers.
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#228
America has no problem electing a black president who has enough charisma to stop a train.
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#235
No it didn't. Many know it but just don't want to accept it, because accepting it admits failure. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#33
I'm seeing a lot about messaging and I get that. A Bernie type of candidate may have wiped the floor with tRump
yaesu
Nov 2024
#2
Messaging means nothing if voters don't feel like the Democrats have done enough for them...
DSandra
Nov 2024
#48
It's almost like our messaging didn't reach the voters! Glad we agree!
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#39
Considering those states are some of the highest concentrations of Black Americans, I wonder what you mean. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#56
It's a very good question. If people think letting magats suffer after voting for
Tadpole Raisin
Nov 2024
#65
Good luck with your procedure. As for the OP, we left-of-center libs/progressive Dems are at...
brush
Nov 2024
#234
Yep, MAGA framing is as if PoC aren't mostly "working class" ... M$M repeats it ad nauseum
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#91
I agree. Bernie has been saying this for awhile, but it's not a message favored by the wealth class.
jalan48
Nov 2024
#4
Agreed. "Identity" is a losing message, period. We're losing the AA and Latino vote to economic extremists. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#9
92% of less than 10% of the American voting populace isn't enough. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#18
Didn't apparently try to convince his mom and grandma that they were voting for a racist transphobe either...
AZSkiffyGeek
Nov 2024
#111
But they still have the right to vote...so...they will go with the one who speaks like they do.
Lucky Luciano
Nov 2024
#85
As someone who is in the bottom 80%, people saying that the economy is great when its not for them...
DSandra
Nov 2024
#51
Trump doubled the standard deduction, increased the Child Tax Credit, and expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit
Shermann
Nov 2024
#13
Exactly. Even if he's lying, he's telling people what they want to hear. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#14
The tax brackets changed, eliminating most of that benefit of an increased standard deduction.
paleotn
Nov 2024
#63
You're only getting part of the picture. You forgot about personal and dependent exemptions.
paleotn
Nov 2024
#110
The price of eggs mattered. Pure b.s. and a cover story for stolen election. Just my thought.
Botany
Nov 2024
#8
Don't worry guys. Next time new messaging: "Free Brawndo for all. Brawndo has electrolytes! It's got what plants crave!"
spudspud
Nov 2024
#22
What about 'em? Their numbers are irrelevant and even if they weren't, Trump's eating into them.
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#32
You didn't listen to the messaging. It was all about working class needs.
travelingthrulife
Nov 2024
#86
"We're losing Blacks" This is false on its face, same number of blacks voted for Harris this time than last time ...
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#99
Fucking Kanye West puts on a stupid fucking MAGA hat and they claim blacks are moving toward fucking MAGA.
SoFlaBro
Nov 2024
#158
That is false or misleading Biden did not get 92% of the Black vote He got 87%
standingtall
Nov 2024
#177
Please quote your claim from the article, I could not find it after text search and reading it
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#183
Democrats should focus on economic issues and keep cultural issues at local level
dalton99a
Nov 2024
#38
Enumerate which ones you mean. Women's reproductive rights and care? Racism? All that?
Hekate
Nov 2024
#47
Abortions wasn't important to 70-80% of people; We focused on shit people didn't care about.
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#52
When these accursed forced-birthers moved away from "babies" and started redefining...
Hekate
Nov 2024
#151
They'll use cultural issues no matter what the Dems do (2004 gay marriage).
Duncan Grant
Nov 2024
#69
When can we start addressing "class" issues? That's the fertile ground, imho.
Duncan Grant
Nov 2024
#71
Yeah, but you and me both know that's not what they mean when they say "working class."
Iggo
Nov 2024
#100
it's the republicans who keep "isms" going. They are the ones who are DESPERATE
ecstatic
Nov 2024
#144
The problem is the more stupidi of white folks get the "economic anxiety" something awful anytime a Republican isn't
TheKentuckian
Nov 2024
#170
'"Racism!" "Sexism!" "Transphobic!" but at the end of the day none of that mattered'
marmar
Nov 2024
#173
"let's start winning election and speak to the people crying out for help."
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2024
#176
Democrats need to address that there's a massive propaganda problem in this country.
Initech
Nov 2024
#192
do you have a credible source for this backlash? I'm finding a lot of claims but no credible sources... Thx in advance
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#206
That's anecdote not data from credible source like Gallop showing how "isms" affected voting patterns. What we do have
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#216
We all tend to be products of our environment, information we're surrounded with might not be true
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#218
This adds do move voters just didn't change votes, this was a turn out election for MAGA too
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#222
2024 was about preserving the wealthy white anglo male christian patriarchy
GoreWon2000
Nov 2024
#220
The presidential campaign did insist that the economy was great. That was a giant mistake.
Voltaire2
Nov 2024
#231