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In reply to the discussion: Democrats need to address the "Working Class" problem and get over the "Isms" [View all]
Eko
(9,738 posts)154. I can walk and chew gum at the same time!
All those -isms are well worth fighting for as well as the poor.
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Democrats need to address the "Working Class" problem and get over the "Isms" [View all]
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
OP
So the race was lost as soon as Biden stepped down and she became the candidate?
jalan48
Nov 2024
#17
That's it. It's impossible to win against a rich white man who lies about everything, promises everything,
viva la
Nov 2024
#101
Not hardly. Take credit where credit is due. There's a hell of a lot of credit we're due in that regard.
paleotn
Nov 2024
#126
Look at the numbers!!! It was race and gender!!! That is the WHOLE story!!!
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#103
Then we made a mistake nominating VP Harris? And from here on only EITHER non-white OR
kelly1mm
Nov 2024
#136
Yes. It is. And we have been beaten over the head twice now with that fact.
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#141
Well that hits like a 2x4! Maybe (probably?) true though. I fear the first woman in the WH will be a R. nt
kelly1mm
Nov 2024
#142
Oh, God. You might be right. And look at that field of possibilities. Gabbard, the Russian asset,
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#145
Laura Trump, the next Senator from FL and (potential) future 1st woman President? She has the name ... nt
kelly1mm
Nov 2024
#146
No. Racism and sexism among our own is what came back to bite us. Look at the numbers.
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#228
America has no problem electing a black president who has enough charisma to stop a train.
Scrivener7
Nov 2024
#235
No it didn't. Many know it but just don't want to accept it, because accepting it admits failure. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#33
I'm seeing a lot about messaging and I get that. A Bernie type of candidate may have wiped the floor with tRump
yaesu
Nov 2024
#2
Messaging means nothing if voters don't feel like the Democrats have done enough for them...
DSandra
Nov 2024
#48
It's almost like our messaging didn't reach the voters! Glad we agree!
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#39
Considering those states are some of the highest concentrations of Black Americans, I wonder what you mean. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#56
It's a very good question. If people think letting magats suffer after voting for
Tadpole Raisin
Nov 2024
#65
Good luck with your procedure. As for the OP, we left-of-center libs/progressive Dems are at...
brush
Nov 2024
#234
Yep, MAGA framing is as if PoC aren't mostly "working class" ... M$M repeats it ad nauseum
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#91
I agree. Bernie has been saying this for awhile, but it's not a message favored by the wealth class.
jalan48
Nov 2024
#4
Agreed. "Identity" is a losing message, period. We're losing the AA and Latino vote to economic extremists. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#9
92% of less than 10% of the American voting populace isn't enough. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#18
Didn't apparently try to convince his mom and grandma that they were voting for a racist transphobe either...
AZSkiffyGeek
Nov 2024
#111
But they still have the right to vote...so...they will go with the one who speaks like they do.
Lucky Luciano
Nov 2024
#85
As someone who is in the bottom 80%, people saying that the economy is great when its not for them...
DSandra
Nov 2024
#51
Trump doubled the standard deduction, increased the Child Tax Credit, and expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit
Shermann
Nov 2024
#13
Exactly. Even if he's lying, he's telling people what they want to hear. n/t
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#14
The tax brackets changed, eliminating most of that benefit of an increased standard deduction.
paleotn
Nov 2024
#63
You're only getting part of the picture. You forgot about personal and dependent exemptions.
paleotn
Nov 2024
#110
The price of eggs mattered. Pure b.s. and a cover story for stolen election. Just my thought.
Botany
Nov 2024
#8
Don't worry guys. Next time new messaging: "Free Brawndo for all. Brawndo has electrolytes! It's got what plants crave!"
spudspud
Nov 2024
#22
What about 'em? Their numbers are irrelevant and even if they weren't, Trump's eating into them.
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#32
You didn't listen to the messaging. It was all about working class needs.
travelingthrulife
Nov 2024
#86
"We're losing Blacks" This is false on its face, same number of blacks voted for Harris this time than last time ...
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#99
Fucking Kanye West puts on a stupid fucking MAGA hat and they claim blacks are moving toward fucking MAGA.
SoFlaBro
Nov 2024
#158
That is false or misleading Biden did not get 92% of the Black vote He got 87%
standingtall
Nov 2024
#177
Please quote your claim from the article, I could not find it after text search and reading it
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#183
Democrats should focus on economic issues and keep cultural issues at local level
dalton99a
Nov 2024
#38
Enumerate which ones you mean. Women's reproductive rights and care? Racism? All that?
Hekate
Nov 2024
#47
Abortions wasn't important to 70-80% of people; We focused on shit people didn't care about.
Hellbound Hellhound
Nov 2024
#52
When these accursed forced-birthers moved away from "babies" and started redefining...
Hekate
Nov 2024
#151
They'll use cultural issues no matter what the Dems do (2004 gay marriage).
Duncan Grant
Nov 2024
#69
When can we start addressing "class" issues? That's the fertile ground, imho.
Duncan Grant
Nov 2024
#71
Yeah, but you and me both know that's not what they mean when they say "working class."
Iggo
Nov 2024
#100
it's the republicans who keep "isms" going. They are the ones who are DESPERATE
ecstatic
Nov 2024
#144
The problem is the more stupidi of white folks get the "economic anxiety" something awful anytime a Republican isn't
TheKentuckian
Nov 2024
#170
'"Racism!" "Sexism!" "Transphobic!" but at the end of the day none of that mattered'
marmar
Nov 2024
#173
"let's start winning election and speak to the people crying out for help."
WhiskeyGrinder
Nov 2024
#176
Democrats need to address that there's a massive propaganda problem in this country.
Initech
Nov 2024
#192
do you have a credible source for this backlash? I'm finding a lot of claims but no credible sources... Thx in advance
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#206
That's anecdote not data from credible source like Gallop showing how "isms" affected voting patterns. What we do have
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#216
We all tend to be products of our environment, information we're surrounded with might not be true
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#218
This adds do move voters just didn't change votes, this was a turn out election for MAGA too
uponit7771
Nov 2024
#222
2024 was about preserving the wealthy white anglo male christian patriarchy
GoreWon2000
Nov 2024
#220
The presidential campaign did insist that the economy was great. That was a giant mistake.
Voltaire2
Nov 2024
#231