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Vinca

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15. For starters, he could pre-emptively pardon all the military people involved in the Afghanistan withdrawal and

Tue Nov 19, 2024, 12:17 PM

Nov 19

put the brakes on that. Secondly, he could grant automatic citizenship to Dreamers. Probably wouldn't hold up legally, but it would delay their deportation. I think he should pardon his son. Sure, he did the crimes, but we're looking at hundreds of violent insurrectionist criminals being forgiven on January 20, 2025, and Hunter's crimes are small potatoes compared to them. Trump wants to ramp up federal executions of criminals on death row. Biden could stay that and turn it into a life sentence. There's lots of stuff he can do if he wants to.

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Joe, execute your fucking power [View all] Aviation Pro Nov 19 OP

Enough with the dictator-porn. It's fucking gross. tritsofme Nov 19 #1

Enough with people who don't value their and other's lives. Aviation Pro Nov 19 #2

You are the one demanding other people put their lives on the line to stage a coup tritsofme Nov 19 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author drray23 Nov 19 #88

His options are limited. Elessar Zappa Nov 19 #3

The same limits on Motherfucker? Aviation Pro Nov 19 #4

Okay, then. Since Joe isn't going to do what you want. onenote Nov 19 #7

I feel ya...I will NEVER forgive the NOSE HOLDERS from 2016 Eliot Rosewater Nov 19 #54

Will result in civil war Matthew28 Nov 19 #6

Yes, yes we do.... Aviation Pro Nov 19 #8

You first, chief Sympthsical Nov 19 #9

Would people rather live in bondage to fascists....or die a free person? DSandra Nov 19 #89

I'm coming to the conclusion that we owe Trump an apology FBaggins Nov 19 #10

It has been very eye-opening, and incredibly disappointing. tritsofme Nov 19 #11

Eye-opening is right. "Go Along to Get Along." Kid Berwyn Nov 19 #22

If you want to live in pretend-land where a coup is an option, I don't know what to tell you. tritsofme Nov 19 #25

What coup? Kid Berwyn Nov 19 #29

Except now it is you advocating a violent overthrow of the government. tritsofme Nov 19 #33

Where? Kid Berwyn Nov 19 #35

I didn't realize this delusion extended to you thinking staging a coup wouldn't be violent. tritsofme Nov 19 #38

You said coup. I asked President Biden to use his SCrOTUS given powers. Kid Berwyn Nov 19 #39

Done humoring these insurrection fantasies, enjoy. tritsofme Nov 19 #43

Remember to apologize for writing I advocated violence. Kid Berwyn Nov 19 #46

Specifically, what are those powers? wnylib Nov 19 #71

Super Powers DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #100

Criminal immunity for official acts conveys no new powers. TheKentuckian Nov 19 #91

Most Democrats don't want a dictator, most Republicans do, there's the difference. Elessar Zappa Nov 19 #12

You may have missed the OP FBaggins Nov 19 #20

And if she refuses, maybe we can lead groups of tourists through the Capitol tritsofme Nov 19 #23

I get what you're saying here but in all honesty, I would . . Maru Kitteh Nov 19 #32

I read the OP but I don't believe Elessar Zappa Nov 19 #31

So is rollover and die the mainstream view? Aviation Pro Nov 19 #36

You are 100% correct Blue Full Moon Nov 19 #51

What is the mechanism by which we have new elections? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #74

Well considering that this happened and should not have. Blue Full Moon Nov 19 #75

Who is going to determine the election we just had is null and void? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #76

Do we just keep the coup rolling until the results of the extralegal election are to our liking? TheKentuckian Nov 20 #107

Who is going to call for new elections? What statute or precedent will he or she cite? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 20 #115

I hope so FBaggins Nov 19 #37

Didn't a new law pass that makes the VP's role ceremonial? NH Ethylene Nov 20 #103

Pence couldn't have done anything either FBaggins Nov 20 #106

I made no such assumptions. Ms. Toad Nov 19 #44

Sigh joshcryer Nov 19 #82

Post.Of.The.Day. WarGamer Nov 19 #84

Sigh.... jcmaine72 Nov 19 #13

Do what? Self Esteem Nov 19 #14

For starters, he could pre-emptively pardon all the military people involved in the Afghanistan withdrawal and Vinca Nov 19 #15

Thanks for proving my point. Self Esteem Nov 19 #18

I don't think it's performative if you can delay the Dreamers getting the bum's rush out of the country. Tie things up. Vinca Nov 19 #21

Presidents don't have magic wands that confer citizenship. tritsofme Nov 19 #26

I know that. I was suggesting it as a delay tactic. At this point it might get them to a sane Congress in 2 years. Vinca Nov 19 #49

Guess I'm just not seeing how issuing fraudulent paperwork helps or even delays anything. tritsofme Nov 19 #53

No? How many Trump criminal cases have come to trial. Vinca Nov 19 #59

Still not sure how issuing fraudulent paperwork serves any purpose. tritsofme Nov 19 #61

I don't see how it buys a single day. TheKentuckian Nov 20 #109

Thank You..You are absolutely correct. whathehell Nov 19 #30

He doesn't have the authority to grant citizenship. Ms. Toad Nov 19 #47

None of that prevents the transition. TheKentuckian Nov 20 #108

Responding to your shit post Aviation Pro Nov 19 #19

"Safeguard the nation"? ForgedCrank Nov 19 #90

Oh good, you went there first Sympthsical Nov 19 #24

Putin wants the US to fight a civil war. Irish_Dem Nov 19 #16

The power of malignant AI, to divide us; Blappy Nov 19 #85

Democracy has always been worth fighting for. Irish_Dem Nov 19 #87

Noli sinere te opprimant improbi MrWowWow Nov 19 #17

Joe will never use Presidential power The Unmitigated Gall Nov 19 #27

Be specific n/t Shrek Nov 19 #28

No Aviation Pro Nov 19 #34

So your wish is not for any particular act or outcome, just to see raw power wielded, for the heck of it muriel_volestrangler Nov 20 #110

Being specific would short circuit the Veruca Salt routine. TheKentuckian Nov 20 #111

No one is coming to save you. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 19 #40

What exactly are you asking President Biden do? Joinfortmill Nov 19 #41

Afraid? Aviation Pro Nov 19 #50

I agree with you, Aviation Pro! ElementaryPenguin Nov 19 #42

This causes Biden to terminate the Constitution TheKentuckian Nov 19 #93

Like Lincoln was forced to do, yes. ElementaryPenguin Nov 19 #99

Lincoln did no such thing. What are you referring to? TheKentuckian Nov 20 #112

"I asked President Biden to use his SCrOTUS given powers." J_William_Ryan Nov 19 #45

If you are referring to the immunity decision - Ms. Toad Nov 19 #48

That's not what I'm opining about Aviation Pro Nov 19 #52

Sir, what exactly are you opining about? Joinfortmill Nov 19 #58

Joe can't assume protections provided Trump by a still sitting maga majority on the ultimate deciding SC bigtree Nov 19 #55

Reminder: when positing an opinion, be sure to clear it with the cheerleaders first Orrex Nov 19 #56

Right. I've lost count of how many times people have posted that Biden has power to do whatever he wants by fiat, Ms. Toad Nov 19 #60

That's a great example--thanks! Orrex Nov 19 #73

There is a difference between blowing off steam Ms. Toad Nov 20 #105

No Balls no Glory union rep Nov 19 #57

Mark Twain was right SCantiGOP Nov 19 #63

Let us all raise our pinkies dpibel Nov 20 #104

Patriarchy calls opponents *female genitalia* & assumes male genitals are source of courage Bernardo de La Paz Nov 19 #64

Oy. Good to know you! Good luck wherever you land next! tritsofme Nov 19 #65

I support Joe doing almost anything Skvngr Nov 19 #62

Trolls hate your post. Kingofalldems Nov 19 #66

I know Aviation Pro Nov 19 #67

What do you want Joe to do? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #78

They want him to stage a coup. tritsofme Nov 19 #79

Doesn't seem prudent or realistic. He's not Maduro. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #81

They're in the throes of fever dreams tritsofme Nov 19 #83

Doesn't seem realistic that Joe would declare the election null and void and refuse to leave. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #86

Well...these folks don't seem to be particularly fond of constructs like "reality" tritsofme Nov 19 #92

Reality is so hoity toity and super soyboi betacuck! TheKentuckian Nov 20 #113

Lol. Lmao even Seeking Serenity Nov 19 #68

You know what's laughable? Aviation Pro Nov 19 #69

You clearly do not understand how our system works Zeitghost Nov 19 #70

I clearly fucking do Aviation Pro Nov 19 #72

What do you think would happen if Joe declares the election null and void and refused to leave? DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #77

Nuthin' Seeking Serenity Nov 19 #94

LOL DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #96

You can include violence for all I care. Fair game just be forthright about it and what it means. TheKentuckian Nov 20 #114

thumbs down for not understanding the power of the Executive Branch... WarGamer Nov 19 #80

Issuing pardons to all the generals involved in the Afghanistan War is not a terrible idea. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 19 #97

I'm just not sure what benefit it has FBaggins Nov 19 #98

Another day calling for the suspension of the Constitution, and another night without a Postmortem forum Polybius Nov 19 #101

More people wanted Trump to do what he said he would do oldmanlynn Nov 19 #102