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Sympthsical

(10,224 posts)
24. It's for the sake of the country we don't scream "rigged!"
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 02:53 PM
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Because confidence in institutions is vital for the continuance of democracy. If every time something doesn't go our way we start throwing doubt on everything and trying to tear it down, we're damaging the democratic foundations we claim to champion.

That's why Trump is so dangerous. It's not just his ego and narcissism. It's that he's blasting through norms, systems, and institutions to service it. That's where the damage is.

Biden and Harris know you don't start this sort of thing idly, without evidence, just because people on the Internet are having feelings. If we based policy on social media feelings, K-12 would be taught in meme format, TikTok would win Oscars, and the NY Times would be all celebrity gossip.

I am astonished at how quickly this pivot to Trumpish rhetoric is being managed. Not saying this is you, OP, but just the not insignificant eagerness to goad authoritarian measures, buy into fact-free supposition, and a belief that "We just don't know!" is an affirmative argument to start believing stupid shit peddled by whatever grifter comes along.

It's Al Qaeda all over again. AQ couldn't beat us, but our reaction to them could fuck up our freedoms. So with Trump. He's bad enough, but our reaction to him can determine how democracy manages going forward. And right now, I see an alarming number of people warming to the idea of chucking reason and norms for feelings and spite.

I'm hoping this is some kind of temporary crazy and not the norm going forward. Otherwise an already long four years is going to be that much longer.

And long after Trump's gone, as with AQ, we'll continue paying for it.

I hope you aren't screamed at Easterncedar Tuesday #1
Unverified claims without sourcing are at 200+ recs Sympthsical Tuesday #23
Worst Level Of The Worst Immersive Video Game Ever MayReasonRule Tuesday #32
Believe Harris, Biden, etc., would request a recount if they thought there were evidence. Apparently, they don't. Silent Type Tuesday #2
Yea i hear that. That's the killer part for me. bluestarone Tuesday #6
K&R Think. Again. Tuesday #3
I wouldn't be against it. Elessar Zappa Tuesday #4
Harris has made her choice- there will be no recounts. Nt Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #5
I hear you. bluestarone Tuesday #7
If democracy is to survive, it will take the real life suffering and consequences of fascism to turn the tide Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #20
I feel if what your saying is true, then i'm afraid it's gonna take Americans willing to do exactly what bluestarone Tuesday #21
Agree, but my mistake was that the abortion issue would be sufficient to prompt allegorical oracle Tuesday #37
The abortion issue show just how ill informed or misinformed the electorate is Fiendish Thingy Tuesday #40
It's for the sake of the country we don't scream "rigged!" Sympthsical Tuesday #24
trump is crazy LiberaBlueDem Tuesday #45
Recounts rarely change election results. Very rarely.. MineralMan Tuesday #8
I get that. My thing is putting a solid end to (they cheated) bluestarone Tuesday #10
actually RJ_MacReady Tuesday #17
Maybe not, but it could hardly hurt, given whathehell Yesterday #52
Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 - - - - - ConcernedCitizen1776 Tuesday #9
I know, but the numbers are not adding up. bluestarone Tuesday #13
What's your point in posting this? Wiz Imp Tuesday #43
As much as it hurts Macrophylla Tuesday #11
I'll tell you what's wrong... lame54 Tuesday #12
Well i STILL would donate IF they were to request recount! bluestarone Tuesday #14
There are statutory requirements for recounts Abnredleg Tuesday #16
Thank you... lame54 Tuesday #28
Yea, what assholes. They spent their money trying to win, why didn't they save money for performative tritsofme Tuesday #19
Recounts are all part of... lame54 Tuesday #25
Not when you lose by the margins Harris did. Then it's just over. tritsofme Tuesday #26
And, of course, that's known before the final tally lame54 Tuesday #27
Not sure how that is relevant with margins being what they are. tritsofme Tuesday #30
There should be a recount fund before the election... lame54 Tuesday #31
The outcome is fully known. It's just you who refuses to see. tritsofme Tuesday #33
We're talking past each other... lame54 Tuesday #34
Harris would have had no problem raising money for a recount fund if one had been required. tritsofme Tuesday #38
Disagree... lame54 Tuesday #39
Raising money for something that might be totally unnecessary seems to fit that bill. tritsofme Tuesday #41
Still disagreeing lame54 Tuesday #42
Then everyone would be blaming them for sitting on money that they could have spent in the last week of the campaign MichMan Tuesday #46
I keep getting emails from Harris asking for money. Liberal In Texas Tuesday #15
Races where a recount is actually in play and retiring the debt TheKentuckian Tuesday #36
I think they are in debt because they spent all of the huge amount of money they raised on the election Meowmee Tuesday #47
She is simply not going scam her supporters of out millions of dollars to placate election deniers on the internet tritsofme Tuesday #18
It's fucking over already. She's NEVER going to do that, okay? Maru Kitteh Tuesday #22
If Harris could assemble a team of actual credentialed computor experts that could examine flashman13 Tuesday #29
No one's screaming at you. We all know our country is at stake. But... Hekate Tuesday #35
You see, that's what kills me. She KNOWS more than Anybody because she is a prosecutor. bluestarone Tuesday #44
I believe there should be a recount and forensic investigation Meowmee Tuesday #48
I heard the expert say that Nevada and Arizona had the biggest discrepancies. kentuck Tuesday #49
Recounts are fine. Conspiracy theories are not fine. D23MIURG23 Yesterday #50
I'm with you. Hard to believe trump won all the swing states. I'd donate. brush Yesterday #51
Bluestarone dlilafae Yesterday #53
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