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garybeck

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52. i read his article

Thu Nov 21, 2024, 02:02 PM

Nov 2024

it has as many holes as Spoonamore's. he's not an expert and he throws out blanket statements that are incorrect. we have no reason to think Spoonamore is a hoax or to call him one, just because this guy thinks it's so.

I find his OP, especially the title of it, to be inappropriate.

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Please don't spread Spoonamore hoax [View all] creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 OP

easy to see why people are so susceptible to such claims Skittles Nov 2024 #1

Yes. A great many people choose what they believe by creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #2

repukes are easily manipulated Skittles Nov 2024 #4

And... wryter2000 Nov 2024 #5

Not that easy to inquire creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #7

problem is, none of it would make any difference Skittles Nov 2024 #8

Absolutely! And lies work! creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #10

Considering the Pennsylvania senator vote was jimfields33 Nov 2024 #126

He's attacking Harris now Sympthsical Nov 2024 #3

This happened in Florida Miami Blue Nov 2024 #6

Yep. Lots of voter suppression going on creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #9

+1. Voter suppression is the real issue, radius777 Nov 2024 #17

Exactly! creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #18

It was actually the PA Supreme Court SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2024 #74

You can count the ballots eleventy trillion times and TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #82

I'll believe Spoon when Biden, Harris, etc., say vote result appear bogus. Silent Type Nov 2024 #11

I'll believe that if they have evidence. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #12

How could our side MFM008 Nov 2024 #13

By having the media doubt our future claims creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #15

Yes, by all means, let's take republicon's word for everything. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2024 #14

I'd be glad to look at any evidence you have. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #16

I'm taking the words of Democrats here. carpetbagger Nov 2024 #24

Who is taking the Republicans word for anything? TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #89

I'm not taking Republican word for anything creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #98

Computer security expert not just some guy. Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #19

No reason to recognize the credentials creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #20

I'm not sure he's an actual computer security expert -- he calls himself a "computer security expert." LauraInLA Nov 2024 #22

there's thousands of those in this country stopdiggin Nov 2024 #29

See post #25...there are more of them questionseverything Nov 2024 #39

not really. did read the post. stopdiggin Nov 2024 #44

That has no evidence anything happened. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #55

I don't know what to think anymore Mountain Mule Nov 2024 #21

Sorry but your critique of Spoonamore has as many holes as his letter. garybeck Nov 2024 #23

Fewer old machines around. But Spoonamore claims a complete count. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #50

Spoonamore isn't the only computer expert calling for a recount. There is also the group of computer security experts pnwmom Nov 2024 #25

Yes thank you. This article calling spoon a hoax is not objective. garybeck Nov 2024 #26

What makes you say that? creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #28

see my post, i think it is #23, but to answer your questions garybeck Nov 2024 #46

That doesn't cover the bullet ballot lie creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #49

no. no. no. garybeck Nov 2024 #51

The "bullet ballot" stuff is definitely a lie creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #53

He didn't necessarily lie questionseverything Nov 2024 #77

Not sure what you are talking about creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #95

The early results could of shown that difference and then as more results were included the difference disappeared questionseverything Nov 2024 #104

Doesn't matter when the votes arrived creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #110

I don't think you are paying attention to what I'm saying creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #94

Ask the Chinese and the nsa, every freaking back door is an opening questionseverything Nov 2024 #105

Even if you are Chines or NSA creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #109

Ok you are goofing now, talking physical back doors lol questionseverything Nov 2024 #114

Nobody knows how many votes there are until its over. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #115

Improper? osteopath6 Nov 2024 #107

Thank you for this! Mountain Mule Nov 2024 #27

Please don't blame them. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #32

I was quite worried about this creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #31

All the evidence you need is that the breaches did occur. They had the opportunity. And the remedy is simple. pnwmom Nov 2024 #34

Thank You DET Nov 2024 #35

They spent 4 years training us to defend the 2020 election, then all elections -- even though pnwmom Nov 2024 #36

If its obvious creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #58

They would have to find a way get the soltware into the machines. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #54

The breaches prove they could have found a way to reprogram. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #57

The breaches themselves show they had the opportunity to reprogram. nt pnwmom Nov 2024 #62

They also show they got caught creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #64

So? pnwmom Nov 2024 #65

So? creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #68

I'm not saying the election WAS fixed. I'm saying there's enough evidence to show it COULD HAVE BEEN FIXED. pnwmom Nov 2024 #73

Eight machines would not have been enough to fix the election. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #96

With the information gained in the breaches, they could have gone on to hack many more machines pnwmom Nov 2024 #103

But you would have to break in to the others. Not easy. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #111

You don't know that. That's the point. It's very possible that the information gained in the breaches pnwmom Nov 2024 #112

If you don't have physical access creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #117

That's what they were saying BEFORE the breaches were discovered in 2022. nt pnwmom Nov 2024 #119

Partial hand recount sounds like a GREAT idea! ElementaryPenguin Nov 2024 #72

There are more than this Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #30

I've seen demonstations of machines being hacked in minutes creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #33

They don't need physical access to the machines on the day of the election. They could have tampered with pnwmom Nov 2024 #37

yes. but even moreso, it's the memory cards. they are removed and repgrogrammed every election. n/t garybeck Nov 2024 #47

By people with physical access. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #63

Yes by insiders either from the machine company or the election office questionseverything Nov 2024 #76

Not that easy because the machines are tested over and over. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #97

Post # 51 questionseverything Nov 2024 #106

We did cover this before, but I still disagree creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #108

Every thing you said after the second sentence was incorrect, you are mixing me up with some one else questionseverything Nov 2024 #113

You referred me to post 51 creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #118

You assume a lot about a lot of things questionseverything Nov 2024 #120

They could not have coded months before creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #59

What makes you think that? nt pnwmom Nov 2024 #61

Because recoding requires access creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #67

I really wish you knew what you were talking about nbsmom Nov 2024 #84

They are not supposed to be connected. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #85

I don't care what kind of machine it is creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #99

In this day of technology Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #38

I think it's interesting that the state of WA, which has only mail in ballots, kept under lock, pnwmom Nov 2024 #48

Interesting creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #70

I think if its going to be alleged there needs to be some evidence creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #60

That's a given... Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #83

I kind of doubt it creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #86

With all due respect, Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #92

Ask you daughter creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #93

Why don't you ask the Chinese hackers who have infiltrated questionseverything Nov 2024 #121

The NSA computers were networked. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #122

So are the report pages of every sos in the country questionseverything Nov 2024 #123

The report pages are not linked to the machines. creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #124

You pretending you don't understand how a rig could be accomplished doesn't mean you are correct questionseverything Nov 2024 #125

I can't find it. What is her name? creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #127

I just can't understand how Trump won North Carolina JanMichael Nov 2024 #40

Vote spitting is common in NC Abnredleg Nov 2024 #41

I'm aware of that thank you. This wasn't a normal election. JanMichael Nov 2024 #42

But yet the results are typical for NC Abnredleg Nov 2024 #43

There's more ScratchCat Nov 2024 #66

I'd be all for a movement to have that every time creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #71

It's illegal to hand count ballots in Florida questionseverything Nov 2024 #87

Please summarize your debunking in the OP. RandomNumbers Nov 2024 #45

i read his article garybeck Nov 2024 #52

His magic bullet ballot thing was definitely a lie, that's not in dispute. tritsofme Nov 2024 #56

Its very appropriate creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #100

I had to use a link creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #69

Spoonamore is a republican. DiamondShark Nov 2024 #75

Wondering why someone who's been on DU since 2003 has no recollection of the crap GOP has been pulling since HAVA nbsmom Nov 2024 #78

The last thing election deniers care about is democracy iemanja Nov 2024 #80

I'm all for fighting. I'm opposed to flailing. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #90

Yes, If Trump lost he would say it was fixed creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #101

I gave the reasons its a hoax creeksneakers2 Nov 2024 #91

Sadly, our side doesn't engage in less iemanja Nov 2024 #79

that's what you call a "hoax"? stillcool Nov 2024 #81

Just playing with syllables here- marybourg Nov 2024 #88

Thank you osteopath6 Nov 2024 #102

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