General Discussion

[Much of this I have already posted on another thread.]

Why are you so convinced that what Spoonamore is saying is part of some sort of hoax? Is it really that hard to imagine that Pumpkin Spice Palpatine wasn’t telling on himself when he was saying that “he had all the votes”? Does it strain credulity to imagine that Elon might have figured out a way to leverage the Dominion Systems software (gained through the various election investigations and the CyberNinjas”investigation” of the results in Arizona following the 2020 election?)

The recent discussion with Stephen Spoonamore on Thom Hartmann unleashed a load of Deja vu for me.

In 2002, Spoonamore was one of the people who investigated the malfeasance that flipped the results of the Max Cleland/Saxby Chambliss election (Max Cleland was initially reluctant to accept his help, but later admitted that Spoonamore had been right all along.)

In 2004, he was part of the team that investigated the man in the middle exploit that resulted in Kerry’s loss in Ohio.

In other words, this guy knows when people are doing funky things with people’s votes. If what he’s saying isn’t true and that he’s pulling numbers out of thin air, then why did Musk flag Spoonamore’s account on Twitter/X after his AMA on Reddit?

Spoonamore himself is saying his suspicions were raised because Musk held a “lottery” to grab addresses from would-be voters. Then on Election Day, the bomb threats at primarily Dem precincts in PA. Ultimately, he’s really only saying he’s seeing flags, and that the only way to know for sure is to do hand counts in the two precincts with outlier results. If those track with the tabulated totals, then he’s wrong.

But the thing is, Spoonamore is not the only one. There’s a different group of election and cybersecurity officials (part of the Free Speech for People group) who have also shared a letter with VP Harris. And I have also seen some analysis done of both the Arizona and North Carolina races by different data professionals. All of them are saying, “the math ain’t mathing.”

Finally, and this is what tips it for me, is that Harris herself wrote about how vulnerable our elections are (see Chapter Nine in “The Truths We Hold”).

I don’t pretend to know anyone’s background or impugn anyone’s expertise. It looks like you’ve been a part of the DU community for a long time.

But as others have pointed out on this thread, there is a lot at stake, and it’s important that we do everything we can to fight to save our democracy. After all, as Madam Vice President likes to say, “When we fight, we win.”