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J_William_Ryan

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35. "Our message was not the problem. Our current society is the problem."

Tue Dec 3, 2024, 01:28 AM

Dec 3

Spot on.

A society of fear, ignorance, and stupidity – a post-truth America where facts are the enemy and the political process is hobbled by the firehose of rightwing disinformation and lies.

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There was nothing wrong with the Democratic message [View all] Quiet Em Dec 2 OP

Our message is fine yes. Irish_Dem Dec 2 #1

Absolutely. Quiet Em Dec 2 #2

Post removed Post removed Dec 2 #31

None of this means anything if the PutinGOP is cheating to win. Irish_Dem Dec 3 #39

Didn't even spell the Vice President's name correctly, Quiet Em Dec 3 #45

You seem to use the word "woke" in a derogatory way Quiet Em Dec 3 #47

Our message can always be improved... SnoopDog Dec 2 #3

We have no media for the Democratic Party,. That is why we lost. rich7862 Dec 2 #26

Seems Self-Contradicting ProfessorGAC Dec 2 #4

Half of society is cheering on the cruelty and boorish behavior Quiet Em Dec 2 #5

Then We Disagree ProfessorGAC Dec 2 #7

Just a quick glance at any election comments on social media Quiet Em Dec 2 #9

That's Not Remotely Quantitative ProfessorGAC Dec 2 #10

OK, then explain to me how running against, DEI, transgender people, women being treated as Quiet Em Dec 2 #11

Well said BaronChocula Dec 2 #18

Well, markodochartaigh Dec 2 #17

The war on reality lame54 Dec 2 #6

The war on reality jfz9580m Dec 3 #40

Real Wage Index is lowest in 70 years so telling some one the economy is great while ... uponit7771 Dec 2 #8

I know Reddit doesn't let you hot link images BumRushDaShow Dec 2 #13

I heard Harris focus on the economy, including increasing taxes on the wealthy. yardwork Dec 2 #14

It's hard to craft a winning message when you're the party in power. Self Esteem Dec 2 #19

Yep, their message now should be to hold Trump to a higher economic standard then they had knowing uponit7771 Dec 3 #50

Addressing the high price of groceries could of been as simple as questionseverything Dec 3 #55

Sure. But again, when you're the party in power, the next logical question is the same... Self Esteem Dec 3 #56

She should of pushed the idea while campaigning questionseverything Dec 3 #57

Have you learned nothing from our media?. We're supposed to blame ourselves when assholes vote for an asshole. hay rick Dec 2 #12

Hmmm disagree Abstractartist Dec 2 #15

I disagree...you can't reach ingrained racist sexist ppl, rich and poor alike that will never vote for a WOC, or any woman PortTack Dec 2 #16

Harris did worse among minorities than both Biden and Hillary. Self Esteem Dec 2 #20

So, less Black and Hispanic voters voted for a woman of color. Justice matters. Dec 2 #29

I think this will be an election where a lot of people cut off their noses to spite their face. Self Esteem Dec 3 #49

Hold on. No one requested actual facts. Jk23 Dec 3 #52

We need to concentrate on the swing states questionseverything Dec 3 #54

This is probably LilElf70 Dec 2 #21

I had lots of repubs say, " he didn't do anything wrong or Biden would of put him in jail " questionseverything Dec 3 #53

Not JUST that Quanta Dec 2 #22

The sickness can only be cured by a specific message and policies ColinC Dec 2 #23

Right, let's keep it up iemanja Dec 2 #24

100 percent correct karin_sj Dec 2 #25

Wrong IMO Beakybird Dec 2 #27

Somehow I don't think our takeaway (well, if we actually want to win elections) should be 'the voters suck!' nt kelly1mm Dec 2 #28

Agreed. Six117 Dec 2 #30

Not "half the country." A huge number of people never bothered to vote. valleyrogue Dec 2 #33

IMO Cosmocat Dec 3 #36

Kamala Harris ran a flawless campaign. valleyrogue Dec 2 #32

If the campaign was flawless then she could not have won under any circumstances Shrek Dec 3 #43

Correct. Blaming, creating Democrats as fictional enemies. The key is "establishment." Only FDR isn't establishment, betsuni Dec 2 #34

"Our message was not the problem. Our current society is the problem." J_William_Ryan Dec 3 #35

This is the result of decades of continuous.. MaeScott Dec 3 #37

THANK YOU for posting. Jit423 Dec 3 #38

Stupid and wilfully ignorant people are the problem. Emile Dec 3 #41

You can only take that argument so far. Asa13 Dec 3 #42

Go on offense ThePartyThatListens Dec 3 #44

The 3 reasons that the Dems lost videohead5 Dec 3 #46

#4, 5, and 6 - racists, misogynists, and idiots RandomNumbers Dec 3 #58

Well, clearly they didn't buy what we were selling. alarimer Dec 3 #48

There is a problem with our message standingtall Dec 3 #51

Yes there was. dawg Dec 3 #59