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Retrograde

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19. Speak for yourself
Wed Dec 4, 2024, 05:56 PM
Dec 4

I have trouble understanding why the people of any country continue to support a hereditary monarchy, in which one person by accident of birth is considered to be superior and worthy of near-worship while the rest of the population struggles to get by. (Why, yes - I just finished Q: A Voyage Around The Queen, by Craig Brown).

Another point that many of the "let's join up with Canada" enthusiasts overlook is that a large part of the US was never British territory. Much of the lower midwest was colonized by the French and Spanish, the southwest, Texas, and California by the Spanish. The Ohio Valley was controlled by the British, but they forbade Americans from settling there (or tried to - a great What If? is whether the British could effectively unite the Native Americans under Tecumseh or someone else to keep the US penned east of the Appalachians). We learn about Manifest Destiny and Westward Expansion in school from an East Coast perspective, but IMHO this neglects the millions of people who were there at the time. So let's stop trying to wishful-think our way into some Anglo-American super country in North America and start working on trying to save what we have.

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California and Canada would form a union before Canada would even think of joining Alabama or Texas. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 4 #1
Yes, that idea's been floated, too. TrollBuster9090 Dec 4 #2
You left out my state Washington. We could be Baja British Columbia. Ping Tung Dec 4 #6
GIANT FACEPALM! TrollBuster9090 Dec 4 #12
I'd love to see Mexico included JoseBalow Dec 4 #20
Well, six blue states, three purple, and one red. haele Dec 4 #3
And then there's Quebec Retrograde Dec 4 #10
The monarchy would not be a deal breaker. Disaffected Dec 4 #13
Speak for yourself Retrograde Dec 4 #19
Yeah, like Canadians are going to love giving up their healthcare ThoughtCriminal Dec 4 #4
Free/low cost education too. Irish_Dem Dec 4 #5
For the historians out there, did Canada actually participate in burning down the White House in 1812? PeaceWave Dec 4 #7
IRC, Canada was a group of different colonies at the time Retrograde Dec 4 #11
Yes.. and proud of it. 😊 Aaeia Dec 4 #14
I can picture it now... We start an actual war with Canada and Mexico. IcyPeas Dec 4 #8
That would be one state with a land mass larger than the other 50 combined. nt doc03 Dec 4 #9
If Canada agreed (which it won't) to join the US, Disaffected Dec 4 #15
Close to the border DownriverDem Dec 4 #16
Canadian Aaeia Dec 4 #17
Aren't they part of NATO? Dem4life1234 Dec 4 #18
It will never happen because the RW knows they are all ready "gerrymander" with strong democratic leanings. usaf-vet Dec 4 #21
Canada is a completely successful nation all on its own with much better social programs... Hekate Dec 4 #22
The GOP Congress would never approve admitting any part of Canada to the union if they begged, TomSlick Dec 4 #23
Trumps demented with signs of dementia. BradBo Dec 4 #24
Why on earth would Canadians want to be stuck with us? Hassler Dec 4 #25
Trump will try to make them a territory rather than state. No representation, just revenue. 33taw Dec 4 #26
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