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Celerity

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Thu Dec 5, 2024, 07:10 AM Dec 5

President AOC? Democrats Need Star Power to Win in 2028 [View all]



A riveting messenger, whether that’s a rising political star or charismatic outsider—paging Mark Cuban!—could help the party break through in an increasingly fragmented media environment.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/aoc-mark-cuban-democrats-2028

https://archive.ph/7EwVw



The election autopsy industry is thriving. Democrats and pundits are arguing over whether Kamala Harris should have appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast; who deserves blame for losing Pennsylvania; and how Harris could have definitively distanced herself from President Joe Biden. All worthy debates. And they all miss an enormous lesson to be learned for 2028: The Democrats need their own demagogue. A good kind of demagogue, of course—not the Donald Trump kind who stokes racist, sexist, anti-government rage as a campaign tactic. And yes, I’m twisting the definition of demagogue just a bit. But hear me out: Trump, twice now, has demonstrated the importance of choosing a compelling character as your party’s nominee. Yes, the substance of what that nominee is selling matters. But being able to generate attention in an ever-more-fragmented media world and reaching the crucial, growing population of low-information voters matters more all the time. That’s something Trump, a 78-year-old creature of old media, grasped in 2024.

Harris had an intriguing biography to tell—but she generally shied away from telling it. She was a pretty good speaker at rallies and an underwhelming presence in interviews. The joy Harris generated in the weeks after she suddenly replaced Biden atop the ticket, one of her advisers told me at the time, was more a product of Democratic voter relief that Biden was out than of love for Harris as his successor. Maybe, given the short runway and economic headwinds, Harris could have been as thrilling as Taylor Swift and she still would have lost. Yet next time around, assuming the country is still holding elections in four years, star power should be one priority for party officials and Democratic primary voters. “But it isn’t just that Trump is a charismatic entertainer. I think it’s even more sophisticated than that,” says Ashley Etienne, who has been a top communications aide to the vice president as well as to then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. “He’s one of the most effective communicators and strategists in the business.” She points to a contentious—yet captivating—2020 interview with Lesley Stahl, in which Trump blasted the media as “corrupt” and “fake” and accused the 60 Minutes anchor of having “discredited yourself,” part of Trump’s preemptive push to undermine the credibility of mainstream reporting about him. “I wouldn’t use his ‘very stable genius,’” Etienne says, “but it’s kind of genius.”

So who among the early likely contenders might be capable of combining magnetism with Machiavellian instincts? Someone who can connect with working-class voters as well as fire up a roomful of big-money donors? Josh Shapiro delivers a good stump speech, but he’s relatively untested in other formats, having only been governor of Pennsylvania for two years. Wes Moore, in Maryland, is promising, but even less experienced. Gretchen Whitmer has nearly six years under her belt as Michigan’s governor, plus a cool nickname. Mallory McMorrow is quick on her feet, but a relatively obscure Michigan state senator. Pete Buttigieg is masterful in cable news face-offs, but less captivating in big rooms. Governor Andy Beshear has twice demonstrated the ability to win in red-state Kentucky, but it’s unclear whether his low-key charm could motivate a larger retail audience. California governor Gavin Newsom is a proven big-market commodity but isn’t exactly a man of the people.

Or, looking outside the conventional political realm, Mark Cuban greatly elevated his Democratic profile this year on behalf of Harris’s campaign and is unafraid to mix it up with everyone from Rogan to Jon Stewart. Cuban also has the history that comes closest to Trump’s: a wealthy, pugnacious businessman who became famous to a non-politics crowd by starring on a TV show. Oh, and George Clooney demonstrated a cold-blooded talent for seizing the moment when he undercut a vulnerable Biden with a blunt New York Times op-ed. Then there’s New York congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Inside-the-Beltway types tend to dismiss her as having peaked in 2020. But Ocasio-Cortez, more than any other young Democrat right now, is a brand. She has a gift for social media, with more than 8 million followers on Instagram and 1 million on TikTok, and a talent for generating polarizing reactions. The second quality is highly useful in the current and foreseeable information age.

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No, no, hell no.... getagrip_already Dec 5 #1
propals? Celerity Dec 5 #2
Loyal opposition to the point of being rabid getagrip_already Dec 5 #5
Disagree, although I think 2028 is too soon for her. Celerity Dec 5 #6
So do you think a centrist would be better? Emile Dec 5 #16
I think a team player is a basic requirement getagrip_already Dec 5 #39
So do you feel the centrist is extremist too? Emile Dec 5 #41
Not by definition, but... getagrip_already Dec 5 #44
Some say centrists done more to hurt this presidency. Emile Dec 5 #48
And im not supporting them for potus either..... getagrip_already Dec 5 #57
+10,000 BeerBarrelPolka Dec 5 #21
AOC is left politically of VP Harris and the veep didn't fare well i '24 so I doubt that... brush Dec 5 #74
Great candidate ultimately, but not her time yet. Maybe 2036 or 2040 Bernardo de La Paz Dec 5 #3
agree Celerity Dec 5 #8
3rd female candidate in 12 years bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #4
yes, 2028 is too soon for AOC, and I also agree that (unfortunately) we should not tempt fate and run another female now Celerity Dec 5 #9
Trump won because of left wingers. I guess cause so many people didnt actually see Harris as left wing ColinC Dec 5 #14
Oh God no DeepWinter Dec 5 #7
Pick someone from the Midwest JHB Dec 5 #10
"If the country is still holding elections in four years" DeeDeeNY Dec 5 #11
That line stood out 0rganism Dec 5 #13
It's one thing to unseat an incumbent in a safe district and then hold it. Jedi Guy Dec 5 #12
C'mon.... Happy Hoosier Dec 5 #15
RWers were pushing this right after the election. That tells Nixie Dec 5 #17
LWers were ecstatic when it looked like Trump would get the nom ColinC Dec 5 #18
But we've seen the election results for almost 10 years now. Nixie Dec 5 #72
Take no chances in 28 SocialDemocrat61 Dec 5 #19
Gavin fits that criteria Polybius Dec 7 #85
No. Too polarizing alarimer Dec 5 #20
Jeff Jackson, newly elected AG for North Carolina. A HERETIC I AM Dec 5 #22
If she can get a resonant message out relentlessly ibegurpard Dec 5 #23
Democrats should stop trying to get the first woman/liberal/LGBTQ elected president dalton99a Dec 5 #24
They can do both, you know! Lunabell Dec 5 #27
It's not about star power! Lunabell Dec 5 #25
+2 Emile Dec 5 #43
Dismissing charisma as an element of electoral success is naive. maxsolomon Dec 5 #81
Clooney? What newdeal2 Dec 5 #26
George Clooney is good looking but not all that smart. milestogo Dec 5 #47
Not born in the US as far as I know newdeal2 Dec 5 #63
You're right. milestogo Dec 5 #69
Oh, jeez. Scrivener7 Dec 5 #28
Exactly. See if she can win a state wide election in NY like Governor or Senator, and if she can't do that, then forget JohnSJ Dec 5 #33
See if she can win a state wide election in NY, and if she can't do that, then forget it. JohnSJ Dec 5 #29
This whole article could be called picking the 2028 candidate based on 2024 karynnj Dec 5 #30
2020 is looking like the outlier DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 5 #55
There are not enough points to say either was the outlier karynnj Dec 7 #84
I like her; she's smart and doesn't take crap, BUT Ocelot II Dec 5 #31
+1. Sad truth dalton99a Dec 5 #34
A generic white guy SocialDemocrat61 Dec 5 #38
Maybe, but that might be what we're stuck with Ocelot II Dec 5 #54
Very true SocialDemocrat61 Dec 5 #64
As much as I like her I don't see her as President. Dave Bowman Dec 5 #32
Yeah she'll get the bro vote... Historic NY Dec 5 #35
I like how much AOC has matured and respect her voice... Self Esteem Dec 5 #36
Her own people will not support her. They vote against their own interests -- I have mine, you climb up the ladder! akbacchus_BC Dec 5 #40
Am at a loss for words. AOC is a straight shooter but why you want to get another loss regarding a female akbacchus_BC Dec 5 #37
Absolutely not. This is just "wishful thinking" on the part of the author. Oopsie Daisy Dec 5 #42
I look forward to voting for her! -misanthroptimist Dec 5 #45
I would vote for her too. Emile Dec 5 #50
Pete Buttigieg is our real star, as far as I'm concerned. milestogo Dec 5 #46
He is, but "brilliant" and $2 will get you a coffee at Starbucks these days. Ocelot II Dec 5 #56
Its really a shame. milestogo Dec 5 #70
I'm sure her loud advocacy for defunding the police not comradebillyboy Dec 5 #49
You are correct!! We need politicians and leaders who are thoughtful and introspective and who look at the big picture * Oopsie Daisy Dec 5 #82
I will support Kamala Harris in 2028 if she runs Redleg Dec 5 #51
US voters just demonstrated that they will not vote for a woman for president if a white male is running. Lonestarblue Dec 5 #52
While I may not have a problem with Sundance1220 Dec 5 #53
I think Senator would be a good next step for AOC. jalan48 Dec 5 #58
I like AOC but currently, there is too much misogynistic backlash for any women, no matter how qualified, dlk Dec 5 #59
So, youre thinking we're going to have elections in 2028? That is so far in the distant future, we kinda have some Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 5 #60
We clearly never want to win again. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 5 #61
It's funny, I think that "centrist" Democrats Bettie Dec 5 #62
Based on just the responses here sarisataka Dec 5 #65
Denocrats should not nominate a minority because of a great convention speech like AOC's or Warnock's. usonian Dec 5 #66
God, please make it stop... Blue_Tires Dec 5 #67
Is Vanity Fair on drugs? Blue_Tires Dec 5 #68
2 very qualified women were shut down WhiteTara Dec 5 #71
Yeah, flyover whites will vote for a brown woman for sure this time, right? Iggo Dec 5 #73
Democrats need Hope and Change once again, no matter the candidate andym Dec 5 #75
Yes, please! intheflow Dec 5 #76
So you think there will be "elections"? ramedy Dec 5 #77
We could have went with Bloomberg four years ago. njhoneybadger Dec 5 #78
He was great as Mayor Polybius Dec 7 #86
Bloomberg ran and governed as a Republican SocialDemocrat61 Dec 7 #87
Great idea if you want to guarantee a loss. MineralMan Dec 5 #79
Who wants to start a Draft Bruce Springsteen movement? Cowpunk Dec 5 #80
Fact of the matter is women are more willing to vote for a man, than a man is willing to vote for a woman. LoveSucky Dec 5 #83
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