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Lonestarblue

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52. US voters just demonstrated that they will not vote for a woman for president if a white male is running.

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 10:02 AM

Dec 5

Perhaps things will change in four years, but I think they will be even worse. We now live in a post-truth country where Trump and his mouthpieces determine what is fact and what is not. The media is already kowtowing to him. Once installed as president, I doubt any of what we think of as mainstream media will have the courage to report accurately on his actions and lies. During Trump’s first term, the Washington Post compiled a running tally of his lies, over 30,000. They will not do that again because Bezos and his Fox stooge Will Lewis will do nothing but praise Trump’s every move. And given the extreme right-wing bias of hate radio, podcasts, and internet news, I think even more people will be led to believe that whatever Trump says is the truth.

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President AOC? Democrats Need Star Power to Win in 2028 [View all] Celerity Dec 5 OP

No, no, hell no.... getagrip_already Dec 5 #1

propals? Celerity Dec 5 #2

Loyal opposition to the point of being rabid getagrip_already Dec 5 #5

Disagree, although I think 2028 is too soon for her. Celerity Dec 5 #6

So do you think a centrist would be better? Emile Dec 5 #16

I think a team player is a basic requirement getagrip_already Dec 5 #39

So do you feel the centrist is extremist too? Emile Dec 5 #41

Not by definition, but... getagrip_already Dec 5 #44

Some say centrists done more to hurt this presidency. Emile Dec 5 #48

And im not supporting them for potus either..... getagrip_already Dec 5 #57

+10,000 BeerBarrelPolka Dec 5 #21

AOC is left politically of VP Harris and the veep didn't fare well i '24 so I doubt that... brush Dec 5 #74

Great candidate ultimately, but not her time yet. Maybe 2036 or 2040 Bernardo de La Paz Dec 5 #3

agree Celerity Dec 5 #8

3rd female candidate in 12 years bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #4

yes, 2028 is too soon for AOC, and I also agree that (unfortunately) we should not tempt fate and run another female now Celerity Dec 5 #9

Trump won because of left wingers. I guess cause so many people didnt actually see Harris as left wing ColinC Dec 5 #14

Oh God no DeepWinter Dec 5 #7

Pick someone from the Midwest JHB Dec 5 #10

"If the country is still holding elections in four years" DeeDeeNY Dec 5 #11

That line stood out 0rganism Dec 5 #13

It's one thing to unseat an incumbent in a safe district and then hold it. Jedi Guy Dec 5 #12

C'mon.... Happy Hoosier Dec 5 #15

RWers were pushing this right after the election. That tells Nixie Dec 5 #17

LWers were ecstatic when it looked like Trump would get the nom ColinC Dec 5 #18

But we've seen the election results for almost 10 years now. Nixie Dec 5 #72

Take no chances in 28 SocialDemocrat61 Dec 5 #19

Gavin fits that criteria Polybius Dec 7 #85

No. Too polarizing alarimer Dec 5 #20

Jeff Jackson, newly elected AG for North Carolina. A HERETIC I AM Dec 5 #22

If she can get a resonant message out relentlessly ibegurpard Dec 5 #23

Democrats should stop trying to get the first woman/liberal/LGBTQ elected president dalton99a Dec 5 #24

They can do both, you know! Lunabell Dec 5 #27

It's not about star power! Lunabell Dec 5 #25

+2 Emile Dec 5 #43

Dismissing charisma as an element of electoral success is naive. maxsolomon Dec 5 #81

Clooney? What newdeal2 Dec 5 #26

George Clooney is good looking but not all that smart. milestogo Dec 5 #47

Not born in the US as far as I know newdeal2 Dec 5 #63

You're right. milestogo Dec 5 #69

Oh, jeez. Scrivener7 Dec 5 #28

Exactly. See if she can win a state wide election in NY like Governor or Senator, and if she can't do that, then forget JohnSJ Dec 5 #33

See if she can win a state wide election in NY, and if she can't do that, then forget it. JohnSJ Dec 5 #29

This whole article could be called picking the 2028 candidate based on 2024 karynnj Dec 5 #30

2020 is looking like the outlier DetroitLegalBeagle Dec 5 #55

There are not enough points to say either was the outlier karynnj Dec 7 #84

I like her; she's smart and doesn't take crap, BUT Ocelot II Dec 5 #31

+1. Sad truth dalton99a Dec 5 #34

A generic white guy SocialDemocrat61 Dec 5 #38

Maybe, but that might be what we're stuck with Ocelot II Dec 5 #54

Very true SocialDemocrat61 Dec 5 #64

As much as I like her I don't see her as President. Dave Bowman Dec 5 #32

Yeah she'll get the bro vote... Historic NY Dec 5 #35

I like how much AOC has matured and respect her voice... Self Esteem Dec 5 #36

Her own people will not support her. They vote against their own interests -- I have mine, you climb up the ladder! akbacchus_BC Dec 5 #40

Am at a loss for words. AOC is a straight shooter but why you want to get another loss regarding a female akbacchus_BC Dec 5 #37

Absolutely not. This is just "wishful thinking" on the part of the author. Oopsie Daisy Dec 5 #42

I look forward to voting for her! -misanthroptimist Dec 5 #45

I would vote for her too. Emile Dec 5 #50

Pete Buttigieg is our real star, as far as I'm concerned. milestogo Dec 5 #46

He is, but "brilliant" and $2 will get you a coffee at Starbucks these days. Ocelot II Dec 5 #56

Its really a shame. milestogo Dec 5 #70

I'm sure her loud advocacy for defunding the police not comradebillyboy Dec 5 #49

You are correct!! We need politicians and leaders who are thoughtful and introspective and who look at the big picture * Oopsie Daisy Dec 5 #82

I will support Kamala Harris in 2028 if she runs Redleg Dec 5 #51

US voters just demonstrated that they will not vote for a woman for president if a white male is running. Lonestarblue Dec 5 #52

While I may not have a problem with Sundance1220 Dec 5 #53

I think Senator would be a good next step for AOC. jalan48 Dec 5 #58

I like AOC but currently, there is too much misogynistic backlash for any women, no matter how qualified, dlk Dec 5 #59

So, youre thinking we're going to have elections in 2028? That is so far in the distant future, we kinda have some Kashkakat v.2.0 Dec 5 #60

We clearly never want to win again. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 5 #61

It's funny, I think that "centrist" Democrats Bettie Dec 5 #62

Based on just the responses here sarisataka Dec 5 #65

Denocrats should not nominate a minority because of a great convention speech like AOC's or Warnock's. usonian Dec 5 #66

God, please make it stop... Blue_Tires Dec 5 #67

Is Vanity Fair on drugs? Blue_Tires Dec 5 #68

2 very qualified women were shut down WhiteTara Dec 5 #71

Yeah, flyover whites will vote for a brown woman for sure this time, right? Iggo Dec 5 #73

Democrats need Hope and Change once again, no matter the candidate andym Dec 5 #75

Yes, please! intheflow Dec 5 #76

So you think there will be "elections"? ramedy Dec 5 #77

We could have went with Bloomberg four years ago. njhoneybadger Dec 5 #78

He was great as Mayor Polybius Dec 7 #86

Bloomberg ran and governed as a Republican SocialDemocrat61 Dec 7 #87

Great idea if you want to guarantee a loss. MineralMan Dec 5 #79

Who wants to start a Draft Bruce Springsteen movement? Cowpunk Dec 5 #80

Fact of the matter is women are more willing to vote for a man, than a man is willing to vote for a woman. LoveSucky Dec 5 #83