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sarisataka

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25. The old philosophical question on morality.

Thu Dec 5, 2024, 06:11 PM

Dec 5

If you encountered Hitler in 1900 with full accurate knowledge of WW2, would you kill the 11-year-old boy you are facing?

Kill a child or let him live, millions of lives depend on your choice.

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To those who believe they have moral authority regarding the murder of United Health's CEO [View all] Mr.WeRP Dec 5 OP

I wonder if this will give pause to all this heady talk Klarkashton Dec 5 #1

People like Musk will just hire a $10 million a year security team. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #7

He already does Algernon Moncrieff Dec 5 #40

Yes but the risk level is going up. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #43

Don't mess with people's money. NEOBuckeye Dec 5 #50

Yes people are finally showing righteous anger and are in agreement about it. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #58

Their wealth is going to become a trap NEOBuckeye Dec 5 #71

Yes they will live in golden cages. Irish_Dem Dec 6 #90

One can certainly hope misanthrope Dec 5 #72

I wonder when pundits say the people wont take it MadameButterfly Dec 6 #86

And he's from South Africa FCS Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #63

Yes he is from one of the BRIC countries, a group trying to bring down the US. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #66

and a lot of "norms" are gone because of Trump PedroXimenez Dec 5 #76

The words "justice for all" hasn't applied to the USA in decades. When that changes we can have a right or wrong yaesu Dec 5 #2

The US has never had a justice system "for all." intheflow Dec 5 #35

Yes but it has never played out in such stark horrific reality. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #44

I don't think it ever has peregrinus Dec 5 #46

Well said. I do think the pitchforks are coming out now. LiberalLoner Dec 5 #3

Maybe the French will loan us their old guillotines. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #5

Robespierre was an edgelord too TheProle Dec 5 #17

Little WD-40 and good as new? Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #64

Yep. French craftsmanship is said to be excellent. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #68

Chickens have come home to roost. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #4

#1 and #5 resonate with me AllyCat Dec 5 #36

Yes. Even if we do not agree with it, we can understand it. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #38

Murder is not justified..... Lovie777 Dec 5 #6

The society you live in (assuming you live in the US) says otherwise Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #9

Would killing Hitler be wrong? Irish_Dem Dec 5 #18

The old philosophical question on morality. sarisataka Dec 5 #25

yes, killing Hilter would be the right thing to do MadameButterfly Dec 6 #85

We are getting to that point. Irish_Dem Dec 6 #89

Yes. But if we want to go there MadameButterfly Dec 8 #94

We don't know how this will play out. Irish_Dem Dec 8 #95

Things were similarly desperat during the Civil War MadameButterfly Dec 9 #96

Yes good point. Same thing in WWII. Irish_Dem Dec 9 #97

I don't like to sound like Trump but this time the enemy is within MadameButterfly Dec 9 #98

Yes I know. Irish_Dem Dec 9 #99

Well, normally, I would agree with you oldmanlynn Dec 5 #34

Then PCHI CEOs should stop uponit7771 Dec 6 #93

As I've said many times ColinC Dec 5 #8

But the point is that the US robber barons kill Americans every day and get away with it. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #19

Well bringing light to the mass murders is certainly worth a lot ColinC Dec 5 #26

It is also now a crime to treat dying women. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #27

Yup ColinC Dec 5 #45

We know how well the justice system works in America. Should CEO's Emile Dec 5 #10

They already have security teams. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #20

If you recall the French Revolution ran out of aristocrats sarisataka Dec 5 #11

Oh I am aware. Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #15

Sadly misplaced acts of violence will not solve healthcare problems. CEOs do not make all sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #12

No, no, no. This cannot be the excuse. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #21

So execution is okay with you because the man didn't defy his board of directors and sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #33

He could have quit. He could have protested. Why does fiduciary duty get higher deference than other's lives? steelyboo Dec 5 #53

He gleefully killed the most vulnerable people for profit and greed. mike_c Dec 5 #79

Good to know that DU 'liberals' now espouse murder as a solution sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #81

No one is promoting it as the solution Mr.WeRP Dec 6 #87

I was advised that is a rightwing talking point! Skittles Dec 5 #57

Oh, I didn't realize that opposing murder was RW. Thanks for sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #62

no, that was told to me Skittles Dec 5 #67

I thought you were done here? Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #82

Sorry, I refuse to become trumpian and support of 2nd Amendment Solutions. Especially in cases like this. Silent Type Dec 5 #13

maybe we should wait and see who killed him and why? nt msongs Dec 5 #14

The crime scene evidence tells us why. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #22

What a novel idea 💡 MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #28

"We the people" decided on 7 November that we don't really care about the rule of law. meadowlander Dec 5 #16

They thought the rule of law was to protect themselves and punish/control their enemies. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #24

At what point does it become self defense? Voltaire2 Dec 5 #23

Well, this wasn't self-defense because UCH will just replace Thompson with AllyCat Dec 5 #42

I mean, they have laws allowing girls and women to bleed out/sepsis and die while in hospitals LizBeth Dec 5 #29

I've been wondering if this will break a taboo of sorts CanonRay Dec 5 #30

Maybe us minions on the left and right will discover... paleotn Dec 5 #32

Same here. n/t R. P. McMurphy Dec 5 #75

Well said. paleotn Dec 5 #31

All I have to say to those people is Demobrat Dec 5 #37

Bravo❗ Duppers Dec 6 #84

Murderous parasites have no empathy and deserve none dalton99a Dec 5 #39

so you are literally OK with executions on the street? Skittles Dec 5 #41

Apparently our justice system thinks it's okay. Emile Dec 5 #47

sorry, I don't remember US being for that Skittles Dec 5 #48

The court justice didn't have any problems with it. Emile Dec 5 #49

so now WE are gun humpers too? Skittles Dec 5 #54

WTF you are calling us gun humpers? Emile Dec 5 #61

done here Skittles Dec 5 #69

How many times do you have to repeat that? Emile Dec 5 #77

They are still posting in this thread despite saying it 3 times now. Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #83

Not only in this thread, but in others too. Emile Dec 6 #88

Where did I say that? Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #51

apparently anyone not comfortable with street executions is exhibiting MORAL AUTHORITY Skittles Dec 5 #55

I think many of the same folks here who made excuses for Garland Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #56

not sure how that POS plays into it Skittles Dec 5 #60

None of this will change their(the rich) perspective of shitting on the people. mymomwasright Dec 5 #52

I'm sure the French aristocrats are laughing at that statement Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #59

I don't discount the possiblity customerserviceguy Dec 5 #65

I have a friend who works for UHC Demobrat Dec 5 #70

That seems highly unlikely Mr.WeRP Dec 6 #92

We don't know what the motive was yet Meowmee Dec 5 #73

That's fiction n/t wryter2000 Dec 5 #74

What? You're against asymmetrical murder? usonian Dec 5 #78

The guy was making $51 million a year and deployed an AI that could replace half his staff. Initech Dec 5 #80

Deny, Defend, Depose is the new "Let them eat cake." Mr.WeRP Dec 6 #91